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Kuvakei's Speaker
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:34:00 -
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Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished.
Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*.
In the words of Kane Spero:
Kane Spero wrote: CCP f**ked up Honestly F**k PC
Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**.
*not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset **certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change |
The legend345
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:37:00 -
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I got 5 isk in my pocket ILL TAKE THEM ALL. NPC CORPS ARE COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:38:00 -
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*Puts on his cap and walks out the door*
Everyone I wanted to fight was either kicked out of PC or already quit. This just isn't fun.
Good luck to all the rest of the corps/alliance. We'll ring if you want us but we're pretty much done with this crap game until improvements are made.
Even if they fix things there's no telling when CCP will "update" again and **** it up all over again. Can't trust this company.
DCUO has been quiet a bit of fun ;) |
Kalante Schiffer
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
309
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:40:00 -
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the lag in PC is the thing that ruins it. and other stuff. chromosome was better. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
437
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:40:00 -
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Hmm... I'll get back to ya once Dust 514 becomes half decent and when its fun to fight for something. Right now this game is so boring I don't even feel like AFK'ing. /me looks at Planetside 2 |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:41:00 -
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Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.
Timer fights? Really? |
Kuvakei's Speaker
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:42:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.
Timer fights? Really?
Today's dodgefest, tomorrow! What could go wrong? Free implants courtesy of the Master for anyone who takes up this offer. |
BLAZ3 X
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
56
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:49:00 -
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see you on DCUO |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
258
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:14:00 -
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Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.
Timer fights? Really? It isn't a timer it's a schedule. Would you prefer that people just up and randomly attacked your district with no warning? Actually maybe that would be kinda fun. |
Telcontar Dunedain
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:17:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Really unclear why CCP thought PC would be fun.
Timer fights? Really? It isn't a timer it's a schedule. Would you prefer that people just up and randomly attacked your district with no warning? Actually maybe that would be kinda fun.
There are two mechanisms in current PC.
There is a "window" ie you can only attack at the defenders time of choosing.
There is also a "timer" ie you can then only have an actual fight 24ish hours later.
Having both makes its pretty awful.
Some raiding mechanics for instant attacks would be pretty fun wouldn't they? (suggested that months ago fwiw) |
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KingBabar
The-Butterfly-Effect
793
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:41:00 -
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Since its sorta hard to attack and secure a district, being a 1 man corp and all, the natural question is:
How much?
And believe it or not, I'm serious... |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1572
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:46:00 -
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Some of the most entertaining PC matches were when we had one right after the other. A novel way to deal Planetary Conquest would allow the attacker (if victorious) to press the attack. Maybe this takes place in a different set of terrain or maybe it just respawns the match again, but making it take 2 to 3 days to take a district is just bad.
You have to plan out for two to three days just to take on location. This is part of what makes PC a job. The other side of the coin is the same organization being able to attack over, and over, and over after successful defenses. Maybe put in a cool down timer for failed attacks. |
A'Real Fury
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.10 19:55:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Some of the most entertaining PC matches were when we had one right after the other. A novel way to deal Planetary Conquest would allow the attacker (if victorious) to press the attack. Maybe this takes place in a different set of terrain or maybe it just respawns the match again, but making it take 2 to 3 days to take a district is just bad.
You have to plan out for two to three days just to take on location. This is part of what makes PC a job. The other side of the coin is the same organization being able to attack over, and over, and over after successful defenses. Maybe put in a cool down timer for failed attacks.
The ability to continue the attack straight into the next battle sounds like a good idea. If the attacker wins battle 1 then give them the choice to regroup, fight in 24 hours time, or continue immediately. 2-3 battles and less than an hour and it is over and they can immediately flip the clock necessitating a cool down period. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:07:00 -
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Or maybe the problem with PC was everyone stretching themselves too thin. Seems more like burn out is an issue more than anything else. Not a shock since only a small percentage of players are participating.
Also, maybe stacking your team so theres no real competition sort of hurt Imps specifically. The idea of a smaller elite corp that "cant" lose is cool and all. But yes, you are going to win your fights and then on the flip side, you cant really hold a lot of ground (without burnout quickly) so winning also becomes pointless. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:07:00 -
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A'Real Fury wrote:Kain Spero wrote:Some of the most entertaining PC matches were when we had one right after the other. A novel way to deal Planetary Conquest would allow the attacker (if victorious) to press the attack. Maybe this takes place in a different set of terrain or maybe it just respawns the match again, but making it take 2 to 3 days to take a district is just bad.
