Sorry, but never.

ISK is never a limiting factor in EVE.

If there is full integration then AUR packs and micro transactions are dead in the water as ISK floods DUST regardless of any transfer penalty put in place. Problem is CCP needs every cent it can get at this stage.

The only thing CCP would then have as an option would be P2W AUR items which isn't popular.

Another flawed game design feature.

so, when does everyone think Eve will be fully integrated? after all, isn't that what this game is supposed to be about? Eve corps supplying US, funding US, and us working for THEM? their ISK, our blood, sweat, and tears?

1) next build- november (if updated every 6 months)
2) next year- 1 year anniversary?
3) longer

i think... can't find the post, and i'm too lazy to look hard, ccp says a "major" patch every 6 months... could be 3 though. 6 would put us at november (may-november). 3 would put us at august (may-august).

i'm willing to run to november. hell, i'm probably sticking with dust until the end given my limited time to play games anymore . considering my wife and i are expecting our second child in january , my gaming will probably be even more limited after that . such is life.

but i really think if ccp wants this game to succeed, they need to integrate eve by november. both sides, eve an dust, will be in an uproar otherwise.

There won't be an uproar, because those of us who matter understand that this is a very delicate procedure that has to be done slowly and carefully.

Under no circumstances should Dust be allowed to pose a risk to EVE's economy. CCP feels the same way, and that's why they're content to take it slow, and we should be too.

the whole economy thing is what i don't understand. ccp developed both games. their whole intent was to link the games. why in the world would they set up the exchange rate so poorly? i don't play eve. i'm not going to act like i know what's going on there. i know ships are in the millions to (billions?) of isk, and that's about it. ccp should have made it like a normal economy. with "real" cost perspectives from the start.

as an example... a US Nimitz class aircraft carrier costs about $4 billion. a typical AR15 costs about $1200-2500. if ccp would have just made eve ships (and isk and resource acquisitions) better tied into a realistic economic structure, the dust-eve economy would be just fine. i don't know what a titan costs, but it should be $100B, even $1T (bare minimum $50B). from what i hear, ISK is fairly easy to come by in eve, so this shouldn't be too hard to swallow.

tbh, i think the dust economy is pretty realistic. for instance, an abrams tank costs about $3million... and fully loaded advanced dust tank costs about $2.5M, and i know when proto tanks come back it will be more expensive. suits and weapons seem pretty good now too since this last market adjustment.

(i know it's ISK but the $ sign is easier to type ).

i like this game. i don't want to see it die. i do however want to see the game that was hyped so much. i know it still a work in progress, but throw us a bone here. please make some kind of link by the end of november.

The straight answer is NEVER because EVE players don't want us in their sandbox messing up "their" game and CCP is too scared of another Jita Riot and won't risk angering their most consistent paying customers.


Look at PC the EVE rewards are awful and most EVE corps could care less.

FW is the biggest example however because its soo dependent on EVE side plexing their is hardly ever any activity on it for Dust players to get involved with.


As long as Dust players are dependent on EVE players initiating the actions Dust will never have a meaningful link to the game. We are just their sheep and thats exactly how EVE players want it and as long as that is the case this game will never have the true impact in the universe we want it to.