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Acezero 44
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Posted - 2013.06.13 01:57:00 -
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ELO match maker, based on who you kill/die to. not win ratio, or anything else,.
everyone starts at 1000, die -1, kill +1.. done
if you kill someone with 500, and you have 2000, its only a + 0.3, if you die to them its a - 10 and so on.
this is all just simple number ratio's to help one understand it,. its a concept from chess rankings,. and it works well in shooters. |
Acezero 44
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:08:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:ELO match maker, based on who you kill/die to. not win ratio, or anything else,.
everyone starts at 1000, die -1, kill +1.. done
if you kill someone with 500, and you have 2000, its only a + 0.3, if you die to them its a - 10 and so on.
this is all just simple number ratio's to help one understand it,. its a concept from chess rankings,. and it works well in shooters. How many of those shooters had a gear disparity?
it dont matter, I can smoke a full team of proto nubs,. with a dragon fly an toxins,. not sayin im good,. cus the "good" players bend me over, no matter what there using. the game just needs a ELO,. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:22:00 -
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i dont get the whole gear thing,..
Say in concept, at the vary top of the match maker, No seriously look up, up more,..
Ok so who's up here? wait for it,.. /GASP,.
"the best players in the best gear"
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
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Posted - 2013.06.13 02:48:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:i dont get the whole gear thing,..
Say in concept, at the vary top of the match maker, No seriously look up, up more,..
Ok so who's up here? wait for it,.. /GASP,.
"the best players in the best gear"
Let's assume that player is currently an AR spec'd Assault. What happens if that player decides to spec into AV? The guy could just keep grinding in his AR set until he has enough sp, but this discourages players from trying out different builds and roles. Your idea also encourages people to play in prototype gear 24/7. Also, and this is the most important part, how the hell do you even BEGIN to balance a game when people have such a large gear disparity?
everyone has a crutch,. the good players have more. =)
if someone fears there own rank,. then the same players fear there own k/d ratio right now.. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:07:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:i dont get the whole gear thing,..
Say in concept, at the vary top of the match maker, No seriously look up, up more,..
Ok so who's up here? wait for it,.. /GASP,.
"the best players in the best gear"
Let's assume that player is currently an AR spec'd Assault. What happens if that player decides to spec into AV? The guy could just keep grinding in his AR set until he has enough sp, but this discourages players from trying out different builds and roles. Your idea also encourages people to play in prototype gear 24/7. Also, and this is the most important part, how the hell do you even BEGIN to balance a game when people have such a large gear disparity? everyone has a crutch,. the good players have more. =) if someone fears there own rank,. then the same players fear there own k/d ratio right now.. Hey that's great and all, but how about you actually address what I wrote.
but i did,. /shrug
your saying this player has built a crutch with skill/gear, so he is scared to try new things, and drop in rating..
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Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:21:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:
You just described 99% of the player base.
the problem,.?
Like I said, the best players dont need to crutch there rank, the ones that do, well,.. to bad for them,. Let the ELO sort us out. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:39:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:
You just described 99% of the player base.
the problem,.? Like I said, the best players dont need to crutch there rank, the ones that do, well,.. to bad for them,. Let the ELO sort us out. The problems is that Dust is not (well ,not supposed to be) a run of the mill shooter. Different gear, tactics, roles means that it's not as simple as run & shoot.
I think we are on topic still, so here I go..
Roles can be left to all the other various turf wars Dust should fix up and add more to. Squads in a match maker will just rise faster in rank, roles always work in the squad crutch, <---- love this term btw.
I play scout, 100% of the time. I feel my role,. no problems here.
I see dust as MMO bg style pvp,. not a shooter, so lets delete this run of the mill shooter thing.. |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
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Posted - 2013.06.13 03:57:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:Acezero 44 wrote:Abron Garr wrote:
You just described 99% of the player base.
the problem,.? Like I said, the best players dont need to crutch there rank, the ones that do, well,.. to bad for them,. Let the ELO sort us out. The problems is that Dust is not (well ,not supposed to be) a run of the mill shooter. Different gear, tactics, roles means that it's not as simple as run & shoot. I think we are on topic still, so here I go.. Roles can be left to all the other various turf wars Dust should fix up and add more to. Squads in a match maker will just rise faster in rank, roles always work in the squad crutch, <---- love this term btw. I play scout, 100% of the time. I feel my role,. no problems here. I see dust as MMO bg style pvp,. not a shooter, so lets delete this run of the mill shooter thing.. No offense, but that could not have been more painful to read, but I think I know what you're saying. I just don't think ELO is adequate for Dust.
none taken, not sure what I was trying to type as I read it in quote,
last post here, so just gonna say it,. game needs a match maker, if a ELO can work in league of legends, then it can work here. |
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