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Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.06.13 12:40:00 -
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If the MD gets fixed, it'll still be a POS. I have prof 5 and with damage mods, the Freedom deals less damage than the EXO-5's base damage in Chromosome. Add that to the EHP buff all suits got, the trajectory change, and the nanohives nerf and you got a big pile of "why bother." Anyone who says otherwise is delusional, trolling, or never used the Freedom or Boundless in CBs back in chrome to realize how gimped the weapon was to begin with.
Player skill made the MD look OP. They can't nerf skill, but they sure as hell nerfed the weapon so nobody would want to use it. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:24:00 -
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I love how people who obviously never use a game mechanic try to act like they're an authority on how it should be balanced. You can't bull **** a bull ****er... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:39:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Having no respecs in an FPS that has such depth with no form of tutorials or way to test new playstyles is a horrible idea.
It will only serve to drive people away, not keep them interested. And especially when things get ninja nerfed on a whim. I'm not talking about the TAC AR that got a love tap, but when they bring down Mjolnir on something and never mention it in the patch notes. Contrary to what any heavy will tell you, CCP doesn't hate them, they respected them enough to forewarn them and let them keep the jar when they got neutered.
In a game about living with the consequences of your actions, they're sure breaking the 4th wall and changing those consequences too much that your actions won't matter in the end. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 13:48:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:i vote for: NO RESPEC ever Even if you have AR operation/sharpshooter/proficiency 5 and you log in the next day to find all your fits are invalid because your Gallente logi, along with all logis get restricted to sidearms and no forewarning from the devs? |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 14:55:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:No more respecs,if you have put your sp to wrong place stick with that,in uprising i put my sp to wrong places put dident ask respec i just stick my mistake So bugged skills, and ninja nerfs are our fault? Yeah, that makes sense... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:17:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:Cosgar wrote:If the MD gets fixed, it'll still be a POS. I have prof 5 and with damage mods, the Freedom deals less damage than the EXO-5's base damage in Chromosome. Add that to the EHP buff all suits got, the trajectory change, and the nanohives nerf and you got a big pile of "why bother." Anyone who says otherwise is delusional, trolling, or never used the Freedom or Boundless in CBs back in chrome to realize how gimped the weapon was to begin with.
Player skill made the MD look OP. They can't nerf skill, but they sure as hell nerfed the weapon so nobody would want to use it. So player skill is aiming at someones feet? The MD was the only weapon with bullet travel back in Chromosone, meaning you had to predict where your enemy was going to be and lead the target, and also aim it higher because of the bullet drop. So yes, MD does require skill, it was one of the few weapons that required skill, and still is. all noob tubes have travel time in any game, they are still NOOBtubes... Any gun with approximation is skill-less Says the guy that QQed about the TAC AR nerf and Fused Locus Grenades while using a CaLogi suit as an assault +1 |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:24:00 -
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Chinduko wrote: I found the MD much harder to use than the AR (I'm told the AR takes skill). I couldn't kill anything with the MD, but with an AR I can hit the target's head with ease. When a MD user kills you, it's OP, and when an AR user kills you, it's skill? I don't think so.
The MD was a feared weapon in Chromosome as it should be, but not anymore. As long as you MD users don't kill any AR users, CCP won't nerf it to death.
