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Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:12:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:[quote=Doc Noah] That's a bridge too far bro. High-end vehicles cost a million+ ISK. They should be returned to the player that made that investment if it wasn't destroyed in the match. Whoever stole it most likely wouldn't be able to deploy it again anyway and there's no market to sell these items. Until we get the latter, vehicle owners should get their vehicle back.
Hardly, if the owner can't keep it they don't deserve it. As for price, what the hell does that have to do with whether they should keep it?
Its not like the police are going to come and confiscate it and give it back to the original (incompetent) owner Actions have consequences. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 06:45:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:Well look at it this way, your proto dropsuit can cost a million+ ISK, but nobody can hack it and steal it. But million+ ISK vehicles CAN. Now, its fun to hack stuff, so hacking vehicles is in the game. But its fair to at least return it to the owner if it doesn't get blown up during the match.
Infantry-only players don't have to worry about their suits getting hacked. But vehicle-specced players have to worry about it every match. Try to put yourself in the other guy's shoes.
Thats not a very logical argument. It seems to center around it not being fair.
well, if you leave your car unlocked in rl it could well get stolen. On the other hand, unless you are mugged the chances of losing your shirt is a lot less.
Its sort of called, 'reality'.
And we can argue all you like over the definition of 'reality' in a sci-fi, however physics and human nature don't suddenly change. Also, if you lose ****, its stays lost., and doesn't magically materialize next to you the next day. |
Karazantor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.11 07:10:00 -
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Esper Shadows wrote:[quote=Esper Shadows]
This is a video game dude. Its not real. CCP makes the rules. So I'll happily ignore this argument. I'll just say that where the ISK is getting invested matters. People who run infantry are putting millions into their dropsuits and they get mad whenever they get killed, especially if the enemy is using cheap tactics. But they don't have to worry about their suit getting stolen (by blueberries or reds).
Players who run vehicles get upset not only when their ride gets blown up, but especially when some blueberry jacks their ride or a red hacks it. Naturally, we put lots of ISK into our vehicles just like proto infantry does. So we appreciate having some code in the game that returns our expensive vehicles if we lose them during the game but they survive the match. Its a way of balancing the inherent in-game risks involved with fielding a vehicle (dumb blueberries and hacks) that proto suits don't have to deal with.
Put yourself in the other guy's shoes.
I've been in 'the other guy's shoes'. I have had a tank stolen.
No, I didn't like it.
Yes, it was my fault
Yes, it was expensive.
Yes, It should happen.
If you think reality doesn't matter, you may not be aware that one of the selling points of CCP games is supposed to be 'realism' and consequences. It doesn't matter how much you hate this, it won't change.
A large portion of the fanbase of both takes great pleasure in 'harvesting tears' which includes destroying and stealing others things. The devs are known to be amongst this fanbase.
Despite not particularly caring for 'harvesting tears' I do strongly believe that realism matters, or I would be playing WoW or PS2 as of yesterday.
So good luck with this particular crusade, but it won't change, and I for one am extremely grateful for that fact. Nothing else for me to say on the subject. |
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