....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

Dice announced all of this stuff for a release in Oct and we can't even get patch notes for our next update....****, we can't even get a release date for the next update.

CCP, I'm trying but you guys are killing me out here. How are you guys going to keep up if you don't react to the community's pleas? BF4 is going to have a commander mode....where is ours? We are supposed to have all of these things at release but we still don't even have sights for our weapons.

I mean, seriously...what kind of fps shooter (AAA fps, at that) releases a game without sights?

Just ranting here...in a desperate plea for ccp to get their act together and fast.

BF4 will have 32 v 32 on next gen hardware and PC. Not possible on PS3.

As it is, DUST is running at almost max of the PS3's 512 MB, and it's not looking like that cuz the game isn't optimized fully yet. Frame rate is still a huge problem and until CCP fixes that, they won't raise the player count cuz that uses more RAM.

If DUST reaches on PS4 then yea.

CCP isn't experienced in making a FPS and they chose arguably the most complicated system to work with... the PS3.

Not a good combo.

It is VERY HARD. Nanite Injectors don't even work.

I'm an admitted supporter but some of the recent issues have been staggering. There are just so many core aspects that the game should have added at launch that are not here.

How does a game this complex not have a functional tutorial? Someone please tell me. New players are drowning out here. I cant tell you how many PSN friends i've tried to help into the game that have no idea what they're doing when they enter New Eden. Now we have a thread in the CPM forum detailing what a tutorial needs? Now? Seriously? We harped on this for months. Tell me i'm dreaming....

I know, i know...HTFU up right? Go play COD...blah, blah, blah. The game has less than 10,000 players on at a time when it has over 2M accounts....the retention is abysmal.

I'm still too angry from last nights disconnects to discuss my issues with PC here...just know that the issues there are completely unacceptable. The Mario Kart BS makes me embarrassed to play this game. As YDubbs said the MCC commander, bigger squads, bigger matches, command structure/chat, ability to follow corpmates into matches, lack of game modes, ally proximity chat, corp roles the list goes on and on.

I hate to use the "M word" here but for a game that supposedly employs MAG devs and acknowledges its MAG playerbase--you sure didnt do any research regarding what that game actually did right.

INDUSTRY, ECONOMY, MEANINGFUL EVE-DUST connection, MCC Commander, DRONES, all of this great content that was dangled in front of us, the carrot on the stick that has not been delivered... now E3 press releases for what? 6 people?(he said something about 6 people for EVR which was enough for the gathering...) without even a heads up to the ACTUAL player base... thousands of players get to hear second to 6 people at what felt like a rushed E3 presentation... i find this as a slap in the face... i can understand some content being held confidential in preperation for MAJOR presentations(FANFEST for example), but a SMALL history lesson + devblog content for people who sounded like they WERENT actual players... and if they WERE players, the history lesson probably wasnt necessary for ANYBODY who watched the fanfest feeds... the only REAL content delivered was the pending patch goals that nobody has told us ANYTHING about...

are you kidding me here? not to mention the other complaints about gathering feedback to give arbitrary and unrelated 'fixes' ... FREE clown cars that are stronger than REAL asset AV grenades... they need to get those bloody hover bikes released as free militia gear so they can banish clown cars to the realm of those who ACTUALLY invest in them... while still providing cheap transportation across the battlefield for heavies

Hey Mintchip some reactions and/or response please?

Its all on the horizon Buttercup.
We are definitely working on those things. :P Including, but not limited to, such things as Aim, Movement, Matchmaking, New player experiences. These things have been talked about across the forum and are being worked on. As for new features or the specifics on those fixes and the changes that are coming - can't be expressed at the moment but we are at the precipice of making that information known.

We want your feedback on specifics of the game, critical feedback on what is perceived as needing work. This is the stuff that we read and listen to and bring up in meetings. We are also the ones that are working on getting the developers to put into words all the things they are doing specifically, the nitty-gritty stuff that you guys can then dissect - colorfully.

We are changing our emphasis internally and we'll hopefully be telling you about that more in the near future. You may have already noticed some of the effects with more forum activity from blues. While it might not seem like much, what you're experiencing are the initial ripples.

CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip
Dust 514 Community Rep

....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

Dice announced all of this stuff for a release in Oct and we can't even get patch notes for our next update....****, we can't even get a release date for the next update.

CCP, I'm trying but you guys are killing me out here. How are you guys going to keep up if you don't react to the community's pleas? BF4 is going to have a commander mode....where is ours? We are supposed to have all of these things at release but we still don't even have sights for our weapons.

