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Vavilia Lysenko
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:15:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Kain Spero wrote:This type of forum moderation has to come to an end and is completely unacceptable. If people can't speak their minds then what the **** are the forums for.
If the game is in a bad place then people need to be able to speak up about it without having to be worried that their voice will be silenced. I agree that people need to be able to voice their opinions. I'm curious what line the OP crossed to earn the ban. At some point the ranting is just hostile noise and not constructive. I wouldn't declare it unacceptable until you see what was said. Without moderation the forums will just descend into a worthless mess.
This is the problem I have with this whole thread, people are defending a piece which most of them haven't read.
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Hayden Reed
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:22:00 -
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The post was taken down along with the ban. It was in the ccp pushes pay to win thread. I will state again as I already have previously,. I said to the best of my memory "this game is garbage. It's been in production how many years? They are pushing out aurum stuff regularly instead of fixing issues that shouldn't be here at this point of development." |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
55
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:25:00 -
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CCP Mintchip wrote:Absolutely, more updates and more information is on the horizon :) Cheer up buttercup!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
CCP Mintchip wrote:What I can say, is that the feedback is great - and I am excited to say that a lot of the things that are a problem are being worked on. Also- that there will be a lot more consistent information coming out so that you all will know what we are doing on a week to week basis and will feel like things are getting done. Again, nothing that we are doing is a simple fix - our goal is to make a game that you guys like while also working within the parameters that we have.
I completely understand your frustrations, but what I can do is get you the information. As for the fixes, those are also on the horizon. So feel heard! I hear you! :D And I agree!
CCP Mintchip // Twitter - @CCP_Mintchip Dust 514 Community Rep
What parameters are restricting you? Do you mean you have parameters that you have to work within at CCP so you can't share what you're working on with us, or do you mean you have some sort of parameters imposed by Sony not allowing you to create a passable FPS?
In either case saying that you are "working within the parameters that we have" is pure lip service BS, and you know it.
Honestly, people are willing to forgive when someone legitimately apologizes for a mistake- and Uprising in DUST 514 is a HUGE mistake. However, when you try to make empty excuses for why you fail (such as "working within the parameters that we have") then people will eat you ALIVE. You should know better than most- from having dealt with a game in EVE that has trolling at its core- that you should NEVER give someone more reasons to criticize you when they already have so very many.
So, CCP- GET THE **** TO WORK buttercup :) |
nippy the fish
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
84
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:17:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:I hope I don't ever get banned, I don't want to quit dust but the forums are what keep me coming back
I hope you're kidding, goon. These forums are loaded with crybabies that won't shut up about how they're being forced to play the worst game in the world by the evil development oppressors. Most of the entertainment I can find on this thing is usually provided by myself. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
870
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:28:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:They need to start banning more people TBH or start moving threafs or closing threads in genersl discussion. Stuff like "I'm goingto play planet side 2" should be closed instantly. If it's the same offender ban that person.
Also troll threads ban that person immediately.
Banning troll threads? That's an insult to the rich culture of New Eden. |
KING SALASI
MAJOR DISTRIBUTION
43
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:41:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:KING SALASI wrote:They need to start banning more people TBH or start moving threafs or closing threads in genersl discussion. Stuff like "I'm goingto play planet side 2" should be closed instantly. If it's the same offender ban that person.
Also troll threads ban that person immediately. Banning troll threads? That's an insult to the rich culture of New Eden.
The troll threads are bad either close the thread or ban the person who starts the flame bait. I'm guessing CCP loves the troll stuff cuz they let it fly. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
870
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:43:00 -
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KING SALASI wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:KING SALASI wrote:They need to start banning more people TBH or start moving threafs or closing threads in genersl discussion. Stuff like "I'm goingto play planet side 2" should be closed instantly. If it's the same offender ban that person.
