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Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 18	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:48:00 - [1] - Quote Is it theoretically possible to put EVE on the PS4? Take into account: -Graphics -Player Base -Gameplay Mechanics -Control scheme (Duelshock 3 Compatable) and whatever else.
Dale Templar Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 102	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:50:00 - [2] - Quote No. Just no.
Stevez WingYip Lumodynamics Power Control Corp Panda Cave 28	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:50:00 - [3] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Is it theoretically possible to put EVE on the PS4? Take into account: -Graphics -Player Base -Gameplay Mechanics -Control scheme (Duelshock 3 Compatable) and whatever else. No.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 320	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:50:00 - [4] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Is it theoretically possible to put EVE on the PS4? Take into account: -Graphics -Player Base -Gameplay Mechanics -Control scheme (Duelshock 3 Compatable) and whatever else. If CCP really wanted to yes. Although it would use keyboard and mouse.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 673	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:52:00 - [5] - Quote I'm sure they could but, why? That would be a mess on a console.
Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 18	Posted - 2013.06.16 11:53:00 - [6] - Quote Why so many "No"? I was just watching a planetside 2 video, thinking "Wow thats gonna be on ps4" and then I thought about EVE and how its technically 10 years old.
Dale Templar Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 102	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:02:00 - [7] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Why so many "No"? I was just watching a planetside 2 video, thinking "Wow thats gonna be on ps4" and then I thought about EVE and how its technically 10 years old. EVE is not a console game, all putting EVE on a console would do is alienate the potential new players of DUST, which is bad, Planetside 2 isn't as great as it looks, it's a total pay to win, glitchy, shitshow, the original was better.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 673	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:04:00 - [8] - Quote Yes planetside 2 is complete ****. Makes DUST look good, that's how bad it is.
Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 18	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:05:00 - [9] - Quote What CCP could do is create a demo of sorts. just to get the ps3/4 playerbase to see what EVE is like. then at the end of said demo, it tells you "If you want more of this, and better of this, go play EVE on the PC." It could breath new life into a slowly dying game. I believe that is what they are doing with PS2 on ps4.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 629	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:06:00 - [10] - Quote It could be possible you know. You can know control the ship with a controller friendly menu, the radial menu.

Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 19	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:08:00 - [11] - Quote Even if it is not like full EVE, maybe a tutorial, maybe it shows you how to train skills, and takes you through a small battle with rats. and then makes you scan down a few sites. It could generate at least 1000 new players for it.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 321	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:11:00 - [12] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: What CCP could do is create a demo of sorts. just to get the ps3/4 playerbase to see what EVE is like. then at the end of said demo, it tells you "If you want more of this, and better of this, go play EVE on the PC." It could breath new life into a slowly dying game. I believe that is what they are doing with PS2 on ps4. EVE is dying lol idontthinkso
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 321	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:12:00 - [13] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Even if it is not like full EVE, maybe a tutorial, maybe it shows you how to train skills, and takes you through a small battle with rats. and then makes you scan down a few sites. It could generate at least 1000 new players for it. 1000 new players wont pay for the cost to do this.
Robert JD Niewiadomski NULLIMPEX INC 185	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:12:00 - [14] - Quote +1 but it should be still available for "old" formats (PC, Mac) If EVE made to PS4 it should be integrated with DUST client. Ultimate goal is E-VR (spaceship dogfights for now only) type encompassing EVE side and DUST side type of gameplay. One client to rule them all and multiplatform
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits 130	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:14:00 - [15] - Quote I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 19	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:19:00 - [16] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: +1 but it should be still available for "old" formats (PC, Mac) If EVE made to PS4 it should be integrated with DUST client. Ultimate goal is E-VR (spaceship dogfights for now only) type encompassing EVE side and DUST side type of gameplay. One client to rule them all and multiplatform i was thinking this. Like an expansion to dust. Maybe being only able to gather minerals (mining) and create dust items (weapons, suits, modules) It doesn't have to be an EVE copy, just something to show the console players what EVE is.
