People already started crying OP and they want to nerf my Logi suit :(

Everything is OP, nothing is okay.

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So plates and ferro are soon to be in a reasonable place. Now we can continue to push for reactives to not suck and get us some racial bonuses to help with regen.

I think most people are going to swarm to plates now, so there is a high chance shields won't even need a penalty I think deoending on how 1.4 goes the next thread I make is to add a low slot shield HP module, or some fitting restrictions for HP modules by suit tank type. We are going to see some very crazy dual tank set ups, like 594 shield/595 armor Caldari assaults.

The best indicator that there is a problem is that I cannot envision the playstyle that makes armor tanking optimal. Try and think of a situation where someone who runs Caldari fits would say "When I get some sp built up into Gallente suits..." never going to happen.

Defending objectives or defending something is the only thing armor is good for, to be honest. The only time an armor suit can Excel at frontline combat is with a logistics suit wrapped around their thumb.

Disagree.

I see WAY TOO MUCH fighting in AR range. That is the gun that WILL level you in no time flat. At about 65m the AR gets about 30% efficiency while the ASR/SR/Laser/MD and TAC AR all can hit really hard still.

We shouldn't be arguing that your tank should be able to last so long for such and such a time. The longer a tank can last, the mmore irrelevant weapon damage profiles become, unless we want more weapons that do 30% damage to one or the other tank types. When you can take away 350 shield with one burst shot of your SR at 65m, and then follow up with a few more rounds you are engaging a strategy of tanking (kiting/tactical sniping) that isn't currently existing.

People need to spread out.

Don't forget that shield tanks were good, not because of how long they could survive, but because how quickly they could reengage after the fight. It was regen that mattered. Now we are all getting out of the bad strafing habit. If you are engaging in open terrain, then that is a huge risk. If you are engaging around or near cover, you have a better chance at surviving. Also, if you can engage and have an escape route that is not in the enemies LOS you have a better chance of getting away, especially if you are outside the detection zone of 10m-15m for most suits.

Yeah I already posted on the manus peak map. I agree that map more than any has very little cover. But you get my point that TTK is directly proportional to weapon efficiency? When people are fighting against a really high DPS weapon inside its optimals they shouldn't expect the TTK to be very long right? And if you can strafe the fire of the highest RoF/highes DPS weapon then how do you balance weapons that are low RoF and medium DPS? If strafing is THAT effective against that kind of weapon, using any other weapon type becomes pointless, you see? If RoF is REQUIRED in order to land a significant fraction of your weapon's damage then either they would HAVE to buff the lower RoF weapons to hit even harder, or do something to negate the effectiveness of strafing as a counter. If for example there was a type of locus grenade (that I have suggested) that slows the enemy down, that could be helpful for combating it. But the most damaging aspect of strafing is its ability to negate incoming damage, especially against low RoF weapons. You can't say that there is a skill equivalent between the AR and the TAC-AR when it comes to landing shots. There is a huge advantage to that high RoF inside the optimals.