DUST Search - Jets should have nothing to do with the ground, directly

pegasis prime wrote:

Aran Abbas wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

Aran Abbas wrote:

pegasis prime wrote:

As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy.

I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such.

Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill .

Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory )

It's cute how they're always using a phone.

Some of us are acctuallu busy during the day. I.e. not sitting in our mum's basement scoffing on cheetos whilst feeling ariel buthurt from jets that havent even arrived.

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Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 84	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:37:00 - [1] - Quote They should fight other jets up in the sky and destroy aerial objectives that HELP the mercs on the ground, but they should be too fast moving to reliably hit any ground targets. For the sake of not messing up the balance, leave the ground kills to mercs, ground vehicles, and dropships.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 280	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:42:00 - [2] - Quote Looks like the first QQ/ nerf the jet thread has started...WTF W T F We dont even have jets yet and the blueberries are allready afraid of death from above . Once again WTF Massive fu@#ing face palm.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:44:00 - [3] - Quote +1 pegasis prime. maybe look into the lore and then come back with a reasonable comment.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 85	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:45:00 - [4] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Looks like the first QQ/ nerf the jet thread has started...WTF W T F We dont even have jets yet and the blueberries are allready afraid of death from above . Once again WTF Massive fu@#ing face palm. Your response is due to a - perhaps congenital - mental deficiency, in that you are unable to comprehend that a call for something as-yet-unreleased to be implemented in a manner that does not break an already precarious balance is not actually a call for a nerf of said thing.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 85	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:47:00 - [5] - Quote Wolfica wrote: +1 pegasis prime. maybe look into the lore and then come back with a reasonable comment. The lore would have it that a capital ship can glass an entire map. Roleplay nergasms are secondary to game balance.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:47:00 - [6] - Quote maybe the counter to jets isss?...... the good old fashion swarm launcher
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:49:00 - [7] - Quote I believe they already had the idea and possible future act that we WILL be able to glass a planet from space with a capital ship as discussed at one of the past fan fest
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 86	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:50:00 - [8] - Quote Wolfica wrote: maybe the counter to jets isss?...... the good old fashion swarm launcher You mean that swarm launcher that can be outrun by a LAV? In your roleplay universe are jets significantly slower or faster than LAVs?
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 86	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:51:00 - [9] - Quote Wolfica wrote: I believe they already had the idea and possible future act that we WILL be able to glass a planet from space with a capital ship as discussed at one of the past fan fest I can tell you categorically this won't happen. If you don't understand why, I would ask you to seek professional help.
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 199	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:55:00 - [10] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: Wolfica wrote: +1 pegasis prime. maybe look into the lore and then come back with a reasonable comment. The lore would have it that a capital ship can glass an entire map. Roleplay nergasms are secondary to game balance. Eve Capsuleers will be able to do this one day. Might want to backpedal on the nerd shaming bullshit.

pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 281	Posted - 2013.06.17 10:57:00 - [11] - Quote As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 86	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:00:00 - [12] - Quote Zyrus Amalomyn wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: Wolfica wrote: +1 pegasis prime. maybe look into the lore and then come back with a reasonable comment. The lore would have it that a capital ship can glass an entire map. Roleplay nergasms are secondary to game balance. Eve Capsuleers will be able to do this one day. Might want to backpedal on the nerd shaming bullshit. Professional help. You need it.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 281	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:02:00 - [13] - Quote Lol at the op lol I can still totally see it . B...Bbb.....bbb..but sarge their boming me now .
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 86	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:03:00 - [14] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy. I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:04:00 - [15] - Quote 1) instead of nurfing jets so they are only Air to Air capable why not boost missile speed, that would solve two problems. since missiles need a speed boost. 2) jets are faster then LAV's to answer your question. 3) All information I have gathered is from talking with the thousand plus members in my corp, reading the forums, watching the fan fest videos, and playing and talking to 10 year veterans in my EVE alliance. 4) glassing planets I believe is a backburner project. 5) as to seeking professional help, I reject your reality and substitute my own.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 281	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:06:00 - [16] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy. I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such. Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill . Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory )
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:11:00 - [17] - Quote Wolfica wrote: 1) instead of nurfing jets so they are only Air to Air capable why not boost missile speed, that would solve two problems. since missiles need a speed boost. 2) jets are faster then LAV's to answer your question. 3) All information I have gathered is from talking with the thousand plus members in my corp, reading the forums, watching the fan fest videos, and playing and talking to 10 year veterans in my EVE alliance. 4) glassing planets I believe is a backburner project. 5) as to seeking professional help, I reject your reality and substitute my own. Ah, a coherent response from someone at last! We boost missile speed and not only LAVs but especially HAV and dropship pilots are now are much easier to kill. Breaks our precarious balance completely. Why even start down that road? Glassing planets is one of those ideas devs throw out when they're really REALLY drunk.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:12:00 - [18] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy. I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such. Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill . Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory ) It's cute how they're always using a phone.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 285	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:15:00 - [19] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy. I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such. Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill . Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory ) It's cute how they're always using a phone. Some of us are acctuallu busy during the day. I.e. not sitting in our mum's basement scoffing on cheetos whilst feeling ariel buthurt from jets that havent even arrived.
Tectonious Falcon Phaze O n e 569	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:17:00 - [20] - Quote Did these guys even read the OP?

Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:17:00 - [21] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: pegasis prime wrote: As a hav driver I welcome one of tge provided counters to jets that has been mentiond anti air havs . The op is worried that hell have to watch up as well as I front of him. And I ask the op what balance deatg from above only comes in tge for of flying firebricks know as dropships . I think the op is worried hell get one shot by a jet and not have anti air support lol .keep up the QQ cod boy. I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such. Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill . Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory ) It's cute how they're always using a phone. Some of us are acctuallu busy during the day. I.e. not sitting in our mum's basement scoffing on cheetos whilst feeling ariel buthurt from jets that havent even arrived. Yes, busy with our 'phones' I wish I had a 'phone'...
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 285	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:20:00 - [22] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Did these guys even read the OP? Lol did you? Or are you the ops alt trying to regain so.e cred
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:21:00 - [23] - Quote well its 4:17 AM here... why hate on Cheetos? ehh I got lost after the first comment. what would the objective that the jets try to hold look like/be? just don't think they should be limited by Air to Air combat only
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:21:00 - [24] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Did these guys even read the OP? Lol did you? Or are you the ops alt trying to regain so.e cred You've run out of credit for your 'phone', you say?
Tectonious Falcon Phaze O n e 569	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:21:00 - [25] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Did these guys even read the OP? Lol did you? Or are you the ops alt trying to regain so.e cred Dat stupidity.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 285	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:22:00 - [26] - Quote I only have the vaguest of ideas what it is exactly you regurgitated onto your keyboard. I picked up something about cod boys. Were you alluding to being a cod boy? Your ability to respond coherently would certainly indicate such.[/quote] Lol at op cant reason back when told of specific counter that will be applied so goes for a lame attack at typing skill . Death of thread and request imminent. (Ps im using a phone so yes my typing is choppy but did you know that 87% of the population can understand misstyped txt the other 13% acctually come under the "special" catagory )[/quote] It's cute how they're always using a phone.[/quote] Some of us are acctuallu busy during the day. I.e. not sitting in our mum's basement scoffing on cheetos whilst feeling ariel buthurt from jets that havent even arrived.[/quote] Yes, busy with our 'phones' I wish I had a 'phone'...[/quote] I like to spend my lunchtimes slapping down little whiny cod boy mercs like you , that do nothing but call for unreasonable nerfs that eventually ruin the game.
Tectonious Falcon Phaze O n e 569	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:24:00 - [27] - Quote Holy ****, the OP never even asked anything to be nerfed! He said jets should have a very fast movement speed. One that would make it difficult for the pilots to RELIABLY hit ground targets. If you think that's a nerf, then you should see a doctor.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:24:00 - [28] - Quote Wolfica wrote: well its 4:17 AM here... why hate on Cheetos? ehh I got lost after the first comment. what would the objective that the jets try to hold look like/be? just don't think they should be limited by Air to Air combat only Certainly not limited to just fighting other jets, but consider those rockets that the objectives on the ground fire up to the MCC. Perhaps they could intercept them? That would certainly help the guys on the ground.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:27:00 - [29] - Quote ok. still think missiles should be faster though. but to the bigger question Pegasis why you be hating on Cheetos?
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 87	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:27:00 - [30] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: I like to spend my lunchtimes slapping down little whiny cod boy mercs like you , that do nothing but call for unreasonable nerfs that eventually ruin the game. It's a good thing you have a phone to do this! Otherwise you wouldn't be able to do this!

Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 88	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:31:00 - [31] - Quote Wolfica wrote: ok. still think missiles should be faster though. I felt a great disturbance in the Forums, as if millions of HAV drivers and dropship pilots suddenly cried out in terror and were never silenced.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:32:00 - [32] - Quote you guys are the reason mom and dad got a divorce. no offense to any one who has had/going through a divorce
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 286	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:32:00 - [33] - Quote Wolfica wrote: ok. still think missiles should be faster though. but to the bigger question Pegasis why you be hating on Cheetos? Im not hating I could have said pringles or dorietos just any snack I was thinking of.
Wolfica Planetary Response Organization 50	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:33:00 - [34] - Quote well if LAV's are faster then missles. top speed 106mph base. they missiles are going way to slow
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 12	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:35:00 - [35] - Quote Guys, guys, I want to fly jets and get into badass dogfights and yes I want to strafe the ground.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 286	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:36:00 - [36] - Quote Iv had no problems popping malitia lavs with the starteranti armour fit its all down to poditioning . The logi lavs are the invincible ones and rightly so as they are the only true proto vehicle avalable.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 89	Posted - 2013.06.17 11:39:00 - [37] - Quote Wolfica wrote: well if LAV's are faster then missles. top speed 106mph base. they missiles are going way to slow I'm not a vehicle driver. I'm usually the one with the swarm launcher. But even I think those poor bastards deserve a break, and speeding up swarm would make even me pity them..
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1641	Posted - 2013.06.17 18:49:00 - [38] - Quote Air-to-air will have their own turret types. If I fit an autocannon on my fighter, I'm sure as hell going to be able to do some passes on infantry.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1970	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:22:00 - [39] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: They should fight other jets up in the sky and destroy aerial objectives that HELP the mercs on the ground, but they should be too fast moving to reliably hit any ground targets. For the sake of not messing up the balance, leave the ground kills to mercs, ground vehicles, and dropships. Yeah, what we need are Bomber Dropships. Those are a really good idea.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 166	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:34:00 - [40] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: They should fight other jets up in the sky and destroy aerial objectives that HELP the mercs on the ground, but they should be too fast moving to reliably hit any ground targets. For the sake of not messing up the balance, leave the ground kills to mercs, ground vehicles, and dropships. Napalm

Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1821	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:35:00 - [41] - Quote Target painting, make it happen CCP
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 291	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:35:00 - [42] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: They should fight other jets up in the sky and destroy aerial objectives that HELP the mercs on the ground, but they should be too fast moving to reliably hit any ground targets. For the sake of not messing up the balance, leave the ground kills to mercs, ground vehicles, and dropships. Napalm I love the smell of napalm in the morning
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 199	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:47:00 - [43] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Looks like the first QQ/ nerf the jet thread has started...WTF W T F We dont even have jets yet and the blueberries are allready afraid of death from above . Once again WTF Massive fu@#ing face palm. Thing is if they can push drones up to 3 km a sec in EVE how fast are jets supposed to go?
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1971	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:52:00 - [44] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Target painting, make it happen CCP You wouldn't need that unless we had guided bombs, which I somehow doubt we'll have. Unguided would be fine for Fighters. That way you'll only get kills if you complete the run properly, and you'll have to commit even with AA fire coming up at you, so using them will be risky.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 291	Posted - 2013.06.17 19:59:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Looks like the first QQ/ nerf the jet thread has started...WTF W T F We dont even have jets yet and the blueberries are allready afraid of death from above . Once again WTF Massive fu@#ing face palm. Thing is if they can push drones up to 3 km a sec in EVE how fast are jets supposed to go? Yes but that is in space. When inside the atmosphere I think 3km a second would enevidably cause the jet dammage via friction generated from flying through whatever atmosphere the planet has .
Skipper Jones ZionTCD 121	Posted - 2013.06.17 20:54:00 - [46] - Quote KAMIKAZE. It's what I did in battlefield, It's what I'll do in Dust
Denidil Taureran Turalyon Plus 11	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:10:00 - [47] - Quote sorry nubcakes, i'll be bombing your ass from the sky in a close air support fighter
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 388	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:17:00 - [48] - Quote In a 16v16 map what would be the point of aerial attack vehicles if they didn't interact with ground troops at all? It would be like tactical orbital support... token and pointless. In a 32 v 32 or a 64 v 64 setting... maybe you could get away with it.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1847	Posted - 2013.06.17 21:18:00 - [49] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cosgar wrote: Target painting, make it happen CCP You wouldn't need that unless we had guided bombs, which I somehow doubt we'll have. Unguided would be fine for Fighters. That way you'll only get kills if you complete the run properly, and you'll have to commit even with AA fire coming up at you, so using them will be risky. Not that kind of target painting, this kind of target painting. But laser guiding gunships would be pretty awesome.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 297	Posted - 2013.06.17 22:23:00 - [50] - Quote I really like cosgars idea for antivehicle fitred jets. For the anti infantry (spray and pray strafing runs) either long range lowdammage high rate of fire blasters or specilised surface to air chain missiles.

Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1978	Posted - 2013.06.17 22:52:00 - [51] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Mobius Wyvern wrote: Cosgar wrote: Target painting, make it happen CCP You wouldn't need that unless we had guided bombs, which I somehow doubt we'll have. Unguided would be fine for Fighters. That way you'll only get kills if you complete the run properly, and you'll have to commit even with AA fire coming up at you, so using them will be risky. Not that kind of target painting, this kind of target painting. But laser guiding gunships would be pretty awesome. Ah, enhancing damage done against vehicles via painting. Intriguing! As far as Fighters go, you'll notice that the original concept art had a belly bay for a secondary turret, and a set of small turrets on the front. Why not keep that layout, keep the front mounted turrets, and have a belly bay for other weapon types? Maybe add a new market category for all non-turret vehicle weapons and label it Ordnance.


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