You have to plan out for two to three days just to take on location. This is part of what makes PC a job. The other side of the coin is the same organization being able to attack over, and over, and over after successful defenses. Maybe put in a cool down timer for failed attacks. The ability to continue the attack straight into the next battle sounds like a good idea. If the attacker wins battle 1 then give them the choice to regroup, fight in 24 hours time, or continue immediately. 2-3 battles and less than an hour and it is over and they can immediately flip the clock necessitating a cool down period.
Kain is full of good ideas. Its just too bad that CCP doesnt want to listen to them it seems. |
semperfi1999
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
517
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:10:00 -
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Bones McGavins wrote:Or maybe the problem with PC was everyone stretching themselves too thin. Seems more like burn out is an issue more than anything else. Not a shock since only a small percentage of players are participating.
Also, maybe stacking your team so theres no real competition sort of hurt Imps specifically. The idea of a smaller elite corp that "cant" lose is cool and all. But yes, you are going to win your fights and then on the flip side, you cant really hold a lot of ground (without burnout quickly) so winning also becomes pointless.
Not really burnout... we were rarely ever attacked. Noone wanted to waste the clones on attacking us. So we attacked out and sold the districts behind us. The burnout is from the bad gameplay of Dust in general. Watching other FPS games now everytime I see a little hill my first thought it....ooooopp gotta go around that otherwise I will get stuck. But then I remember oh yea other FPS games dont have that problem. DOH |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:57:00 -
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Yeah, we actually made sure to give our guys several day breaks from PC to minimize the burnout and would rotate in new people as well.
We also were very careful not to overlap timers and sold off any excess districts. Funny thing is we never wanted land to begin with. We were always hoping for a legit way to just play pure mercs and let others play clone farmer and empire maker. The only issue with that is CCP made it almost financially impossible.
We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober, the bashing of Cronos, and removal of STB from Meildolf demonstrated, but in the end just showing up for the same match multiple days at the same hour just gets old. The only progression you see is clones ticking down on a map in a fight for a district.
We've had our fun, got paid to bash, bashed some stuff for fun, and now it's time to move on. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
264
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:39:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:Bones McGavins wrote:Or maybe the problem with PC was everyone stretching themselves too thin. Seems more like burn out is an issue more than anything else. Not a shock since only a small percentage of players are participating.
Also, maybe stacking your team so theres no real competition sort of hurt Imps specifically. The idea of a smaller elite corp that "cant" lose is cool and all. But yes, you are going to win your fights and then on the flip side, you cant really hold a lot of ground (without burnout quickly) so winning also becomes pointless. Not really burnout... we were rarely ever attacked. Noone wanted to waste the clones on attacking us. So we attacked out and sold the districts behind us. The burnout is from the bad gameplay of Dust in general. Watching other FPS games now everytime I see a little hill my first thought it....ooooopp gotta go around that otherwise I will get stuck. But then I remember oh yea other FPS games dont have that problem. DOH
I hear you so much in this one. freaking annoying terrain grab. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
294
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:47:00 -
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Kuvakei's Speaker wrote:Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished. Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*. In the words of --redacted--: --redacted-- wrote: CCP f**ked up Honestly F**k PC
Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**. *not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset **certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change
Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback.
Please STFU....forever. |
VEXation Gunn
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:51:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Kuvakei's Speaker wrote:Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished. Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*. In the words of --redacted--: --redacted-- wrote: CCP f**ked up Honestly F**k PC
Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**. *not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset **certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback. Please STFU....forever.
I agree and don't care all at the same time.
peace nubs |
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THAT- -GUY
THOSE GUYS INC
28
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:53:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Kuvakei's Speaker wrote:Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished. Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*. In the words of --redacted--: --redacted-- wrote: CCP f**ked up Honestly F**k PC
Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**. *not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset **certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback. Please STFU....forever.
You must not like your teeth much hooc er |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
333
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Posted - 2013.06.10 21:54:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Yeah, we actually made sure to give our guys several day breaks from PC to minimize the burnout and would rotate in new people as well.
