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Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 03:24:00 -
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Hello, Thanks for viewing this thread. This is a petition to help push CCP into buffing the Amarr Logistics suit. If you support this petition please leave a like on this post or sign your signature below.
Reasons why Amarr Logi needs a buff
The Amarr Logistics suit fails to compete with the other racial variants at high levels. The Amarr logistics suit is severley lacking when compared to the other suits and holds no benefits aside from being able to equip a sidearm at prototype level and a slight increase in overall stamina. The Amarr logi suffers from being the slowest of all thelogi suits, has the lowest number of overall module slots and has a significantly low amount of PG, causing the suit to be even more of a burden. These drawbacks are not balanced with the suits positives.
A militia Cardiac Regulator that raises stamina by a whopping 50% and that can easily fit into a low slot for less than 10 CPU and 5 PG completely nullifies the higher stamina stat of the Amarr suit. So now the Amarr has one positive and that is the ability to equip a sidearm. Which is almost ill advised since the low amount of PG on the suit forces you to use lower end modules in order to equip a sidearm. Making the feature of having a sidearm slot in the first place more of a sacrifice than a benefit. Add The fact that you must also spend over a whopping 3 million SP to unlock this sidearm slot and you essentially have a suit that just isn't worth the investment at all.
The Fix
My Suggestion: Increase the Amarr High and Low slots by one, Increase PG to the same level as the rest of the Logistics suits(78). Now the Amarr is now on a balanced level with the other suits. It now has 11 module slots compared to the other 3 races 12. In order to carry a sidearm we are missing one High/Low slot and we are the slowest of all the races. in my opinion this is a fair trade off and will allow the Amarr logi to compete and support teams at a competitive level.
Those of you who disagree or would like to share your own suggestions please post your thoughts and opinions below.
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All Racial Logistics Suit Stats For Reference
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- Amarr Logistics AK.0
High Slots: 3 | Low Slots: 3 | Equipment: 3 | Sidearm
PG: 66
CPU: 390
Shield: 120
Armor: 180
Shield Recharge Rate: 17.0 HP/s
Movement Speed: 4.5 M/s
Sprint Speed: 6.4 M/s
Sprint Duration: 14.0 s
Stamina: 140.0
- Gallente Logistics GK.0
High Slots: 3 | Low Slots: 5 | Equipment: 4
PG: 78
CPU: 390
Shield: 90
Armor: 180
Shield Recharge Rate: 15.0 HP/s
Movement Speed: 4.7 M/s
Sprint Speed: 6.6 M/s
Sprint Duration: 12.5 s
Stamina: 125.0
-Caldari Logistics CK.0
High Slots: 5 | Low Slots: 4 | Equipment: 3
PG: 78
CPU: 390
Shield: 180
Armor: 90
Shield Recharge Rate: 20.0 HP/s
Movement Speed: 4.7 M/s
Sprint Speed: 6.6 M/s
Sprint Duration: 11.5 s
Stamina: 115.0
-Minmatar Logicistics MK.0
High Slots: 4 | Low Slots: 4 | Equipment: 4
PG: 78 KW
CPU: 390
Shield: 90 HP
Armor: 150 HP
Shield Recharge Rate: 20.0 HP/s
Movement Speed: 5.0 M/s
Sprint Speed: 7.0 M/s
Sprint Duration: 12.0 s
Stamina: 120.0 |
Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 03:30:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:I mean the Proto Amarr Logi already gets a sidearm, and you can 400+ shield and 400+ armor... I dont see the problem....
- Geth
Serious question. Did you even read my thread? I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I clearly stated the reasons why the Amarr Logi isn't up to par compared to the other proto logi suits.
If you did read it, then thanks. I think I should post the possible fittings of all the other suits in comparison to the Amar Logi as well so you can see just how bad it lacks. |
Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 04:52:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:...so I can rock the flaylock for easy kills...
Ahhh, The Easy mode Duvolle TAC isn't so easy anymore so for you it's on to the next big easy thing. Bravo Mark, Bravo.
By the way your thoughts and opinions are quite honestly, probably the worst this community has to offer. I don't know why anyone has even taken the time to respond to your idiocy seriously.
4 high 4 Low is even more broken than 5 High 4 low? Are you impaired? |
Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:00:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Alina Heart wrote:TheMarkOf22 wrote:...so I can rock the flaylock for easy kills... Ahhh, The Easy mode Duvolle TAC isn't so easy anymore so for you it's on to the next big easy thing. Bravo Mark, Bravo. By the way your thoughts and opinions are quite honestly, probably the worst this community has to offer. I don't know why anyone has even taken the time to respond to your idiocy seriously. 4 high 4 Low is even more broken than 5 High 4 low? Are you impaired? You get a side arm dummy
4 high, 4 Low + A Toxin SMG = Holy Crap this is OP
Seriously Stop posting you're embarrassing yourself. |
Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:29:00 -
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Bump for a good cause! |
Alina Heart
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:20:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Let it be the combat logibro it's supposed to be:
-150 shields/armor
-3 highs (Minmatar should have more slots than Amarr)
-4 lows (to take advantage of repair mods)
-Sidearm for all tiers
-2 equipment slots
-Highest CPU/PG of all logi suits
But has to watch out that it doesn't become better than the assault suit. The sidearm sacrifice is one less equipment slot. Also Minmatar has to be shield-tank with 150 shields/90 armor. And Caldari logi wtf 4 lows? Should have 3. Let me know what you think.
This was my original thought and suggestion as well. Basic frame Amarr sits have higher CPU and PG than the other racial basic frame variants. Why it loses this benefit at specialization levels? I have no idea. Really makes no sense .
Anyway I can support your suggestions minus reducing the equipment slots. The Amarr already loses out on 2 slots in exchange for sidearm plus being unnecessarily slow. Plus, despite the fact the Amarr is suitable for an assault build it's primary role is to still be a logi. 2 equipments slots isn't enough to logi effectively. 3 equipment slots is the minimum needed for all Logi suits imo. |
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