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Mike Poole
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:56:00 -
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CCP needs to get their **** in order and realize that at this stage of the game either they need to implement temporary self-respecs or just pack up and go home.
With the level of content that is still up in the air they're punishing their pleyer base by either forcing them to self gimp themselves in the hope that their awaited weapon/suit/vehicle/whatever will eventually be released or forcing them to double grind first to use the available content and then to abandon all of that investment and grind all over again once the promised content is released.
If this game were anywhere even near release ready, if they had the fundamentals like all racial dropsuits and a weapon system that wasn't a jumble of incomprehensible ranges and damages available at release this wouldn't be much of a deal and there wouldn't be as serious a need for respecs.
But this game wasn't release ready. It had, and still has, large chunks of it's core content missing and punishing players for CCP's own lack of forethought just isn't going to cut it. |
Mike Poole
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:57:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Wow, I thought we had moved on from this "more respecs" topic. I suggest starting a "DUST is doomed" or "I am leaving" much more current QQ subjects. Not all of us are as convinced of CCPs infinite wisdom, I guess Well, this is not something that feedback(QQ) will change. It is a design choice. Here comes the snarky bit. If you want a different game, feel free to start your own game company.
Seriously? Here's your problem. People don't have to go start their own game company, all they have to do is something far simpler and pick up any other better designed game out there.
This is what happens when a company looks at player feedback and then spits in their faces, the players aren't going to suck it up because their only alternative is something stupid like forming their own company, they're going to leave and the game is going to die.
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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:44:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:A'Real Fury wrote:Considering all the problems CCP is having with the Respecs it may be easier for them to Respec everybody rather than individuals or a specific skill tree.
I will not say whether I agree or disagree with Respecs in general but if they can not process everybody who requested one by the time Uprising 1.2 then a full Respec for everyone would be a final line under the matter.
Finally based on evidence it seems far easier for CCP to do a global Respec rather than a targeted one. The problem with that is uprising 1.2 is not the last update. If they allow a respec for it they set a precedent of respecs because of updates. Why isnt this understood?
What don't you understand this isn't just some average update?
The added dropsuits to finish off the heavy and light tiers are going to have a large impact on the game, not to forget the immense effect that having a properly functioning weapon range and damage falloff system will have on all weapon types across the board.
This isn't "Oh, CCP added a new OP weapon I want a full respec so I can switch to it", this is "Oh crap, CCP just entirely changed how all weapons function and the basis for why I've pumped all of my SP into this weapon class is now a pile of trash"
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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:23:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Mike Poole wrote:Jin Robot wrote:A'Real Fury wrote:Considering all the problems CCP is having with the Respecs it may be easier for them to Respec everybody rather than individuals or a specific skill tree.
I will not say whether I agree or disagree with Respecs in general but if they can not process everybody who requested one by the time Uprising 1.2 then a full Respec for everyone would be a final line under the matter.
Finally based on evidence it seems far easier for CCP to do a global Respec rather than a targeted one. The problem with that is uprising 1.2 is not the last update. If they allow a respec for it they set a precedent of respecs because of updates. Why isnt this understood? What don't you understand this isn't just some average update? The added dropsuits to finish off the heavy and light tiers are going to have a large impact on the game, not to forget the immense effect that having a properly functioning weapon range and damage falloff system will have on all weapon types across the board. This isn't "Oh, CCP added a new OP weapon I want a full respec so I can switch to it", this is "Oh crap, CCP just entirely changed how all weapons function and the basis for why I've pumped all of my SP into this weapon class is now a pile of trash" So then what about mechs? Jets? Speeders? Whatever else they come up with? Your argument is full of holes and having seen your posts before, I am not surprised.
Your argument is like comparing apples to oranges. None of those additions have already been partially introduced forcing people to spec into the existing available models, the new dropsuits and the changes to weapon ranges effect an existing infrastructure people have been forced into.
And why not allow respecs when any of those features are added? How much variety is there going to be in the game when any of those are released and you have a relative handful of players that saved up prior or grinded after the release to access them? How many players that have already sunk their SP into a specific setup are going to toss it all away to start all over again investing in something new?
If you make massive adjustments to the game you need to allow respecs not just to allow people to spread out into the new roles but to allow those that enjoy their existing setup to adapt to the new situations without taking weeks or months to do so.
What happens when CCP gets off their asses and adjusts shield tanking? You're going to have a HUGE segment of the population that was reliant on a mechanic working a certain way who now have to entirely retool how they play. Someone like you would end up saying "adapt or die" and those players are going to die a whole lot until they're able to save up the SP to entirely retool their setups and that could take again weeks and weeks and many players won't have the patience to wait that long just to bring themselves back to a point they were at before the changes. |
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