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Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:44:00 -
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i vote for: NO RESPEC ever |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:45:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i vote for: NO RESPEC ever Even if you have AR operation/sharpshooter/proficiency 5 and you log in the next day to find all your fits are invalid because your Gallente logi, along with all logis get restricted to sidearms and no forewarning from the devs?
i don't run logi. i run the raven suit. Ar on lvl 3. scr on 5 with prof 4 which i use only in good squads and non pub matches. (using the auto variant of the scr, b/c the single shot is too op and it feels like cheating)
usualy i run raven with exile ar, and some other bpo's. if it gets nerfed, which i doupt, so be it.
I am agianst Respecs because i think you have to live with the consequences. If you screw up because you used a obviously broken tool, its your fault. If you screw up because you did not read, or did not understand the tooltip of a skill, its your fault.
Choose wisely and live with the consequences.
Eve pilots dont get to respec their skills every now and then. if a ship gets nerfed, like it happend to the drake recently, they have to live with it.
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Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:09:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i vote for: NO RESPEC ever Even if you have AR operation/sharpshooter/proficiency 5 and you log in the next day to find all your fits are invalid because your Gallente logi, along with all logis get restricted to sidearms and no forewarning from the devs? i don't run logi. i run the raven suit. Ar on lvl 3. scr on 5 with prof 4 which i use only in good squads and non pub matches. (using the auto variant of the scr, b/c the single shot is too op and it feels like cheating) usualy i run raven with exile ar, and some other bpo's. if it gets nerfed, which i doupt, so be it. I am agianst Respecs because i think you have to live with the consequences. If you screw up because you used a obviously broken tool, its your fault. If you screw up because you did not read, or did not understand the tooltip of a skill, its your fault. Choose wisely and live with the consequences. Eve pilots dont get to respec their skills every now and then. if a ship gets nerfed, like it happend to the drake recently, they have to live with it. I always keep thinking you run Gallente logi for some reason, my fault. But anyway, you're missing my point. If you invest your SP into something you should be rewarded for what it brings. But the cutoff is that we have bugged skills, skills that don't work as described in the text and things that are changing overnight without any indication or forewarning like the series of ninja nerfs vehicles are going through. I'm with you on you should life with your choices, but if those choices are misinformed or baited and switched by CCP's influence breaking the 4th wall of New Eden's rules, all bets should be off if it's so drastic that you would have never made that choice to begin with since the outcome was altered. It's like buying an apple but it gets turned into an orange when you bite into it and the vender you bought it from tells you to deal with it.
see i agree with you to some point, BUT let me tell you a story.
In Chromosome i loved the laser rifle. Then came uprising. I didn't jump into lasers just from the start because lasers were kewl in the last build. I looked at the stats first. i invested 1 lvl, which won't brake your legs, into it and saw the sight range etc. The changes led me to the point where i decided not to spec into lasers anymore.
My point is: Don't jump into stuff just because it was good in the last build.
Second.
If the AR or the SCR get nerfed, or the new guns (Caldari, MinmaTard) prove to be superior, then its bad luck i guess. i hold about 1.5 mil sp on the side for such events. Why you ask? because thats what you do if you know that stuff may change. And if those 1.5 mil won't be enough well then its bad luck for me and i start to grind.
Now you allready know that stuff may change over time. Harden up and prepare for it by saving SP or don't if you feel confident that your stuff won't get nerfed again
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Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:30:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Now you allready know that stuff may change over time. Harden up and prepare for it by saving SP or don't if you feel confident that your stuff won't get nerfed again So just like AFK, the best way to play DUST is to not Got it.
when did I say anything about afking?
I don't afk. Just yesterday i had a very very bad match. 13/16. The other team had good teamwork 2 full squads and most of them ran proto. I refuse to run proto in pubs. went into fights throug the hole game and made sure that at least 2 protos went home with negativ isk. This costed me 30k isk (yes i mean 30k not 300k) but sometimes you have to invest some isk
Cosgar: yes i see but how about just running an AR? The standard issue AR is enough to be successfull most of the time. |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:37:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Now you allready know that stuff may change over time. Harden up and prepare for it by saving SP or don't if you feel confident that your stuff won't get nerfed again So just like AFK, the best way to play DUST is to not Got it. when did I say anything about afking? I don't afk. Just yesterday i had a very very bad match. 13/16. The other team had good teamwork 2 full squads and most of them ran proto. I refuse to run proto in pubs. went into fights throug the hole game and made sure that at least 2 protos went home with negativ isk. This costed me 30k isk (yes i mean 30k not 300k) but sometimes you have to invest some isk Cosgar: yes i see but how about just running an AR? The standard issue AR is enough to be successfull most of the time. But why should Cosgar change his playstyle because CCP decided to nerf a perfectly balanced weapon?
i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain?
Addapt and overcome buttercup |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:41:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:Then do that, leave. Its like you are in line to get a free Dali painting and then give "feedback" on how you dont want any melting clocks in it. It is not a bug, it is a design choice. If you dont want it, accept it and leave. I'm sorry that some of us have foresight and would actually like to see the already terrible player retention increase, as opposed to decrease. Just because something is a design choice doesn't mean it's automatically right Donnerwerk wrote:when did I say anything about afking? You didn't, but what you're saying is don't use your SP because CCP is unpredictable and doesn't communicate decisions like this with us. So instead of playing the game and using your SP to enhance your experience, you sit on it, in the hopes that CCP gets something right SOONtm. AKA, AFKing with your SP
do you have a bankaccount or do you just spend all you money on payday? Hoping nothing unforseen will happen? |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:44:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:do you have a bankaccount or do you just spend all you money on payday? Hoping nothing unforseen will happen? Do you not pay any of your bills, and just sit on all your money until you think you have enough to make you happy?
How did you know? |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:49:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain? Addapt and overcome buttercup Laser nerf was in the patch notes, MD nerf wasn't and no info on bugs because they obviously didn't test it. Also, laser still gets kills, play with Jaden once in a while...
ahh you're jaden k. will hit you up to form squads :)
and lasers, if i ever meet them on the battlefield, get killed quickly. just close in and dont stand still. thats all you have to do to win 94.56% of the fight.
(percentage is purely made up) |
Donnerwerk
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:05:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain? Addapt and overcome buttercup No weapon should be nerfed to the ground though. And you shouldnt be OK with that unless you are just a FotM weapon user who loves searching for the next OP. All skills should have use or be removed. I could easily say, I want to "adapt" that SP in another area I use weapons I like and others that I find fit my playstyle. I really dont think its right that I should have to jump through hoops to use them or abandon them because of some silly axiom this game promotes. Adapting should be tactics not finding out your weapon now shoots rainbows.
not FotM user. didn't spec into whatever fit was popular apart from lasers. I play what i like. if it's broken... well i usually try to make it work for me and my playstyle.
(Btw: not saying that CCP hasn't got anything to work on and everything is perfect. Many many things are obviously broken. I just don't see most of CCP's employees as professionals. Last addition to the non professional employees being Mintchip. Therefor i cut them some slack because i know they try but as i said... sometimes not very professional.
If CCP should be willing to copy anything from an other game then its the DEV, communitiy communications policy from Planetside 2 bringing updates and reworks to Planetside every month including a roadmap for many months an precise communication for upcomming updates.)
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