Also troll threads ban that person immediately. Banning troll threads? That's an insult to the rich culture of New Eden. The troll threads are bad either close the thread or ban the person who starts the flame bait. I'm guessing CCP loves the troll stuff cuz they let it fly. They're intellectually stimulating. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
2646
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:45:00 -
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I have a hard time believing you right now. The past year is full of threads that endlessly criticize DUST yet I rarely see anyone getting banned. And when they do get banned, it's because they did something stupid other than to post rants and those players aren't talking about it. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5025
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:51:00 -
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Shitpostery that is worthy of banns and are utterly useless most of the time, clutter the forums, harming feedback, bogging down messaging to developers and drown out well thought out criticism that not only points out things that are wrong in a clear precise picture but also offers acceptable means of resolving the issues.
And if you think that not getting listened to the first time around and your next solution is go full ****** is a good idea.
I truly wonder how many of you would change your posting habits if you saw the Community Management Reports. |
Hayden Reed
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:52:00 -
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The ban specifically and only states it was due to saying the game was garbage in a post. That is all. So this non existent thing I'mnot sshedding light on is exactly that, non existent. |
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Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
390
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:57:00 -
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Out of curiosity. Why in the hell is this thread getting away with discussing moderation for so long? That alt should've been gone just like the post that he's trying to defend hours ago. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
5025
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Posted - 2013.06.10 17:58:00 -
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Hayden Reed wrote: The game was garbage. Is beyond useless.
Raizor Feddie wrote:Is there a bug on the player count thing? Almost 5K? Wow, thought this game was doing better on launch day. Seriously it's player count is less than DCUO's.
I wonder why...
- Lack of Developer Communication?
- Lack on non-broken gameplay?
-Making the game feel like a job?
-Lack of balance for a VERY long time?
-Lack of a good training mode?
Any of these, anyone have any other reasons?
(And please, don't come out with the "It's Monday" excuse, all American schools hit summer break last week, so if nothing else, I would expect 6k minors playing a GOOD game, If this were one.) Is much more useful.
Moejoe Omnipotent wrote:Thukker Contact Locus Grenade
Price: 23,190 ISK
CPU Cost: 48
PG Cost: 6
Prequisites: Weaponry 3, Explosives 1, Grenadier 5
SP Cost: 1,417,760 SP
Blast Radius: 2.5 meters
Damage: 600
Summary: Inferior to the AUR version in every aspect other than direct damage. Requires an enormous amount of skill training to use (approximately 5 weeks of grinding out the SP cap every single week without purchasing any other skill). Requires a significant amount of CPU / PG to equip which makes it near impossible to equip on lower tier dropsuits (and even high tier ones) without giving up a lot of other equipment.
Players must spec into high-end dropsuits / CPU/PG upgrades in order to equip these with other equipment, adding on to the time required to use these grenades.
Fused Locus Grenades
Price: 15 AUR
CPU Cost: 9
PG Cost: 2
Prerequisites: Zero Requirements SP Cost: Zero
Blast Radius: 6.0 meters
Damage: 400
Summary: Superior to the Thukker Grenade in almost every aspect. Significantly wider blast radius makes it much easier to abuse. Can be purchased by any player who pays for AUR. Requires just a fraction of the CPU/PG cost of the Thukker so it can be fitted on almost any dropsuit loadout without any sacrifices. There is no direct ISK equivalent to this grenade.
Yep, totally a fair system. AUR purchasers definetely don't have the advantage here.... Is most useful. |
Kain Spero
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1567
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:04:00 -
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Only problem with that is that I know people have gotten banned for posts in the much more useful category.
I guess it all boils down to how you interpret this:
Quote:22. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve DUST 514 provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding DUST 514 and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. |
InsidiousN
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
59
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:10:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Only problem with that is that I know people have gotten banned for posts in the much more useful category. I guess it all boils down to how you interpret this: Quote:22. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve DUST 514 provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding DUST 514 and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.
It is incredibly important that we as a community know exactly what CCP is working on and planning to change in the game. CCP has wasted far too much time fixing things that aren't broken and consequently breaking more things by implementing "hotfixes". For example when CCP tells us they are implementing a hotfix to give LAVs far more health it would've been very apparent to anyone who plays this game more than 10 hours a week that it would create Murder Taxi 514-which is what we have now.