I mean, seriously...what kind of fps shooter (AAA fps, at that) releases a game without sights?

Just ranting here...in a desperate plea for ccp to get their act together and fast.

Guys, If I see one more logi just standing on hives and shooting without moving go 20-0, I'm gonna totally troll a thread with trolling goodneses.

EFING EFF EFFER!

32 v 32 on the PS4..... your insane if you think it will be that way on PS3, and if you think that dust wont have atleast 24 v 24 battles by the time it hits PS4 your also insane. Give it time man, its been ONE month since this patch came out......

BF4 will have 32 v 32 on next gen hardware and PC. Not possible on PS3.

As it is, DUST is running at almost max of the PS3's 512 MB, and it's not looking like that cuz the game isn't optimized fully yet. Frame rate is still a huge problem and until CCP fixes that, they won't raise the player count cuz that uses more RAM.

If DUST reaches on PS4 then yea.

CCP isn't experienced in making a FPS and they chose arguably the most complicated system to work with... the PS3.

Not a good combo.

BF4 will have 32 v 32 on next gen hardware and PC. Not possible on PS3.

As it is, DUST is running at almost max of the PS3's 512 MB, and it's not looking like that cuz the game isn't optimized fully yet. Frame rate is still a huge problem and until CCP fixes that, they won't raise the player count cuz that uses more RAM.

If DUST reaches on PS4 then yea.

CCP isn't experienced in making a FPS and they chose arguably the most complicated system to work with... the PS3.

Not a good combo.

Not to mention..releasing an fps with broken aiming mechanics.

I am closely reaching my tolerance apex point

Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay.

On 360 and PS3? Or just One, PS4 and PC?

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BF4 will be worn out old news within 6 months of release. Dust will retain members, grow, add new content and still be awesome two years after release.

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BF4 will be worn out old news within 6 months of release. Dust will retain members, grow, add new content and still be awesome two years after release.

I'm losing member activity on Dust now lol. When BF4 is released and planetside 2, dust is going to have a real problem on their hands as far as playerbase is concerned. If they get their acts together by then, then dust may weather the storm.

I do agree that BF4 will get dull after a while because pub matches can only entertain you but so much. But DICE usually releases DLCs with brand new maps and content so their playerbase will stay hooked until they release another sequel.

and tehre is always clan matches

where to start. bacon bacon bacon
lack there of dev response with the player base with upcoming patches, and even stealth patch, sluggish response to pay to pay items(yes im looking at you fused nades and bacon), sluggish responses to core mechanics being broken with video proof, clumsy and half-handed additions( im looking at you PC) , low to zero reward for doing anything in matches, serious imbalances(bacon vs fake bacon, shield vs armor HAVs, LLAV vs AV, shield vs armor for infantry(might be fix soon)) lack luster updates that resets to old fixed problems with new ones(looking at you uprising), zero road map given to players.
still no promises kept.
EVE-dust connection, laughable at best unless you are bacon which its totally not funny.
new tactical uses for HAV-basically remove from gameplay
lower cost for DS- same cost but buffed AV for some reason
training for new players- its a joke and they are now just worse off then before.
skill tree-welp it is pretty but forces more skills points then before so worse then before

bacon bacon bacon

there is more but I just don't care to name more. its just end up as an ok shooter when there are great shooters out there. so when does Disney take over and give it a new paint job and market it for kid's bacon because that pretty much would be the only thing to save the sinking ship

bacon bacon bacon just so people read this, how many bacons is there including the last one.

Uprising kinda killed it for me

Things you do have an impact? Are you high? Have you even played the game at all?

I mean, I hope you people are just deluded and have actually played the PC version, because I honestly feel sorry for you all if you haven't even played it on PC and are expecting it to be any better on the PS4.

A. My outfit, The Enclave, does a mass air drop on a base.
B. The enemies attempt to zerg us off the capture point for about 5 minutes, give or take
C. EVERYONE leaves to go ghost-cap some empty base somewhere else

If we have too many victories, the other outfits will just jump to other continents en masse to go stomp on randoms.

Notice also that that video was not long after a Game Update, which bring people back for short periods before they all leave again. My outfit managed to get 128 players online for a full 4 platoons of us on the day of the Game Update that brought out the lattice system, the feature that promised to finally bring the massive battles we all started playing for into the game.