Yeah, about that nerf:
CCP Remnant wrote:KA24DERT wrote:SirManBoy wrote:The mass driver needs some serious TLC. Some arbitrary 10% buff isn't going to adequately address its extensive list of new shortcomings, including its damage (it needs far more than a 10% buff), its splash area, and its aiming. In its current state, the mass driver is a hot mess that no longer commands any respect on the battlefield, which means all of its tactical value is gone. This is especially true for logi bros who used it to enhance their support role. A mass driver used to scare people away long enough to make revives, throw down nanos, and make repairs. This is no longer the case. Yeah, the MD has gotten hit pretty hard: MD Specific: 1) Splash Radius 2) Misleading Smoke Trail 3) Damage nerf 4) Range Nerf General, but hits MD hard: 1) Nanohive Nerf (my smg kills have gone way up.) This has changed the weapon entirely. People can hide behind obstacles and be safe, People can run from cover to cover at a distance and be safe. People can charge at me and absorb my damage while taking me down (easier than before). I've adjusted my playstyle to this. And am now finding myself charging into groups of enemies and using the MD like a blind man's shotgun. It works, but i'm not sure that's the weapon's intended role. If the 10% damage buff is across the board, then bringing back the splash radius and increasing the range will bring this weapon back up to snuff. To be perfectly honest, I'm a little baffled at what's happened with the Mass Driver. The reason for the splash and blast range nerf was that in playtests we found the MD to be so effective that at one point almost half the people in the office were using it in battles. Clearly, that's not been the case with Uprising and after getting the engineers to go elbow deep into the code it appears there may be a few reasons beyond dry numbers that are contributing to the MDs underwhelming performance. One, there appears to be a de-sync between client and server so that (more often than it should) the server and client think the projectile exploded in different places. They're not far off, but enough so that shots you *think* are spot on are off the mark enough to do only minor splash damage. And two, I'm told splash occlusion is getting blocked by a single player character more than it should, contributing to the "randomness" of the damage dealt and the sometimes smudgy feeling of the weapon. I'm hesitant to rebalance the weapon until we get these issues looked at (which is happening right now). AR users aren't what you have to worry about. It's Devs getting butthurt over a LAN party. A real spit in the face to anyone who gave feedback during beta. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 15:52:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i vote for: NO RESPEC ever Even if you have AR operation/sharpshooter/proficiency 5 and you log in the next day to find all your fits are invalid because your Gallente logi, along with all logis get restricted to sidearms and no forewarning from the devs? i don't run logi. i run the raven suit. Ar on lvl 3. scr on 5 with prof 4 which i use only in good squads and non pub matches. (using the auto variant of the scr, b/c the single shot is too op and it feels like cheating) usualy i run raven with exile ar, and some other bpo's. if it gets nerfed, which i doupt, so be it. I am agianst Respecs because i think you have to live with the consequences. If you screw up because you used a obviously broken tool, its your fault. If you screw up because you did not read, or did not understand the tooltip of a skill, its your fault. Choose wisely and live with the consequences. Eve pilots dont get to respec their skills every now and then. if a ship gets nerfed, like it happend to the drake recently, they have to live with it. I always keep thinking you run Gallente logi for some reason, my fault. But anyway, you're missing my point. If you invest your SP into something you should be rewarded for what it brings. But the cutoff is that we have bugged skills, skills that don't work as described in the text and things that are changing overnight without any indication or forewarning like the series of ninja nerfs vehicles are going through. I'm with you on you should life with your choices, but if those choices are misinformed or baited and switched by CCP's influence breaking the 4th wall of New Eden's rules, all bets should be off if it's so drastic that you would have never made that choice to begin with since the outcome was altered. It's like buying an apple but it gets turned into an orange when you bite into it and the vender you bought it from tells you to deal with it. |
Cosgar
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:12:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i vote for: NO RESPEC ever Even if you have AR operation/sharpshooter/proficiency 5 and you log in the next day to find all your fits are invalid because your Gallente logi, along with all logis get restricted to sidearms and no forewarning from the devs? i don't run logi. i run the raven suit. Ar on lvl 3. scr on 5 with prof 4 which i use only in good squads and non pub matches. (using the auto variant of the scr, b/c the single shot is too op and it feels like cheating) usualy i run raven with exile ar, and some other bpo's. if it gets nerfed, which i doupt, so be it. I am agianst Respecs because i think you have to live with the consequences. If you screw up because you used a obviously broken tool, its your fault. If you screw up because you did not read, or did not understand the tooltip of a skill, its your fault. Choose wisely and live with the consequences. Eve pilots dont get to respec their skills every now and then. if a ship gets nerfed, like it happend to the drake recently, they have to live with it. I always keep thinking you run Gallente logi for some reason, my fault. But anyway, you're missing my point. If you invest your SP into something you should be rewarded for what it brings. But the cutoff is that we have bugged skills, skills that don't work as described in the text and things that are changing overnight without any indication or forewarning like the series of ninja nerfs vehicles are going through. I'm with you on you should life with your choices, but if those choices are misinformed or baited and switched by CCP's influence breaking the 4th wall of New Eden's rules, all bets should be off if it's so drastic that you would have never made that choice to begin with since the outcome was altered. It's like buying an apple but it gets turned into an orange when you bite into it and the vender you bought it from tells you to deal with it. see i agree with you to some point, BUT let me tell you a story. In Chromosome i loved the laser rifle. Then came uprising. I didn't jump into lasers just from the start because lasers were kewl in the last build. I looked at the stats first. i invested 1 lvl, which won't brake your legs, into it and saw the sight range etc. The changes led me to the point where i decided not to spec into lasers anymore. My point is: Don't jump into stuff just because it was good in the last build. Second. If the AR or the SCR get nerfed, or the new guns (Caldari, MinmaTard) prove to be superior, then its bad luck i guess. i hold about 1.5 mil sp on the side for such events. Why you ask? because thats what you do if you know that stuff may change. And if those 1.5 mil won't be enough well then its bad luck for me and i start to grind. Now you allready know that stuff may change over time. Harden up and prepare for it by saving SP or don't if you feel confident that your stuff won't get nerfed again Check my updated post. I have a gun that's bugged... in a FPS and devs saying it won't be fixed in the next major update. I got 1.5 million SP invested in it and it's more reliable if I swung it at someone. This is why you guys don't see me on anymore... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:15:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote: So just like AFK, the best way to play DUST is to not
Got it.
