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EternalRMG
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:04:00 -
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Many people will say that this is BS , that with all those F2P/MMO games comming to PS4 Dust has no chance people say this because of the current state of the game and the inability of CCP to get things done right. Well i think that the main reason beacuse everything is so "bad" is because everything CCP is doind with this game is new for them. This is the first console game they make The first FPS they make and the first game with Unreal engine
These 3 factors combined lead to the game we currently have But when PS4 arrives CCP will be able to use an Engie that theyre used to use im talking about carbon. CCP has a lot of experience with this engine because this is the one theyve been using for eve for a long time. As soon as they get the chance to use the engine most bugs will be gone, Everything will be more balanced and game design and almost everything will work better And the only reason because they havent been using carbon is because the PS3 cant handle it
What kind of advantages will carbon bring: 1. CCP will be more confortable using Carbon, not like Unreal ,an engine that they had learn how to use WHILE creating the current game (for those who dont know this game had 3 1/2 years of progress done in Carbon and everything ran smoothly until they tried to bring it to PS3, where everything broke and they had to start from the Scratch)
2 They will have more Potential DEVS beacause they will be able to use some EVE devs to help with coding and stuff
3 There will be A LOT more interaction between EVE and DUST because using the same engine for 2 games makes them more campatible that using different ones dont you think?
4 They might be able to bring back some awesome featurs they had in they carbon Alpha test (like fighter) and adapt them to the game a lot easier
I still belive that Dust WILL BE an awesome game and i trust CCP to pull it off but for that to happen they need less "Nerf this, nerf that, they killed my vehicle with AV weapons NERF them " , QQ and need more FEEDBACK and in this feedback you need to think ive youre using certain things the way you should or not, and if they weapon that killed you was designed to kill you, BEFORE posting |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:06:00 -
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I very highly doubt they would go back to carbon... It'd literally be like making the game all over again. Hell they probably wouldn't even upgrade this game to the Ps4 when it came to it because it would cost way too much money.
Also don't expect dust to be ported to the ps4 for abut 2-3 years at least. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
130
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:06:00 -
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I know its your beliefs and all but wow lolno. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2499
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:07:00 -
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If Ps4 is Dust's salvation then you're admitting this game will suck for the next 2-4 years. Lol |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
119
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:07:00 -
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I seriously hope they use Carbon since all of the gameplay and screen shots looked far better. Upolished sure but it had a more serious feel to its aesthetic.
Go to CARBON CCP! Bring back the under slung grenade launchers |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:08:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I seriously hope they use Carbon since all of the gameplay and screen shots looked far better. Upolished sure but it had a more serious feel to its aesthetic.
Go to CARBON CCP! Bring back the under slung grenade launchers Read my post above to see why carbon won't be used for dust on ps4. |
Kane Fyea
DUST University Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:10:00 -
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Also unreal engine 3 is one of the easiest engines to make games on consoles. Also it's a lot more optimized then carbon engine. |
EternalRMG
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
249
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:10:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:If Ps4 is Dust's salvation then you're admitting this game will suck for the next 2-4 years. Lol I dont say it sucks but i admit that this game MIGHT die Soon(TM) if they dont do something |
Frost LightBringer
Terran Core Energy
2
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:51:00 -
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+1 |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers EoN.
303
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Posted - 2013.06.11 00:59:00 -
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We can always hope!
Cause clearly they can't get this game running on the PS3. |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
928
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:17:00 -
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I believe EvE uses an engine called Trinity. Carbon was built specifically for dust. I agree with your general sentiment though. |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
358
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:33:00 -
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I think CCP should give cryengine a go instead of unreal. |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:40:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:I think CCP should give cryengine a go instead of unreal.
Hell yeah, I'd never look back |
DoomLead
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
21
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:42:00 -
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in the meantime they should just and hire all programmers of the now bankrupt times gate studio and reskin Section 8 prejudice into dust 514. seeing as which they tried to make dust 514 a spiritual successor to the section 8 game anyway don't believe me watch this trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j_t_HfLSBs
and then go watch dust 514 trailer again |
RoundEy3
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
61
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Posted - 2013.06.13 16:55:00 -
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To OP:
I just look forward to the day when there is some official information that any such advancements will be made.
Once the time, resources, and the overall direction of DUST's production is said to go that way that means it WILL continue to evolve and improve.
I think that is what many people would like to see. Just the acknowledgement that DUST, the team, and resources behind it are going to make the big leap into the new generation. I think once that can be confirmed the comfort factor that people will have with putting time and money into this game will be greatly increased. I know mine would. |
Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
181
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:18:00 -
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If CCP were even to port to PS4 right away (doubtful) they would still want cross connectivity between PS4 and PS3 for a couple years at least. Wouldn't that mean they couldn't switch to their other engine? Or can you run the same game on 2 systems with 2 different engines and have them connected? |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1899
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Posted - 2013.06.13 17:20:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:Many people will say that this is BS , that with all those F2P/MMO games comming to PS4 Dust has no chance people say this because of the current state of the game and the inability of CCP to get things done right. Well i think that the main reason beacuse everything is so "bad" is because everything CCP is doind with this game is new for them. This is the first console game they make The first FPS they make and the first game with Unreal engine
These 3 factors combined lead to the game we currently have But when PS4 arrives CCP will be able to use an Engie that theyre used to use im talking about carbon. CCP has a lot of experience with this engine because this is the one theyve been using for eve for a long time. As soon as they get the chance to use the engine most bugs will be gone, Everything will be more balanced and game design and almost everything will work better And the only reason because they havent been using carbon is because the PS3 cant handle it
What kind of advantages will carbon bring: 1. CCP will be more confortable using Carbon, not like Unreal ,an engine that they had learn how to use WHILE creating the current game (for those who dont know this game had 3 1/2 years of progress done in Carbon and everything ran smoothly until they tried to bring it to PS3, where everything broke and they had to start from the Scratch)
2 They will have more Potential DEVS beacause they will be able to use some EVE devs to help with coding and stuff
3 There will be A LOT more interaction between EVE and DUST because using the same engine for 2 games makes them more campatible that using different ones dont you think?
4 They might be able to bring back some awesome featurs they had in they carbon Alpha test (like fighter) and adapt them to the game a lot easier
I still belive that Dust WILL BE an awesome game and i trust CCP to pull it off but for that to happen they need less "Nerf this, nerf that, they killed my vehicle with AV weapons NERF them " , QQ and need more FEEDBACK and in this feedback you need to think ive youre using certain things the way you should or not, and if they weapon that killed you was designed to kill you, BEFORE posting Again, you don't "change engines".
Moving to the Unreal Engine required them throwing out nearly everything they already had, as it does with any engine change. This isn't some simple process you can just undertake or reverse at the drop of a hat. |
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