Another example, when CCP first tried to implement Active Omega SP Boosters my first question was how would they interact with boosters that were already active- would they supersede them, replace them, buff them? CCP did not see this issue until release day, and hence had to cancel Active Omega Boosters- thus wasting time- time that could've been saved if they allowed the community to know about their plan, and time that could've been spent fixing much more important things, such as aiming, hit detection, and lag.
So, CCP the reason we need to know what your plans are is so that we can tell you about the collateral damage your hotfixes will cause before you waste time creating them. Furthermore, you waste even more time fixing those unforeseen consequences even though those consequences would be very obvious to the player base and would've been easily avoided if you had just been more straightforward.
We know you have 8 million ideas that you hope to implement in the future- and that's the problem, you are not focused on what you need to be focused on, you're not focused on the most important game-breaking issues. Let the player base know what you are working on in the next update- which will probably be too many things at once- and we will focus you in on the important features and let you know how to implement them most effectively. |
Malkai Inos
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
390
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:14:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:Only problem with that is that I know people have gotten banned for posts in the much more useful category. I guess it all boils down to how you interpret this: Quote:22. Post constructively. Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve DUST 514 provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding DUST 514 and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting. Deleting posts is one thing, but outright banning someone just creates a chilling effect on the speech that is communicated on the forums. This assumes that the OP is a first offender. Based on the fact that he willfully breached another forum rule by creating this post i will hazard the guess that this is far from the case.
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xjumpman23
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
294
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:16:00 -
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Hayden Reed wrote:So on my main in a reply to a post, One of the things I stated was that this game is garbage. How it's this many years in production yet all these issues are here that shouldn't be.
I get forum banned for this? Stating non constructive rant? It wasn't a rant, it's a fact. Reading the forum rules it doesn't say you're not allowed to criticize this game, but apparently that's the case. Although according to other forum rules, 75% of posts should be deleted and/or get people banne, I. E.: trolling, flaming is prohibited and being courteous is required.
But no that's alright... Instead ban the people who criticize your ****** execution of making a game.
don't worry you weren't the first player banned for "ranting" |
Hayden Reed
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:18:00 -
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Actually it was my first "offense". As to making this thread showing the censorship and biased interpretation of forum rules, I took a chance it was one of the many rules not enforced here. |
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
227
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:19:00 -
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It would be stupid to take a side without seeing the post and (possibly) knowing your posting history. |
Hayden Reed
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:25:00 -
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I've played for 3 weeks. I've posted maybe 15 times? I would gladly show the post if it was still there. Funny they deleted my single post in a thread but only locked the ignorant racist guy spewing in his respec thread. |
Vethosis
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
287
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Posted - 2013.06.10 18:28:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shitpostery that is worthy of banns and are utterly useless most of the time,
YOU'RE USELESS!!! |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
544
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Posted - 2013.06.10 20:08:00 -
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Well, as much as people like to whine about freedom to say whatever they want, these are CCPs forums so they can in fact decide what is or is not fair ball.
Perhaps, just perhaps, if I was running a site and was hoping to have new players drop by once in a while, I'd get rid of threads that served no purpose other than to attack my company.
Luckily, I don't have a company, so I can just read the whiny cryhard threads and laugh at them. Or, even better, watch them whine more when they get moderated. Ahahahahhaa. Losers. If you are too lazy to figure out how to make your butthurt whiny posts at least useful enough not to get summarily removed you deserve what you get.
It's not like we don't get to state our opinions around here. Take a look at the ****ing forums. There are all kinds of whiny brats mewling about all kinds of conspiracy theories and other crap all the time.
TL;DR
Nobody cares. Stop whining. |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
1932
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Posted - 2013.06.11 10:22:00 -
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I am locking this for discussion of moderation. If you have an issue with the forum moderation, please file a petition. |
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