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Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:26:00 -
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Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure. |
Icy TIG3R
Red Star. EoN.
366
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:27:00 -
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Reality.
This is not it. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
245
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:30:00 -
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Icy TIG3R wrote:Reality. This is not it.
Nerf Reality pls. |
LOU C1F3R
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:31:00 -
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My brain hurts and my eyes feel like they are on fire from reading what the OP wrote. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1199
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:31:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Icy TIG3R wrote:Reality. This is not it. Nerf Reality pls.
Reality has **** graphics and the gameplay is just so bad |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
410
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:32:00 -
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LOU C1F3R wrote:My brain hurts and my eyes feel like they are on fire from reading what the OP wrote. Working as intended. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
13
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:36:00 -
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I agree with OP. If AV is as expensive as a tank people will complain too. |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
401
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:39:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:LOU C1F3R wrote:My brain hurts and my eyes feel like they are on fire from reading what the OP wrote. Working as intended. Nerf kitten Empress intelligence. Too smart to be on these forums. Go join the Mensa forums. You clearly do not belong here with the idiots. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1267
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:40:00 -
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No prototype tanks available, prototype AV available. Not trying to make an argument in favor of either side, I just felt like pointing that out. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
1497
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:45:00 -
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If tankers want it to take the same cost in AV to destroy their HAV, the entire enemy team would have to be running AV, and it still might not be enough to match the cost of a high-end HAV |
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KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
426
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Posted - 2013.06.09 15:49:00 -
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Price 'balancing' is not the way to balance anything on battlefield.
Therefore +1 for OP. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
112
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:00:00 -
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Plus as soon as someone switches to an AV fit they tend to become targets and can die many times. Sure one of a fit might not cost much but 10+ can cost 1 mil+ |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
751
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:06:00 -
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AV shouldn't be nerfed, tanks should be buffed.
Because otherwise AV would just become weaker Vs LAVs, and we all know how much bitching that would cause.
Give us Proto tanks with +4k Hull HP, more PG and CPU and more slots, also give us our old skill bonuses back (+25% PG and +25% Shield/Armour) |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1869
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:09:00 -
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You are wrong on both a reality and game balance standpoint. |
R F Gyro
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
360
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:11:00 -
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In any competitive endeavour people will pay ever larger premiums for ever smaller advantages. Once there is enough ISK sloshing around, people will probably be willing to pay 25m ISK for a tank that is only 10% better than a 2.5m ISK tank.
You can't balance the game on ISK alone. Not going to happen. |
Kitten Empress
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
412
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Posted - 2013.06.09 16:41:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:You are wrong on both a reality and game balance standpoint. Modern tanks are designed for much higher survivability, since now days people care more about the crew than in WWII. Dust 514 tanks last just as long. |
The legend345
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:17:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure.
Also, I'm not saying the current AV vs Tank situation is balanced. It definitely should be looked at. Hmm by your logic should all troops be dead after a few bullets? Why are structures indestructible? Hmm perhaps this isn't reality? |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard General Tso's Alliance
116
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:21:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:No prototype tanks available, prototype AV available. Not trying to make an argument in favor of either side, I just felt like pointing that out.
Proto AV barely works against good current tanks (forge gun excluded) Swarm missles worthless against LLAV, yea AV is OP to hell at the moment |
RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
185
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:24:00 -
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The legend345 wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure.
Also, I'm not saying the current AV vs Tank situation is balanced. It definitely should be looked at. Hmm by your logic should all troops be dead after a few bullets? Why are structures indestructible? Hmm perhaps this isn't reality? No. This ain't reality |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
126
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:34:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure.
Also, I'm not saying the current AV vs Tank situation is balanced. It definitely should be looked at.
then whats the point of tanks if they gonna make us go bankrupt? |
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
126
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:35:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure.
Also, I'm not saying the current AV vs Tank situation is balanced. It definitely should be looked at.
then whats the point of tanks if they gonna make us go bankrupt? |
Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus
Kilrathi Knights DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:39:00 -
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Apparently, you have never seen an Abram in action. The most advanced tank in the world, and you think a Fire and Forget RPG made some 20 or 30 years ago is going to destroy it? You sir, need to do some research, cause the chances of that happening are literally like 1 and a million. It would have to hit exactly where the turret is connected to the hull, which is nearly impossible. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:40:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Don't complain about tank vs AV costs. Offense is always the cheaper method. Abrams tanks that cost 8.58 million dollars are destroyed by 300 dollars RPG. Home made rockets that cost 50 dollars more or less take batteries that cost 50 million dollars + 50k dollars per rocket launch. 894,000 dollars for a Torpedo that can bring down a ship that costs 3.45 billion dollars. AA missiles that cost 9 million dollars take down jets that cost 100mil+.
This is just the reality of things.
Also, bringing out AV takes a gun off the battlefield, which makes for easy targets for your team mates. Yeah yeah AV grenades don't, but they need to be looked at that's for sure.
Also, I'm not saying the current AV vs Tank situation is balanced. It definitely should be looked at.
I think it is balanced, it takes two of us sometimes to kill those heavy duty tanks.
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Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:41:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:AV shouldn't be nerfed, tanks should be buffed.
Because otherwise AV would just become weaker Vs LAVs, and we all know how much bitching that would cause.
Give us Proto tanks with +4k Hull HP, more PG and CPU and more slots, also give us our old skill bonuses back (+25% PG and +25% Shield/Armour)
+1 you have a solid point here, they really need to bring out the Protos!!! |
Creed 'Jigsaw' Vacarus
Kilrathi Knights DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2013.06.09 17:48:00 -
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Yeah, I would really like to see Proto Vehicles for a change. |
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