4 days later we could barely muster up 80, and I could long in as a non-premium member and switch continents during prime-time without even hitting a queue. Kinda hard to have fun when every fight ends in the Vanu rolling in and rolfstomping everyone in the retardedly OP ZOE MAXes* that it took SOE forever to fix, and people STILL preferred to go cap empty bases for easy XP rather than fight.

*Terran Republic MAX suits get an ability that locks them to the ground and increases their RoF and reload speed. New Conglomerate get a riot shield that deflects all damage that hits it at the cost of not being able to use your weapons. The Vanu Sovereignty got the Zealot Overdrive Engine, which allowed them to move as fast as normal infantry, increased the damage their shots did, and only had a minor penalty to hp as a downside. Clearly SOE is the superior company when it comes to game balance.

Uprising kinda killed it for me

How is anything hard when the game is free. Many forget this key principal.

Take a chill pill and relax.

shoot mercs in the face if your pissed

How is anything hard when the game is free. Many forget this key principal.

Take a chill pill and relax.

shoot mercs in the face if your pissed

The thing is 500 player base would still survive. Look at MAG.

....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

Dice announced all of this stuff for a release in Oct and we can't even get patch notes for our next update....****, we can't even get a release date for the next update.

CCP, I'm trying but you guys are killing me out here. How are you guys going to keep up if you don't react to the community's pleas? BF4 is going to have a commander mode....where is ours? We are supposed to have all of these things at release but we still don't even have sights for our weapons.

I mean, seriously...what kind of fps shooter (AAA fps, at that) releases a game without sights?

Just ranting here...in a desperate plea for ccp to get their act together and fast.

lol, you think that Dust's development is rushed? After all of this time?

Nonsence look on MAG its posible more that 32x32, on MAG you had 256scale battles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAG_%28video_game%29

No I do think they are slow on getting content out but they do have a pretty small team working on Dust. They are currently working on like 4 different projects ATM. Eve, Dust, World of Darkness, and EVR.

Feedback appreciated

Here is what I think

....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

Dice announced all of this stuff for a release in Oct and we can't even get patch notes for our next update....****, we can't even get a release date for the next update.

CCP, I'm trying but you guys are killing me out here. How are you guys going to keep up if you don't react to the community's pleas? BF4 is going to have a commander mode....where is ours? We are supposed to have all of these things at release but we still don't even have sights for our weapons.

I mean, seriously...what kind of fps shooter (AAA fps, at that) releases a game without sights?

Just ranting here...in a desperate plea for ccp to get their act together and fast.

Dust isn't a AAA title
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Its the lack of communication that has me worried. Usually doesnt mean good things when ccp goes silent.

I'd give it a fair B. I don't think Freemiums can go much higher, considering they're pretty much all based on grind and cash-shop baiting.

Yeah the promises are too far between. Waiting to see if 1,2 changes anything

....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

Dice announced all of this stuff for a release in Oct and we can't even get patch notes for our next update....****, we can't even get a release date for the next update.

CCP, I'm trying but you guys are killing me out here. How are you guys going to keep up if you don't react to the community's pleas? BF4 is going to have a commander mode....where is ours? We are supposed to have all of these things at release but we still don't even have sights for our weapons.

I mean, seriously...what kind of fps shooter (AAA fps, at that) releases a game without sights?

Just ranting here...in a desperate plea for ccp to get their act together and fast.

So go away. Nobody likes you.

....to keep fighting for this game and to get others to play. Dice announced that bf4 will have 32v32 gameplay. Where is dust's 24v24?? One other thing that I was trying to pitch to people is that dust will have 24v24 battles...everyone else was 12v12 or under.

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Well, if people liking you is the only reason to stick around then why are you still here? I'm fond of Dubbs.

It's not like your posts are ever constructive and you never even make a valid point, or attempt to make one. Your usual posts are just as useful at the one I quoted now. About as useful as a poop flavored popsicle.

Like it or not Dubbs has a valid point of concern. It's not easy to keep people interested and dedicated to Dust when it's a mediocre shooter at best and there's not even a release date for an update that could *possibly* make a *few* things better. Dust has nothing special going for it other than the usual gimmicks that people get caught up on, being hired as mercs, serving a purpose for EVE, and so on... not even things that really change the actual gameplay which is where the game lacks the most.

Hopefully CCP can turn Dust into a good shooter, but I'm not going to hold my breath over it.. especially not while I have other shooters to play.

Edit: Right after posting this I came across http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/06/uprising-1.2-and-beyond

FACE IT, CCP got your freakin money, and didnt deliver the freakin product.