PS2 has more grinding than a Middle School dance.

PS2 has more grinding than a Middle School dance.

Less than dust does

You can cap out in PS2 in just 5 months, dust takes 32 years, TODAY.

Care to share the math on that for PS2? Last I checked it takes forever and a day to unlock anything at all in PS2, and this is coming from sinking hundreds of hours into that grindfest of all grindfests. In dust I can unlock a new weapon in a day or two, in PS2 it takes literally a thousand+ kills.

and wat about dust. 2-3 months just to get any good gear. Not to mention getting core skills maxed. 1 month for the gun, 1 - 2 months for the suit, 2-3 months for core skills, 1-2 months weapon upgrades. o and u want to switch guns. well then more grinding away. ur acting like it's easy in dust or something. and in dust u acculy need the gear to do anything

just coping and pasting myself. :D.

Less than dust does

You can cap out in PS2 in just 5 months, dust takes 32 years, TODAY.

I want BOTH of you to cite a source for these time periods, lol.

In dust it does take a while to get good gear, but in PS2 it takes much, much longer unless you shell out real money (something you can also do in DUST).

Have you played PS2?

Less than dust does

You can cap out in PS2 in just 5 months, dust takes 32 years, TODAY.

Capping out one role in Dust could take as little as 3 months depending on fittings and suit class.

I am genuinely not trying to troll (I know - that's what a troll would say), but have any of you played this and compared it to Dust?

Similarities

Space type FPS's
Multiple factions to join
Character customization
Free to Play
Air vehicles
Ground vehicles
Character class
Multiple character can be made on one account
Shileds and Armor
Both made by Sony, so XB1 will NOT be seeing this game.

Differences

(Planetside 2)
Only for PC right now. Confirmed to be coming out for PS4.
More refined than Dust. Graphics are great - Look up some gameplay on youtube
Developers seem to be pushing their media pretty well. -> https://www.planetside2.com/media

• They have a "Friday Night Ops" that focuses on biggest battles, fittings and other game crap with some chick named Auraxis
• A show on youtube
• In game live battle streaming
• Tons of wallpaper to download on their site + videos

You can pick whatever class you want, whenever you want, and begin leveling it like Battlefield 3
Infinite sprint (After playing this game and losing all my stamina jumping twice after getting stuck going up a hill, having to wait 5 sedondss, then jumping more to get up a hill I could walk up in real life - THANK GOD).
The community seems friendlier. Look at this topic on Gamefaqs. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718190-planetside-2/66429788 Why would anyone jump onto another systems board and promote the game to people that have never played it? People on their forums definitely aren't as upset with the game or developers as this forum is.
You can play as a class called "Max" which is like some kind of jugernaut-techno-supersoldier. I think it's like a power you can activate if you do well enough. Not sure.
More players in a match (I think 80 vs 80?)
It seems like the moment you login, you are in battle. You spawn in a safezone protected by a huge dome, and in order to fight you just go outside the dome into enemy territories (that you can capture). Because of this, I don't think there are any other game modes besides all out war.
Test server to bullshit around on.
Very thorough tutorial that walks you through everything there is to do
You can customize weapons (Silencers, scopes, etc)

Honestly I can't talk about the gameplay because I can't play for crap on the PC. Definitely too used to controllers, lol. I ran around a bit and everything seems way more responsive. Again, I haven't really played much, but the first impressions are way higher than what this game gave me. Just my opinion.

(Dust 514)
Less players in a match
More of an RPG element.
Much deeper character customization.
Glitchy
Graphics are... eh.
Finite Stamina
Tied to another game.
Orbital bombardments(?). I'm not sure if PS2 has this or not.
More weapon varieties.
No test server
More game modes
Mercenary battles

Dust has a lot of potential, but unfortunately I've emptied 50+rounds into people to just barely break their shields too many times to really think of too many great things this game has going for it. It certainly has potential though. No one can deny that.

