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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:24:00 -
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So sick of the noob tube argument - I am an average FPS, I sometimes use them but you know what, more times than not a veteran player will kill me with their preferred weapon or the "cheap gun"
Over and over again I watched top notch players use all sorts of means to dominate in Halo, Gears, COD etc. Some of them may be a bit pissed if they get killed "cheaply" but most of the time they know they can avoid it and do.
You want to talk cheap - stay in red zone or mcc with a militia sniper and even scrubs like me can get two hit or one hit kills. No SP required. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
83
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:49:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain? Addapt and overcome buttercup 
No weapon should be nerfed to the ground though. And you shouldnt be OK with that unless you are just a FotM weapon user who loves searching for the next OP. All skills should have use or be removed.
I could easily say, I want to "adapt" that SP in another area  I use weapons I like and others that I find fit my playstyle. I really dont think its right that I should have to jump through hoops to use them or abandon them because of some silly axiom this game promotes.
Adapting should be tactics not finding out your weapon now shoots rainbows. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:53:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:
Here's the problem. The forum whiners and doomsayers actually believe that they run CCP. Dust isn't designed by forumites, and thankfully so. A design choice, is by design, and therefore automatically what CCP wants. It's not your call. You aren't that important. Please leave and stop trying to turn Dust into COD and it's ilk.
Some will leave. Some will stay. Dust will survive. You guys REALLY have an inflated sense of your self worth, and btw, the validity of your input.
So they wanted Roadkill Rampage and Pot Shot Safari 
Shouldve put that in a Devblog |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:12:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
Here's the problem. The forum whiners and doomsayers actually believe that they run CCP. Dust isn't designed by forumites, and thankfully so. A design choice, is by design, and therefore automatically what CCP wants. It's not your call. You aren't that important. Please leave and stop trying to turn Dust into COD and it's ilk.
Some will leave. Some will stay. Dust will survive. You guys REALLY have an inflated sense of your self worth, and btw, the validity of your input.
So they wanted Roadkill Rampage and Pot Shot Safari Shouldve put that in a Devblog That will be iterated out. I was referring to the debate about the design choice of not having respecs, and the debate around not having respecs. You see, bumper cars etc isn't a design choice. It is a manifestation of imbalances, mostly in the matchmaker. That's different than a design choice to make SP decisions meaningful.
Point taken but my whole philosophy of the no respec (which I agree with) is that if you want things to be meaningful and you want a player to chart a course then give them the necessary tools. I shouldnt have to wait, then come on forums to find out that skilling up in certain things are trash and weapons that should act a certain way dont.
Take the MD, I loved it because I am not the most accurate and I could at least aid my team in controlling an area and if lucky I could get to an elevated spot and just damage the opponent. Now players dont even blink at you. Also profile dampening and precision and range amplification. Sounds decent in the description but after playing and listening to other vets I found out its a total waste to use them at this point in time.
How long is a person expected to wait for these things to be iterated out, especially when Devs arent really saying what is working as expected, it has to be pulled out of them by constant posting on subjects. If you are just a normal player you will just say this is sh!t and be done with it. And for the EVE-its that say "has your stuff" and go back to (insert better FPS product) that only ensures the game stays will a small player base which only suits them, not developer or new people who would love to enjoy the EVE vision.
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Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:39:00 -
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Ncredible Beast wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:I've just never once played a lobby shooter where you were only allowed to use one build for months on end unless you paid the company to get you there quicker, or were forced to play in highly gimped fits (low SP) in order to enjoy other aspects of the game.
MMO's cover this by allowing you to do all sorts of things not related to shooting another player in the face as you slowly level up. Lobby shooters don't have this luxury. I am glad dust 514 isn't one of them but planetside 2 is. Have CCP hired you to **** talk PS2 in every thread to try make Dust look better? 'Cause really, thats all you seem to be doing. Pay2Win or not, atleast Planetside 2 is a full game. The die hard Dust514 fanbois will be very lonely 2014.
I think many of them want it to be their personal little play area. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:55:00 -
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But the game is free so you will never control that 
also if CCP is actually looking to grow their playerbase they shouldnt be just appealing to EVE-ites who want to play around in the shooter portion of the universe.
And I am far from an FPS specialist but the responses from many seem happy to wait till kingdom come for this utopia and tell any dissenting voices where to go while others (read not trolls and whingers) spend many hours putting forth great suggestions. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2013.06.13 19:16:00 -
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Cosgar, I have read many of your posts and you arent one I would put in that lot.
At the moment I am not frustrated that much with the game or even what CCP seems to be trying to achieve. I do have a big issue though with the lack of content that I would expect in a base product and also the sentiment that is put forth by many with regards to other games or players that came from other titles.
Many, including myself dont want this to be a clone of other titles but those other games do many things right in certain aspects. Also if you are a proven company you should be able to get things done in a reasonable time.
I also dont have much of an issue with pub stomping but I have issues with weapon balance when you expect a heavy investment into said weapons.
And Adapt or Die is a stupid sentiment in this game because it doesnt really apply, it should be AFK and read the forum and then skill into whats hot and have some fun.
I am really hoping for the best with these new updates but I am going to call CCP on things I dont think are acceptable. You cant flaunt your EVE cred and say you are putting out a top flight shooter and not deliver a quality title. You cant take jabs at other games about we dont make sequels and then deliver a piecemeal product.
I just call it how I see it. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.13 20:10:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:@Jin - But the game is free so you will never control that also if CCP is actually looking to grow their playerbase they shouldnt be just appealing to EVE-ites who want to play around in the shooter portion of the universe. And I am far from an FPS specialist but the responses from many seem happy to wait till kingdom come for this utopia and tell any dissenting voices where to go while others (read not trolls and whingers) spend many hours putting forth great suggestions. I am not trying to control anything. I am just voicing an opinion (that CCP shares) about how I think constant respecs are bad. It is not the lobby shooter you are looking for.
Well on the respec issue I agree and stated so.
But you have to make sure that all your skills have value so when you hold the line of no respecs it is actually valid and not "Because Daddy says so"
If Weapons are sorted, the other basic Suits come in and some of the other skills are given value you wont here me complain. I also think whomever is calling for respecs now is more than likely disingenuous because only TAR got slightly nerfed and that was widely reported and hasnt crippled it.
Anyone with a heavy (or light if those are coming in) can get a respec in that tree. The other maybe AR and that tree could be refunded. I guess I am saying only respecs on the racial basic stuff that should be in the game from jump.
Personally the OP has no legs to stand on because he knew the weapon wasnt good and chose to avoid it. |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2013.06.14 00:01:00 -
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I dont think anything above 32 players is truly feasible on PS3 / 360 |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2013.06.14 00:33:00 -
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Chinduko wrote:KingBabar wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:I dont think 32 players is truly feasible for CCP Fixed True. If MAG was able to create 128v128 matches, other games should be able to as well, but I doubt CCP can do it.
On a console?
Most games on console are up to 32. There maybe some that are 48 but not sure.
Next Gen consoles will feature 64v64 combat as confirmed by BF4.
Edit - apologies - just looked it up.
Never played MAG, only played Xbox FPS's until Dust. |
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