Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:00:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:
You just described 99% of the player base.
the problem,.? Like I said, the best players dont need to crutch there rank, the ones that do, well,.. to bad for them,. Let the ELO sort us out. The problems is that Dust is not (well ,not supposed to be) a run of the mill shooter. Different gear, tactics, roles means that it's not as simple as run & shoot.
It doesn't matter, he's right, all you need is an ELO system. If someone is wearing proto and 10m SP but is a total garbage player then he will sit in amongst the lower end crowd because he's not a threat to anyone, even the militia geared players. If someone is wearing militia and has 1m SP but is some sort of FPS Superman then he'll climb the ladder until he meets people who can give him a good match (either through skill or gear, it doesn't matter). The proto equipped FPS master will sit at the top of the tree.
So Tl:dr you don't need to differentiate WHY a player is kicking ass or not, an ELO system will agnostically account for it. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 04:20:00 -
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Anita Hardone wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:
You just described 99% of the player base.
the problem,.? Like I said, the best players dont need to crutch there rank, the ones that do, well,.. to bad for them,. Let the ELO sort us out. The problems is that Dust is not (well ,not supposed to be) a run of the mill shooter. Different gear, tactics, roles means that it's not as simple as run & shoot. It doesn't matter, he's right, all you need is an ELO system. If someone is wearing proto and 10m SP but is a total garbage player then he will sit in amongst the lower end crowd because he's not a threat to anyone, even the militia geared players. If someone is wearing militia and has 1m SP but is some sort of FPS Superman then he'll climb the ladder until he meets people who can give him a good match (either through skill or gear, it doesn't matter). The proto equipped FPS master will sit at the top of the tree. So Tl:dr you don't need to differentiate WHY a player is kicking ass or not, an ELO system will agnostically account for it. ELO pretty much works the same as what im describing. But what im describing takes everything into account for a composite score that constantly change. It can change rapidly or very slowly.
ELO by its very nature includes everything about a player because it is only concerned with one thing, the result, your success rate.
The only addition to ELO you would need is a slight modifier based on gear meta level. Otherwise with pure ELO if you decided to take off your proto-gear to earn/save ISK then you'd be outside your overall "ranking" bracket and in over your head. It would take too many matches to readjust, same with when you put it back on.
So it just needs to be pure ELO*(Small_Gear_Meta_Adjustment) |