So my question is: When it comes to people who like MMOFPS's, why would anyone choose Dust over Planetside 2? Have any of you played both and still chose Dust? Really I'm not trying to troll or convert people, I just thought it was really interesting that among this community of MMOFPS enthusiasts, none of us are talking about PS2 despite how similar it is to Dust - yet it's in a much better balanced and working order (for now).

What are your thoughts?

Friendlier community?
People on the forums not as upset?

I'm not sure what day of the week you've been on there, but - oh wait, you must not have been on after the ZOE MAXes came out.

I guarantee you wouldn't be talking about a friendly community if you were there for that.

Or the SplatterMAX. Or Zephyrs. Or HE guns for tanks. Or Shotguns for Infiltrators.

I could go on for hours. SOE breaks **** left and right and the forums are full of people screaming at them to stop.

Coming up toward a year after release and it's still a pointless grind unless you want to spend $7 dollars per asset. Premium players get queue priority so free players can't get into servers or switch continents during "prime time", and most of the people that play it are so tired of getting **** on that they just look for empty bases and cap those for a measly 2 Cert points (takes1000 to get any good weapon) rather than deal with getting **** on by mass ZOE MAXes or whatever latest fotm OP bullshit everyone is using.

I was in for the Tech Test (Pre-Closed Beta) of that game, and I have watched it grow since then.

I have watched it grow from a steaming pile of **** into a semi-sentient steaming pile of **** that can almost form coherent words.

And then the devs beat it with a shovel until it stops talking.

>that feel when I was in for the tech test too and everything he said is correct.
>that feel when planetside 2 could have been an awesome game
>that feel when planetside 2 is about as fun as brink

Care to share the math on that for PS2? Last I checked it takes forever and a day to unlock anything at all in PS2, and this is coming from sinking hundreds of hours into that grindfest of all grindfests. In dust I can unlock a new weapon in a day or two, in PS2 it takes literally a thousand+ kills.

I have 40,000 certs after about 5 months playing. That pretty much unlocks 100% of any infantry gear you will ever need across all classes and probably 75% of all vehicular gear I will ever need unlocked. By the time I get to 60-70k certs I will have nothing else I care about to unlock.

1 Cert = 250xp so I have earned basically 10mil XP.

1 infantry kill = between 50-500 certs, 1 vehicle kill = between 400 - 2k xp (depending on crew and other factors). Alerts are between 1k and 10k xp per event and each base capture is worth between 250-750xp. You can often also be fighting under a +20% to +100% situational xp boost when outnumbered by the enemy.

I have around 15k kills, which means I am sort of averaging 660 xp per kill or 2.5 certs per kill.

There isn't really a seriously visible grind because you need to remember that those 40k certs have bought me literally hundreds of various upgrades and pieces of equipment. Like all things when you're starting at zero the mountain looks tall but when you've climbed most of it, you realise it wasn't actually a big deal.



Average gun = 750-1000 certs = 300-400 kills. /maths

Also, the starter guns are actually some of the best guns in the game. Example: the Vanu Sovereignty Orion light machine gun is arguably the most versatile and effective infantry rifle in the whole game and its your starter weapon. The only guns you NEED to buy is 1) an upgraded rocket launcher, 2) either an SMG or shotgun for CQC, 3) 2 extra gun arms for your MAX armour. Everything else is optional.

I can honestly say I didn't fuss much over that period as to how many certs I had because the next piece of equipment was never far away. Example: buying the ability to use a proximity mine for my infiltrator = 200 certs (80 kills). Buying a new night vision sight for my rifle = 30 certs (12 kills). Buying L1 telescopic sight for my tank = 1 certs (less than a kill), buying L2 sight = 10 certs (4 kills) and so on.

PS: Mobius is a bitter loon, PS2 has balance issues like every game but nothing remotely resembling those ravings.

Cant wait for Planetside 2!!!!!!!

Making an account dedicated to putting a person down, really shows how hateful you,are. Not to mention cowardly, this way you can talk bad without getting your main banned.

Pitiful.

Friendlier community?
People on the forums not as upset?

I'm not sure what day of the week you've been on there, but - oh wait, you must not have been on after the ZOE MAXes came out.