I'm so pissed off, I don't even want to AFK because it'll give them the satisfaction that there's one more person going towards their projected server turnout. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:DUST Fiend wrote: So just like AFK, the best way to play DUST is to not
Got it.
I'm so pissed off, I don't even want to AFK because it'll give them the satisfaction that there's one more person going towards their projected server turnout. I've never AFK'd because if I did I would quit this game. Despite my constant negativity around here, I would really like to see something become of this game. A few of you might remember back towards the beginning, even partway through, I was a CCP fanboy through and through, defending them through thick and thin. Yea, the times, they are a changin' I'm going to tell you the same thing I told Cat Merc: "The people on here that give CCP the most flak are the ones who care about this game the most." We went through beta, all the wipes, nerfs, everything and we're still here because we want Dust 514 to be something. You think I want to be on here bitching about a broken weapon? Hell no! I want to be in game shooting people in the face like the next guy, but I got a weapon that doesn't work, a suit that will probably get restricted to sidearms the next time I log in and I'm still waiting on a SP respec I petitioned for on the first day when people got theirs after petitioning at the last minute... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:44:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain? Addapt and overcome buttercup Laser nerf was in the patch notes, MD nerf wasn't and no info on bugs because they obviously didn't test it. Also, laser still gets kills, play with Jaden once in a while... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:57:00 -
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Donnerwerk wrote:Cosgar wrote:Donnerwerk wrote:i liked the laser rifle. got nerfed to the ground. do you see me complain? Addapt and overcome buttercup Laser nerf was in the patch notes, MD nerf wasn't and no info on bugs because they obviously didn't test it. Also, laser still gets kills, play with Jaden once in a while... ahh you're jaden k. will hit you up to form squads :) and lasers, if i ever meet them on the battlefield, get killed quickly. just close in and dont stand still. thats all you have to do to win 94.56% of the fight. (percentage is purely made up) My point is that you got forewarned about the laser and got a chance to say "Hey, I might not like this weapon anymore, maybe I'll try this instead..." I didn't get that, a lot of people didn't get that chance because the patch notes had more holes than a plot in a M Night Shyamalan movie. On top of that Uprising was incomplete because I'll be damned if a Dev actually tested the laser, MD, tanks, derpships and the HMG. Hell, I want to see them test these things right now and try to tell us with a straight face that they're perfectly balanced.
Also, there are still quit a few people out there that can put in work with a laser. I don't know how they do it, but they manage it somehow. Probably because their weapon is actually relaible.
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:03:00 -
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Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote:Something tells me that we're going to have more than a few "Logi's" crying for a repec in the near future... If it's all logis, I'm officially done with this game and sending getting a refund through Sony like everyone else has. If a stackable %35 shield efficiency bonus on one suit doesn't scream "Nerf me! Leave the others alone!" I don't know what does... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:13:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Daxxis KANNAH wrote:Buster Friently wrote:
Here's the problem. The forum whiners and doomsayers actually believe that they run CCP. Dust isn't designed by forumites, and thankfully so. A design choice, is by design, and therefore automatically what CCP wants. It's not your call. You aren't that important. Please leave and stop trying to turn Dust into COD and it's ilk.
Some will leave. Some will stay. Dust will survive. You guys REALLY have an inflated sense of your self worth, and btw, the validity of your input.
