no vehicle can out run/dodge swarms. the can only hope to move so that either they out range them or their runs into a wall or something. swarms really are easy mode and hit 100% when in range and used correctly. and by equal you mean 4 to 5 times the sp.

you still hit it, you just tried to hit when it was leaving your range and you wonder why it didn't hit.. lol this is whats wrong with the AV guys.
first AV: I shot at it but its alive
second: did you miss
first: no I used swarms
me: lol how many shots are they going to waste if I just sit just outside their range?

you still hit it, you just tried to hit when it was leaving your range and you wonder why it didn't hit.. lol this is whats wrong with the AV guys.
first AV: I shot at it but its alive
second: did you miss
first: no I used swarms
me: lol how many shots are they going to waste if I just sit just outside their range?

with a friend in a tank, we tested that. 3 full clips. they'll just keep firing, from the same spot, not advancing or anything.

when I used to use them, you fire, and make sure they hit if you think they were even close to outranging you. otherwise, you're wasting ammo.

yes, it takes about 2 seconds to find out the effective range on a swarm launcher, and about 5 to find out anything not militia will likely easily get out of the range/ get behind cover/ or simply be moving to fast.

HAV's are of course exempt, these things are really the punching bag of vehicles this build.

Dumfire swarms were worse because it was like nukes going off at close range that killed EVERYTHING thats why.

was this before or after missile explosions became water balloons?

was this before or after missile explosions became water balloons?

for you clearly they were always water balloons and DS are walls, brick walls that takes no damage from AV, ever

No single medium frame player should be able to take out a well fitted vehicle solo. Now think of it past what we have currently. Right now the player count is too low to really dedicate a squad to anti-vehicle, likewise maps are still small and infantry focused that there isn't always vehicles out and about.

on a comparative level,

drop ships can easily dodge them, lav's can out tun them, tanks they gennerally work well against.

if you spec into them they tend to take 3 to 4 shots to kill a vehicle equally specced into, but as mentioned lav's and drop ships will gennerally out run them.

any user using a vehicle is genenrally immune to all weapons except paticular AV weapons, anyone using a swarm launcher is vulnerable to everything including the vehicles it's strong against.

also I get dumbfire missle were broken, but why doesn't it have a fixed version of anti-infantry, hell the forge gun one hits everything it fire at, why were swarms worse then that -.-

pretty sure something could of been done to keep some form of anti-infantry on this weapon.


so ya my two cents on it, don't care if you buff them or leave them as is, just pointing out how stupid the AV system is when these are involved.

so an effective AV weapon should not be able to destroy a drop ship floating 5 feet above your head firing missles at you before it gets away.

glad that''s a good weapon, I suppose AR's should only kill people so long as they aren't looking at you or actively trying to run away. even if they start in melee range when they begin running

it's worth noting btw, the a forge gun would still kill them in any of scenario that a swarm fails.

Yeah right, kill my 12.5M Sp spend tanks in 3 volleys and call it balanced, my ass.

For some reason when swarms are used against me, they will track me behind corners. When I use swarms, they never do that and follow a straight line to the target

Also, the swarm explosions that I see from my HAV are annoying. They always obscure my view as if they hit my turret directly, but they almost never do. Yet they still explode directly in my camera and I lose precious seconds trying to take down the swarmer as I wait for my vision to come back. And then guess what: another round of swarms is already on its way to obscure my vision again.

Just so you know in order to outrun swarms like that dropships have to sacrifice a lot of tanks.

no vehicle can out run/dodge swarms. the can only hope to move so that either they out range them or their runs into a wall or something. swarms really are easy mode and hit 100% when in range and used correctly. and by equal you mean 4 to 5 times the sp.

by this im pretty sure you mean an afterburner and you're right you have to sacrifice a significant amount of shields / armor to fit
also i don't know what most people talk about with this magical range limit on swarms but no matter how hard i try i can never outrun/out maneuver them can someone tell me if i need a afterburner to do this.

swarms really are easy mode and hit 100% when in range and used correctly.