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 674	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:21:00 - [17] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Obsidian Rex wrote: What CCP could do is create a demo of sorts. just to get the ps3/4 playerbase to see what EVE is like. then at the end of said demo, it tells you "If you want more of this, and better of this, go play EVE on the PC." It could breath new life into a slowly dying game. I believe that is what they are doing with PS2 on ps4. EVE is dying lol idontthinkso yeah I don't think Obsidian has his information straight.
Nulldust Codex Troopers 5	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:22:00 - [18] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm sure they could but, why? Cause, many of us DUST players are EVE fans. And why shouldn't CCP bring a part of EVE to DUST? Like flying a warbarge. Or trading, mining, etc. Obsidian Rex wrote: What CCP could do is create a demo of sorts. Right.
Beld Errmon Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 648	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:26:00 - [19] - Quote I completely support the idea of dust players trying to fly warbarges around molden heath with a controller... my gawd it would be hilarious.
Nulldust Codex Troopers 5	Posted - 2013.06.16 12:30:00 - [20] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Obsidian Rex wrote: Even if it is not like full EVE, maybe a tutorial, maybe it shows you how to train skills, and takes you through a small battle with rats. and then makes you scan down a few sites. It could generate at least 1000 new players for it. 1000 new players wont pay for the cost to do this. I beg to differ. There's synergy to crossplatform gaming. It's something not done before and will generate free advertisement. Plus, as if ships such as warbarge not going to cost AUR?

Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 19	Posted - 2013.06.16 13:03:00 - [21] - Quote This could also offer the ability to link dust accounts with EVE accounts. Start up Dust on PS4, have 2 tabs, one for Dust, and one for EVE. Say a corp is doing PC. It is down a few players on the dust side and no corp members to replace them. Lets say the same corp has 10+ members on EVE side doing nothing but waiting to see the results of the PC. Well, if EVE gets a Dust expansion, those EVE players could relog into the dust expansion on PC and join the battle on the ground. Lets say the same corp is doing another PC battle in which they have 20+ members on Dust, and <2 on EVE. now those Dust players can log into the EVE side to give Defense to those ships providing OB support to keep them alive.
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 229	Posted - 2013.06.16 13:36:00 - [22] - Quote If Diablo 3 can go on a console, I see no reason why EVE couldn't. However, it really, really should not. The menu drop downs, while reduced in the last update, still would be absolute HELL on a console. CCP has no reason because I highly doubt putting EVE on a console would lead to more people playing EVE. Would be like putting World of Warcraft on a Game and Gear expecting more subscriptions.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 484	Posted - 2013.06.16 13:55:00 - [23] - Quote You won't see EVE on any console unless CCP overhauls the entire interface, and that wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. The sheer amount of clicking and spreadsheet gazing prevents a controller from being the optimal tool to interact. It could work, I suppose, as long as there was kb/m support.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 610	Posted - 2013.06.16 14:03:00 - [24] - Quote They can't even get linux to work right and you think they are gonna do it on the PS4? No.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 680	Posted - 2013.06.16 14:06:00 - [25] - Quote Eve is far too complex for consoles - the controls and interfaces would never work without a keyboard and mouse. As for the comment about potentially generating 1000 new players - why would a game with a playerbase of 500,000 put in so much effort to gain an extra 0.2%?
Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.06.16 14:10:00 - [26] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Eve is far too complex for consoles - the controls and interfaces would never work without a keyboard and mouse. As for the comment about potentially generating 1000 new players - why would a game with a playerbase of 500,000 put in so much effort to gain an extra 0.2%? I said At Least. it may generate a whole 10,000 for all we know. Im just saying this is a way to add more to the current EVE playerbase. Dust can only go so far on its own, the people who play it and don't have the money for a pc to play EVE, are going to sit there and wonder "What is EVE like? It sounds awesome, spaceship battles in space, wish I could play that" Ofcourse, there will be people who think the opposite and don't want anything to do with it, oh well, they don't have to play it. But for the lower class person who can maybe save up for 3 years after inittial ps4 release to get one, will never know how good a game like EVE is.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 323	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:29:00 - [27] - Quote Nulldust wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: Obsidian Rex wrote: Even if it is not like full EVE, maybe a tutorial, maybe it shows you how to train skills, and takes you through a small battle with rats. and then makes you scan down a few sites. It could generate at least 1000 new players for it. 1000 new players wont pay for the cost to do this. I beg to differ. There's synergy to crossplatform gaming. It's something not done before and will generate free advertisement. Plus, as if ships such as warbarge not going to cost AUR? I'm saying to port EVE to Ps4 would cost way too much money and effort for the little amount of money they would get.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 323	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:30:00 - [28] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Django Quik wrote: Eve is far too complex for consoles - the controls and interfaces would never work without a keyboard and mouse. As for the comment about potentially generating 1000 new players - why would a game with a playerbase of 500,000 put in so much effort to gain an extra 0.2%? I said At Least. it may generate a whole 10,000 for all we know. Im just saying this is a way to add more to the current EVE playerbase. Dust can only go so far on its own, the people who play it and don't have the money for a pc to play EVE, are going to sit there and wonder "What is EVE like? It sounds awesome, spaceship battles in space, wish I could play that" Ofcourse, there will be people who think the opposite and don't want anything to do with it, oh well, they don't have to play it. But for the lower class person who can maybe save up for 3 years after inittial ps4 release to get one, will never know how good a game like EVE is. Like I said too much money and time to port over to ps4. If they did do it it would be years probably not port it until the Ps5 comes out.
Lilah Silverstone The Arrow Project 106	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:35:00 - [29] - Quote Carbon on not a PC? lolno
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 292	Posted - 2013.06.16 20:37:00 - [30] - Quote I would like it, but it would have to be 15$ dollars a month like it is on PC otherwise it wouldn't really be fair. I mean come on guys, why would it be bad? You don't HAVE to play it, AND it would open up the opportunity to those who want to play it but don't want to play it on PC. ITs win win for everyone, and aside from people being like "nasdofjdlsfjk im a fanboy of one party or another and don't want it on the console because it should be on PC rawr".......

Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 324	Posted - 2013.06.16 21:14:00 - [31] - Quote Marston VC wrote: I would like it, but it would have to be 15$ dollars a month like it is on PC otherwise it wouldn't really be fair. I mean come on guys, why would it be bad? You don't HAVE to play it, AND it would open up the opportunity to those who want to play it but don't want to play it on PC. ITs win win for everyone, and aside from people being like "nasdofjdlsfjk im a fanboy of one party or another and don't want it on the console because it should be on PC rawr"....... I'm not saying it's bad but if they do thatthen guess what? There will be less staff on dust 514. Less staff = less bug fixes and content. Also they are already working on 4 different projects (Dust, EVE, World of Darkness, EVR) They should stick with fixing the games they need to before thinking of porting anything.
XeroTheBigBoss TeamPlayers EoN. 467	Posted - 2013.06.16 21:16:00 - [32] - Quote We PS4 don't want some aquarium lol. They wouldn't know what to do in console competition. There is a lot more than Star Trek Online to compete with here in the console world. As CCP is finding out the hard way with Dust514.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 381	Posted - 2013.06.16 21:51:00 - [33] - Quote The PC fanboys in this thread freaking out of even the idea that their game would run on a console is funny The only real hurdle would be control scheme, other than that I dont see a problem since cross platform play has been done before, is happening now, and will continue to happen in the future
hooc order Deep Space Republic 373	Posted - 2013.06.16 23:13:00 - [34] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Is it theoretically possible to put EVE on the PS4? Take into account: -Graphics -Player Base -Gameplay Mechanics -Control scheme (Duelshock 3 Compatable) and whatever else. Yes. The PS4 is basically a mid to high end PC....plenty of power to run EvE. Also it has 2 USB ports so no reason why it could not support keyboard and mouse. Furthermore Dust has proven that there is a big enough player base of EvE playing D-bags who own a PS3 for it to work on the PS4.
