CCP f**ked up
Honestly F**k PC

Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.

Timer fights? Really?

Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.

Timer fights? Really?

It isn't a timer it's a schedule. Would you prefer that people just up and randomly attacked your district with no warning? Actually maybe that would be kinda fun.

Some of the most entertaining PC matches were when we had one right after the other. A novel way to deal Planetary Conquest would allow the attacker (if victorious) to press the attack. Maybe this takes place in a different set of terrain or maybe it just respawns the match again, but making it take 2 to 3 days to take a district is just bad.

You have to plan out for two to three days just to take on location. This is part of what makes PC a job. The other side of the coin is the same organization being able to attack over, and over, and over after successful defenses. Maybe put in a cool down timer for failed attacks.

The ability to continue the attack straight into the next battle sounds like a good idea. If the attacker wins battle 1 then give them the choice to regroup, fight in 24 hours time, or continue immediately. 2-3 battles and less than an hour and it is over and they can immediately flip the clock necessitating a cool down period.

Or maybe the problem with PC was everyone stretching themselves too thin. Seems more like burn out is an issue more than anything else. Not a shock since only a small percentage of players are participating.

Also, maybe stacking your team so theres no real competition sort of hurt Imps specifically. The idea of a smaller elite corp that "cant" lose is cool and all. But yes, you are going to win your fights and then on the flip side, you cant really hold a lot of ground (without burnout quickly) so winning also becomes pointless.

Not really burnout... we were rarely ever attacked. Noone wanted to waste the clones on attacking us. So we attacked out and sold the districts behind us. The burnout is from the bad gameplay of Dust in general. Watching other FPS games now everytime I see a little hill my first thought it....ooooopp gotta go around that otherwise I will get stuck. But then I remember oh yea other FPS games dont have that problem. DOH

Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished.

Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*.

In the words of --redacted--:


Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**.

*not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset
**certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change

Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback.

Please STFU....forever.

Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback.

Please STFU....forever.

Yeah, we actually made sure to give our guys several day breaks from PC to minimize the burnout and would rotate in new people as well.

We also were very careful not to overlap timers and sold off any excess districts. Funny thing is we never wanted land to begin with. We were always hoping for a legit way to just play pure mercs and let others play clone farmer and empire maker. The only issue with that is CCP made it almost financially impossible.

We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober, the bashing of Cronos, and removal of STB from Meildolf demonstrated, but in the end just showing up for the same match multiple days at the same hour just gets old. The only progression you see is clones ticking down on a map in a fight for a district.

We've had our fun, got paid to bash, bashed some stuff for fun, and now it's time to move on.

You must not like your teeth much hooc er

Dust 514 corps shouldn't even own districts and planets, that is what EVE corps should be doing. PC should be open to everyone, via bulletin board style menu where you can see all available contract offers from EVE corps. Either single mercs or entire merc corps can be hired. The longer you work for a EVE corp, could come with higher pay/higher rewards.

The way they are doing it now is so dumb. Also they need to streamline the battle process. Why do defenders get to choose when they can or can't be attacked? An army shows up at your front door and you can just say, "oh sorry we don't want to fight right now, please come back later". Whenever a district changes hands, there should be a protection period, say 48 hours or however long, where it can't be attacked. After the protection period is over, it's fair game at any hour of the day. After a failed/successful battle, it goes back into protection period. That would be much better.

Did this really happen?

That's hilarious!

Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober?
Corporate backstabbing at its best!

Did this really happen?

That's hilarious!

Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober?
Corporate backstabbing at its best!

Honestly, idc what corp you are in. I just know who the good players are by playing with/against them and i also know who the crap players are from playing with/against them. I judge them by what they use and how they play.

I closed the video after seeing some people get 3 shotted with a broke ass weapon. It might as well of been a pub match.

Did this really happen?

That's hilarious!

Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober?
Corporate backstabbing at its best!

What's the asking price per district?

Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.

Timer fights? Really?