So they wanted Roadkill Rampage and Pot Shot Safari Shouldve put that in a Devblog That will be iterated out. I was referring to the debate about the design choice of not having respecs, and the debate around not having respecs. You see, bumper cars etc isn't a design choice. It is a manifestation of imbalances, mostly in the matchmaker. That's different than a design choice to make SP decisions meaningful. Ding! Ding! Ding! You just said the secret word!
When CCP said that matchmaking wasn't a priority, I knew it was going to come and bite them in the ass. Matchmaking isn't just an issue for newer players being stomped out by vets, it's an issue about balancing game mechanics.
Look at the Freedom MD last build for example. I used to crush people with that thing in pub matches because I had a prototype weapon with prof 5, going against people running militia and standard suits. In CBs, I had to quad stack CDMs just to have a fighting chance against other suits. That's just one weapon, imagine this with everything in the game. No, don't imagine it, it's a reality. Not having matchmaking ruined balance from the beginning. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:19:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:At one point nobody had ever ridden a bicycle. That did not mean A. Nobody wanted to ride one. B. It should not have been attempted. That has to be one of the worst and most random analogies I've ever seen.... All I'm saying is that the only thing to do in this game is shoot people in the face. Since the SP grind was increased without giving any real content in between, you have to literally spend months and months and months (less, if you open up your wallet) in order to play any other meaningful playstyles. New players have NO way of knowing how these will perform, hell, even vets are often left in the dark and forced to search through third party software to try and plan out builds that may very well be ripped apart with little notice. There is no meaning behind what you do. You shoot people. It's a lobby shooter. There are virtually NO mmo aspects that give this game anything fresh. The mechanics and graphics are basic and even subpar at times. The game modes are horrifically boring, and we've been playing them for over a year now. People acting like your build is "a choice that matters" are still caught in the lala land that CCPs admittedly small marketing devision has trapped you in. You dont understand the analogy because your mind is closed to the concept. You stating you have never played a fps like this as some kind of point about how CCP should just start doing things like a mainstream FPS backs the analogy. You have never seen it, its different ( remember know, my only stated opinion in this thread is anti constant respecs) and you are not ready or willing to try a new approach. Its not a bug, its not a glitch. Tell that to people that have to focus on fighting to controls more than the guy in front of him, die to getting stuck on terrain more than the guy shooting back at him, spend SP on bugged skills that don't work or don't do what the text dictates what they do, have guns that shoot ghost rounds, have to hard reset their PS3 wondering if this is the reset that's going to kill it... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:25:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:Cosgar wrote:Jin Robot wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Jin Robot wrote:At one point nobody had ever ridden a bicycle. That did not mean A. Nobody wanted to ride one. B. It should not have been attempted. That has to be one of the worst and most random analogies I've ever seen.... All I'm saying is that the only thing to do in this game is shoot people in the face. Since the SP grind was increased without giving any real content in between, you have to literally spend months and months and months (less, if you open up your wallet) in order to play any other meaningful playstyles. New players have NO way of knowing how these will perform, hell, even vets are often left in the dark and forced to search through third party software to try and plan out builds that may very well be ripped apart with little notice. There is no meaning behind what you do. You shoot people. It's a lobby shooter. There are virtually NO mmo aspects that give this game anything fresh. The mechanics and graphics are basic and even subpar at times. The game modes are horrifically boring, and we've been playing them for over a year now. People acting like your build is "a choice that matters" are still caught in the lala land that CCPs admittedly small marketing devision has trapped you in. You dont understand the analogy because your mind is closed to the concept. You stating you have never played a fps like this as some kind of point about how CCP should just start doing things like a mainstream FPS backs the analogy. You have never seen it, its different ( remember know, my only stated opinion in this thread is anti constant respecs) and you are not ready or willing to try a new approach. Its not a bug, its not a glitch. Tell that to people that have to focus on fighting to controls more than the guy in front of him, die to getting stuck on terrain more than the guy shooting back at him, spend SP on bugged skills that don't work or don't do what the text dictates what they do, have guns that shoot ghost rounds, have to hard reset their PS3 wondering if this is the reset that's going to kill it... Facepalm If you're still blindly buying a vision of the future when the here and now is still broken, I got a bridge to sell you... |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 18:58:00 -
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Daxxis KANNAH wrote:@Jin - But the game is free so you will never control that also if CCP is actually looking to grow their playerbase they shouldnt be just appealing to EVE-ites who want to play around in the shooter portion of the universe. And I am far from an FPS specialist but the responses from many seem happy to wait till kingdom come for this utopia and tell any dissenting voices where to go while others (read not trolls and whingers) spend many hours putting forth great suggestions. I've played EVE for 5 years and to be honest, I don't give a flying kitten who plays this game and who doesn't. I just want it to be fun, balanced, intense, successful, and not a CoD clone with a shade of chrome. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 22:03:00 -
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KingBabar wrote: In short: When this game gets factually released, (not technically) then I'm ok with no more respects.