I guarantee you wouldn't be talking about a friendly community if you were there for that.

Or the SplatterMAX. Or Zephyrs. Or HE guns for tanks. Or Shotguns for Infiltrators.

I could go on for hours. SOE breaks **** left and right and the forums are full of people screaming at them to stop.

Coming up toward a year after release and it's still a pointless grind unless you want to spend $7 dollars per asset. Premium players get queue priority so free players can't get into servers or switch continents during "prime time", and most of the people that play it are so tired of getting **** on that they just look for empty bases and cap those for a measly 2 Cert points (takes1000 to get any good weapon) rather than deal with getting **** on by mass ZOE MAXes or whatever latest fotm OP bullshit everyone is using.

I was in for the Tech Test (Pre-Closed Beta) of that game, and I have watched it grow since then.

I have watched it grow from a steaming pile of **** into a semi-sentient steaming pile of **** that can almost form coherent words.

And then the devs beat it with a shovel until it stops talking.

Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........

Planetside 2

Coming to PS4 this year

I am genuinely not trying to troll (I know - that's what a troll would say), but have any of you played this and compared it to Dust?

Similarities

Space type FPS's
Multiple factions to join
Character customization
Free to Play
Air vehicles
Ground vehicles
Character class
Multiple character can be made on one account
Shileds and Armor
Both made by Sony, so XB1 will NOT be seeing this game.

Differences

(Planetside 2)
Only for PC right now. Confirmed to be coming out for PS4.
More refined than Dust. Graphics are great - Look up some gameplay on youtube
Developers seem to be pushing their media pretty well. -> https://www.planetside2.com/media

• They have a "Friday Night Ops" that focuses on biggest battles, fittings and other game crap with some chick named Auraxis
• A show on youtube
• In game live battle streaming
• Tons of wallpaper to download on their site + videos

You can pick whatever class you want, whenever you want, and begin leveling it like Battlefield 3
Infinite sprint (After playing this game and losing all my stamina jumping twice after getting stuck going up a hill, having to wait 5 sedondss, then jumping more to get up a hill I could walk up in real life - THANK GOD).
The community seems friendlier. Look at this topic on Gamefaqs. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/718190-planetside-2/66429788 Why would anyone jump onto another systems board and promote the game to people that have never played it? People on their forums definitely aren't as upset with the game or developers as this forum is.
You can play as a class called "Max" which is like some kind of jugernaut-techno-supersoldier. I think it's like a power you can activate if you do well enough. Not sure.
More players in a match (I think 80 vs 80?)
It seems like the moment you login, you are in battle. You spawn in a safezone protected by a huge dome, and in order to fight you just go outside the dome into enemy territories (that you can capture). Because of this, I don't think there are any other game modes besides all out war.
Test server to bullshit around on.
Very thorough tutorial that walks you through everything there is to do
You can customize weapons (Silencers, scopes, etc)

Honestly I can't talk about the gameplay because I can't play for crap on the PC. Definitely too used to controllers, lol. I ran around a bit and everything seems way more responsive. Again, I haven't really played much, but the first impressions are way higher than what this game gave me. Just my opinion.

(Dust 514)
Less players in a match
More of an RPG element.
Much deeper character customization.
Glitchy
Graphics are... eh.
Finite Stamina
Tied to another game.
Orbital bombardments(?). I'm not sure if PS2 has this or not.
More weapon varieties.
No test server
More game modes
Mercenary battles

Dust has a lot of potential, but unfortunately I've emptied 50+rounds into people to just barely break their shields too many times to really think of too many great things this game has going for it. It certainly has potential though. No one can deny that.

So my question is: When it comes to people who like MMOFPS's, why would anyone choose Dust over Planetside 2? Have any of you played both and still chose Dust? Really I'm not trying to troll or convert people, I just thought it was really interesting that among this community of MMOFPS enthusiasts, none of us are talking about PS2 despite how similar it is to Dust - yet it's in a much better balanced and working order (for now).

What are your thoughts?