Dust 514 corps shouldn't even own districts and planets, that is what EVE corps should be doing. PC should be open to everyone, via bulletin board style menu where you can see all available contract offers from EVE corps. Either single mercs or entire merc corps can be hired. The longer you work for a EVE corp, could come with higher pay/higher rewards.

The way they are doing it now is so dumb. Also they need to streamline the battle process. Why do defenders get to choose when they can or can't be attacked? An army shows up at your front door and you can just say, "oh sorry we don't want to fight right now, please come back later". Whenever a district changes hands, there should be a protection period, say 48 hours or however long, where it can't be attacked. After the protection period is over, it's fair game at any hour of the day. After a failed/successful battle, it goes back into protection period. That would be much better.

So basically you want Eve to control everything, and us to play peons and nothing but?

No thanks.

So basically you want Eve to control everything, and us to play peons and nothing but?

No thanks.

Lets take the one universally hated thing in EVE, and replicate it in Dust....

I'm not sure how not using timers would be considered fun? What would be more fun, making sure you had 16 players on at a time 23/7? The timers give players a 24 hour notice so teams are easily formed and players know to set that time aside if they want to play. To me timers have the opposite effect of player burn out, it allows our team to live their lives and do other things and tells them exactly what time they need to log in to fight in the wars that they enjoy.

As for Kains Idea on pressing the attack, the drawback to it is it will cause a cascade effect if that corp was being attacked on a timer set an hour after the previous one. While it may prove to be a plus for a corp who plans to hold no land, it would prove catastrophic for entities that do.

I'm not sure how not using timers would be considered fun? What would be more fun, making sure you had 16 players on at a time 23/7? The timers give players a 24 hour notice so teams are easily formed and players know to set that time aside if they want to play. To me timers have the opposite effect of player burn out, it allows our team to live their lives and do other things and tells them exactly what time they need to log in to fight in the wars that they enjoy.

As for Kains Idea on pressing the attack, the drawback to it is it will cause a cascade effect if that corp was being attacked on a timer set an hour after the previous one. While it may prove to be a plus for a corp who plans to hold no land, it would prove catastrophic for entities that do.

Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished.

Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*.

In the words of --redacted--:


Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**.

*not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset
**certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change

Did this really happen?

That's hilarious!

Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober?
Corporate backstabbing at its best!

Thats what it means to be a merc so yea, get used to it. If you want deeper logistical control of the game play EVE

Actually what it would do is force losses to be punished much more severely then they currently are. Right now you have to fight the same district 3-4 days just to take it.

I think it's fine as is. Gives the defender a chance to get their act together.

Eh, I understand what ya mean. If SI wasn't hiding behind a timer TP would have them wiped off the map in a week tops.

The real problem with not being able to press an attack is that it makes tactics that involve not showing up to fight viable. If you don't show up to defend you should loose your district pure and simple. If you don't have the manpower to defend the land you've grabbed and you won't fight to defend it then that's on you.

The real problem with not being able to press an attack is that it makes tactics that involve not showing up to fight viable. If you don't show up to defend you should loose your district pure and simple. If you don't have the manpower to defend the land you've grabbed and you won't fight to defend it then that's on you.

Do you even know what a mercenary is? Because we are supposed to be mercs......which currently we are not.

Why in fucks name would we pay NF to remove ur alliance when we are capable of doing it ourselves with ease?

swear these forums are growing to be more pathetic by the day.

Orion dumbass #1: **** EoN is smashing us in Tartatven.......im sure they will spend ISK to hire NF to smash us when we are already losing every fight to them!

Orion dumbass #2: IKR i mean, they are winning vs us so CLEARLY they need to hire help

Orion dumbass #3: duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddeeeee..............................totally.


#DustForumLogic

That's a bit harsh don't you think.

You may not have payed NF to remove our alliance (and I never said you did, I said "worked with/hired", which means either/or), but you Definitely worked with them to do it.
I was there .. in almost every battle half of EoN's team was made up of NF members.

LOOOOOOL we never fielded NF ringers in our war with cronos
ive been there in most vs yall and i think u got NF confused with SI and ur corps