We also were very careful not to overlap timers and sold off any excess districts. Funny thing is we never wanted land to begin with. We were always hoping for a legit way to just play pure mercs and let others play clone farmer and empire maker. The only issue with that is CCP made it almost financially impossible.
We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober, the bashing of Cronos, and removal of STB from Meildolf demonstrated, but in the end just showing up for the same match multiple days at the same hour just gets old. The only progression you see is clones ticking down on a map in a fight for a district.
We've had our fun, got paid to bash, bashed some stuff for fun, and now it's time to move on. ^DUST in a nutshell, sadly. |
Mitsuko'Souma
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
63
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:01:00 -
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Dust 514 corps shouldn't even own districts and planets, that is what EVE corps should be doing. PC should be open to everyone, via bulletin board style menu where you can see all available contract offers from EVE corps. Either single mercs or entire merc corps can be hired. The longer you work for a EVE corp, could come with higher pay/higher rewards.
The way they are doing it now is so dumb. Also they need to streamline the battle process. Why do defenders get to choose when they can or can't be attacked? An army shows up at your front door and you can just say, "oh sorry we don't want to fight right now, please come back later". Whenever a district changes hands, there should be a protection period, say 48 hours or however long, where it can't be attacked. After the protection period is over, it's fair game at any hour of the day. After a failed/successful battle, it goes back into protection period. That would be much better. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2499
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:02:00 -
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THAT- -GUY wrote:hooc order wrote:Kuvakei's Speaker wrote:Imperfects came. Imperfects saw. Imperfects conquered. Mission accomplished. Satisfied, we are giving everyone else a turn to "enjoy" PC. All districts are now officially for sale, with some lucky customers getting a doorbuster special of surprise giveaways*. In the words of --redacted--: --redacted-- wrote: CCP f**ked up Honestly F**k PC
Please submit the proper paperwork here and the title and deeds will be signed over promptly**. *not a typical experience, Imperfects will still kick your teeth in if made upset **certain exemptions, terms, and conditions may apply, subject to change Spero, i think i speak for everyone who is not in negative feedback. Please STFU....forever. You must not like your teeth much hooc er Just ignore him - everyone else does. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:08:00 -
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I don't have much but if there are no more offers I'll cough up 2.5 million to get a district. |
Colonel Killar
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:11:00 -
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Mitsuko'Souma wrote:Dust 514 corps shouldn't even own districts and planets, that is what EVE corps should be doing. PC should be open to everyone, via bulletin board style menu where you can see all available contract offers from EVE corps. Either single mercs or entire merc corps can be hired. The longer you work for a EVE corp, could come with higher pay/higher rewards.
The way they are doing it now is so dumb. Also they need to streamline the battle process. Why do defenders get to choose when they can or can't be attacked? An army shows up at your front door and you can just say, "oh sorry we don't want to fight right now, please come back later". Whenever a district changes hands, there should be a protection period, say 48 hours or however long, where it can't be attacked. After the protection period is over, it's fair game at any hour of the day. After a failed/successful battle, it goes back into protection period. That would be much better. I agree wholeheartedly but the dust corps need to have EVE support Dust needs to be where EVE pilots could use people on the ground to do thing for example to disrupt ground operations of their enemies and the enemies must bring protection. |
Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
94
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:15:00 -
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Id rather take it from you instead. |
SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:25:00 -
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[quote=Kain Spero]We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober.[quote]
Did this really happen?
That's hilarious!
Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove Eon from Hrober? Corporate backstabbing at its best! |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2499
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:34:00 -
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SHANN da MAN wrote:Kain Spero wrote:We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober. Did this really happen? That's hilarious! Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober? Corporate backstabbing at its best! You're a great example of why DF is such a failure. Got any other spins to play twister with?
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1517
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:34:00 -
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SHANN da MAN wrote:Kain Spero wrote:We did get hired for work as the removal of EON from Hrober. Did this really happen? That's hilarious! Imperfects worked with/were hired by EoN to eliminate Orion from Hrober - then someone Hired Imperfects to remove EoN from Hrober? Corporate backstabbing at its best! I'm actually surprised it didn't happen simultaneously.
If I know NF, they're just interested in fighting and ISK. No better way to get that than to be on both sides of the conflict. |
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