You hit the nail on the head. |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 22:12:00 -
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Jin Robot wrote:CCP should have never allowed the optional respec. Give a brat an inch, they will cry for a mile. Bugged weapons, misleading skills that don't do as advertised, stealth nerfs SP sinks... is there any other way I can spell things out for you so you can understand? |
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Posted - 2013.06.13 22:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Cosgar wrote:Jin Robot wrote:CCP should have never allowed the optional respec. Give a brat an inch, they will cry for a mile. Bugged weapons, misleading skills that don't do as advertised, stealth nerfs SP sinks... is there any other way I can spell things out for you so you can understand? Probably not. Jin is convinced that his spreadsheet powers are 1337 and anyone who doesn't have Spreadhseet Master skilled to V is just S.O.L. Also, I LOVE how closed Beta vets know that this game is still in Beta Full release; my dropship You know what the funny part is? I actually used a spreadsheet and planned my SP allocation out 100% to where I wanted to be. If stuff actually worked as advertised, I wouldn't even want a respec. Hell, if Dust was held to the same standards as EVE, nobody would need a respec and the forums would be barren because we'd all be too busy in game, shooting eachother in the face with balanced weapons and terrain that doesn't try to swallow you whole. Tanks would be kicking ass and taking names, Dropships would be supporting their teams, heavies with an HMG would dominate inside their own optimal range, planatery conquest and FW would matter, newberries wouldn't be protostomped because there would be actual matchmaking... .... ....whoah, I just got lightheaded for a moment there.
Also, I agree with the PS4 point. Beta will never be over until Dust 514 is on the PS4. |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 04:45:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I'm still waiting to see a logical explanation for no respecs other than "EVE doesn't let you", "your choice matters", "no more respecs" or "cuz CCP says so" I'm on your side about respecs right now because Dust is still incomplete, but I got a serious question for you: Once we have all the racial weapons, suits, and vehicles, tutorials, a test lab mode to preview weapons and gear before you invest SP, and CCP stopped changing everything on a whim, would you be fine with there being no respecs? |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 05:36:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Umyo Anonops wrote:Why should there be no more respecs? I don't understand your mentality. Bringing flexibility and the options to try out different loadouts in an FPS is as important as allowing grass to grow with sunshine and water. That may be the case, but the New Eden universe and its three unwavering principles wouldn't allow for respecs. Adapt or die Don't use what you can't afford to lose Accept the permanent consequences of your choices What if you log in tomorrow and Nova Knives are reverted back to how they operated in Chrome along with -%33 damage and an extra 2 sec charge delay without any forewarning let alone an amendment in the 1.1 patch notes? Will you still be using those mantra after the 4th wall has been broken? |
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Posted - 2013.06.14 14:08:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:FatalFlaw V1 wrote:I was reading an E3 review on this game and they brought up that this game did not yet have a release date. I think people tend to forget this game is in open beta.
Respecs with major changes are probably warranted until "release." It released a month ago today on 5/14/2013 (they wanted the snazzy 5/14 release date) HAppy 1 month anniversary dust :p Dust 514 will forever be in beta until it moves to the PS4. |
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Posted - 2013.06.15 15:48:00 -
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If all the content were available, skills weren't bugged, and CCP didn't nerf things on a whim, do you thinks we would even be having this discussion? |
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Posted - 2013.06.15 18:29:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:CCP has already made up their minds on this. They made it clear there will be no more respecs.
No.
More.
Respecs.
According.
To.
CCP.
I can't understand why you keep pushing this. Why did they issue optional respecs in the first place again? Oh right, bugged and misleading skills, and fixes to SP sinks in the skill tree. Like that'll never happen again. |
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Posted - 2013.06.15 19:35:00 -
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I still can't believe people are arguing against respecs in an unfinished game. |
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