Azri Sarum 843 Boot Camp 33	Posted - 2013.06.16 23:29:00 - [35] - Quote You will never see EVE on a console. It would be like trying to play a console wearing oven mitts. The complexity of EVE's controls, dozens of hotkeys, drag and drop functionality, dropdown menu's on everything, windows, tabs... do i really need to go on? The thought of doing that with a DS3 is horrifying. I mean after a decade of development we have EVE as we know it today, and to be frank some parts of it are hard to control with a mouse and keyboard. Let alone with a controller. DUST has to deal with the smallest of subsets of what EVE has, and its a struggle to use most of the time. Now an eventual console version of their EVR prototype... that could have some potential.
Avallo Kantor DUST University Ivy League 56	Posted - 2013.06.16 23:53:00 - [36] - Quote Let's address some of the highlight points: 1) You would have to require Keyboard / Mouse. EVE has a lot of things that just wouldn't work on a controller. 2) You normally use external communication tools. Very VERY few people use EVE's in game voice. For most corps Mumble / Teamspeak / Ventrillo is nearly mandatory for most Fleets. 3) It would have a subscription fee. This, while per the norm on PC MMOs, is rather unusual for a console, and will likely drive away players. 4) All PC based, and independent update schedule. CCP isn't about to let anybody mandate when updates can be made to EVE, and if they did the player base would be -very- unhappy with it. It's not a move that would be wise, so they would have to ensure that Sony would let them push updates whenever they feel like. 5) What's the market for this? People who own PS4's but not a computer? It's an MMO so it's not like it's a question of internet. You can't play it either way if you don't have a stable connection. 6) Not a straightforward port. They just can't release it on a whim. They'll have to work for many months (if not nearly a year) to get the port workable, and even then it's a whole other version they would have to keep up to date and make sure no breaks are happening with. 7) Unhappy player base. If the current PC based player base knew that CCP was wasting development time / money on a port to a console of EVE that would likely not draw in many new players they would likely make a big deal and protest the motion quite strongly. That could do much more damage than just about any benefit could obtain.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 5267	Posted - 2013.06.17 00:06:00 - [37] - Quote Give me a mouse and keyboard.
Washlee Not Guilty EoN. 166	Posted - 2013.06.17 00:44:00 - [38] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: Is it theoretically possible to put EVE on the PS4? Take into account: -Graphics -Player Base -Gameplay Mechanics -Control scheme (Duelshock 3 Compatable) and whatever else. They probably have to ship a specially made controller for the game or make it like dust Mouse and Keyboard enabled
StarCrash II The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 12	Posted - 2013.06.17 01:31:00 - [39] - Quote Most of you guys have no idea how eve works unlike Dust most eve players run 2+ client at a time something u cant do on a console and dont think u will ever be able to. Also putting eve on ps4 would lose them money coz you cant run more then one client at a time Please learn about eve before making comments
boba's fetta Thukker Tribe Holdings Inc. Gathering Of Nomadic Explorers 96	Posted - 2013.06.17 02:57:00 - [40] - Quote yes eve is dying if you count an ever expanding player base as dying...

Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.06.17 22:53:00 - [41] - Quote I wanna know what the members of CCP think about this.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 370	Posted - 2013.06.17 23:44:00 - [42] - Quote Obsidian Rex wrote: I wanna know what the members of CCP think about this. I guarantee you all of them would think your stupid. Also good luck trying to get a dev to post in a thread in the locker room.
Obsidian Rex BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 20	Posted - 2013.06.18 00:10:00 - [43] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Obsidian Rex wrote: I wanna know what the members of CCP think about this. I guarantee you all of them would think your stupid. Also good luck trying to get a dev to post in a thread in the locker room. Being an ass to someone you don't know is probably a bad idea. Also, just because you think I am stupid, does not reflect on what a CCP member would think.


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