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Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 394	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:18:00 - [1] - Quote Half of both teams riding around in LAV's. Spawning system spawning me within 5 meters of 6 enemies. Spawning system forcing me to spawn on a camped drop uplink. These are major issues with Ambush. And don't bullshit me that the spawning system works better late in game, this happens constantly and it was 5 minutes left on the match.
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:27:00 - [2] - Quote You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 125	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:28:00 - [3] - Quote It's a funnier joke than a bunch of people AFKing in the MCC.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 394	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:34:00 - [4] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems.
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:39:00 - [5] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems. You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play..... Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 394	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:40:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems. You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play..... Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control False. The game always spawns me on drop uplinks, even if I ask for a random spawn.
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 8	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:42:00 - [7] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Lol. Spawning cloaked only only last a few seconds and doesn't always protect you. I've all ready had a few times where I get blown up or driven over just as I am spawning. Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs. Drop uplinks are to spawn in designated areas, not to avoid being spawned to be greeted with the enemy in your face. the spawn system isn't really (unless you get spawned with the enemy at the start of the match) broken, it's just badly designed.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 60	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:46:00 - [8] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs. Stop being bad. 400k sp or so will get you advanced/proto AV. That is ******* nothing.
Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 395	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:49:00 - [9] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs. Stop being bad. 400k sp or so will get you advanced/proto AV. That is ******* nothing. So we need proto AV to deal with free LAV's? Gotchya
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:49:00 - [10] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: True Adamance wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems. You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play..... Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control False. The game always spawns me on drop uplinks, even if I ask for a random spawn. Anecdotal evidence is poor evidence indeed. Ever time I hit randomly deploy I spawn as far away from them as possible even if it means I'm in the red line.

Kitten Empress Ametat Security Amarr Empire 395	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:51:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: True Adamance wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: Aoena Rays wrote: You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks. /thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems. You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play..... Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control False. The game always spawns me on drop uplinks, even if I ask for a random spawn. Anecdotal evidence is poor evidence indeed. Ever time I hit randomly deploy I spawn as far away from them as possible even if it means I'm in the red line. Happened to me 4 times in a row in a single Ambush match.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 60	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:51:00 - [12] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs. Stop being bad. 400k sp or so will get you advanced/proto AV. That is ***** nothing. So we need proto AV to deal with free LAV's? Gotchya No, but saying "Not everyone has AV" is stupid as **. it's such a minimal investment that ANY character out of the academy should have at LEAST advanced AV. Be it swarms/forges/AV nades.
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:54:00 - [13] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Kitten Empress wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs. Stop being bad. 400k sp or so will get you advanced/proto AV. That is ***** nothing. So we need proto AV to deal with free LAV's? Gotchya No, but saying "Not everyone has AV" is stupid as **. it's such a minimal investment that ANY character out of the academy should have at LEAST advanced AV. Be it swarms/forges/AV nades. However you have to take into account how difficult it is for new players to get decent AV. OKay sure is as simple as skilling into Grenades. But then you have to take into account the SP they need in dropsuits to use Swarms, fit secondary weapons, grenades and modules, that's atleast say 1.5 Million and about 2- 3 weeks effort. I know this because I'm doing it right now. Went from and 7m SP toon back to 500k toon.
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 102	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:56:00 - [14] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Happened to me 4 times in a row in a single Ambush match. Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that its just you. I have spawned in generally good places in most of the matches I have ever played. Its down to your experience and seems like this is somewhat isolated to you right now. I cant complain about my spawns, especially if the other team is stomping the living **** out of my one. Its that the other team is constantly overrunning into your deployment, game determines a spot based on immeadiate conditions and doesn't change depending on how the battlefield evolves.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 60	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:58:00 - [15] - Quote True Adamance wrote: However you have to take into account how difficult it is for new players to get decent AV. OKay sure is as simple as skilling into Grenades. But then you have to take into account the SP they need in dropsuits to use Swarms, fit secondary weapons, grenades and modules, that's atleast say 1.5 Million and about 2- 3 weeks effort. I know this because I'm doing it right now. Went from and 7m SP toon back to 500k toon. Even with your gross exaggeration my statement stands. Any character that has left the academy should have at least ADV AV and no reason to complain about getting ran over. Also I don't know why free LAVs even exist. They should cost something.
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 130	Posted - 2013.06.09 09:59:00 - [16] - Quote Dust Project 514 wrote: Lol. Spawning cloaked only only last a few seconds and doesn't always protect you. You are cloaked until you move, switch weapon or do any other action. You can look around for quite a while. Get your facts straight :)
Mortedeamor Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 66	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:00:00 - [17] - Quote Kitten Empress wrote: Half of both teams riding around in LAV's. Spawning system spawning me within 5 meters of 6 enemies. Spawning system forcing me to spawn on a camped drop uplink. These are major issues with Ambush. And don't bullshit me that the spawning system works better late in game, this happens constantly and it was 5 minutes left on the match. current ambush spawning compares to codex spawning...>.< hide and run stay away evvvviill
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 104	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:05:00 - [18] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: True Adamance wrote: However you have to take into account how difficult it is for new players to get decent AV. OKay sure is as simple as skilling into Grenades. But then you have to take into account the SP they need in dropsuits to use Swarms, fit secondary weapons, grenades and modules, that's atleast say 1.5 Million and about 2- 3 weeks effort. I know this because I'm doing it right now. Went from and 7m SP toon back to 500k toon. Even with your gross exaggeration my statement stands. Any character that has left the academy should have at least ADV AV and no reason to complain about getting ran over. Also I don't know why free LAVs even exist. They should cost something. Its not an exaggeration. I have 1.2 Million SP. I have basic Scramblers, Basic grenades, Basic Nanohives, 1 level in the core skills for CPU and PG, I have decent enough armour tanking, and only lvl 1 dropsuits for Amarr Medium. Even with this I cannot fit AV grenades on my toon because of suit and CPU constraints, until I get another suit or more CPU skills I cannot even use basic AV grenades. Now there are other more important things for the basic player to get instead of advanced AV. Most new players will not want to or be capable of sustaining a pure AV build, let along understanding how to put together and survivable and decent AV fit when they can just pick up the AR and go for gold. By the time I left the Academy I had 700k SP tops. Now I could have specced into Advanced AV but that would go against how im building my character. I COULD have Advanced AV, but it doesn't mean that everyone will have it. New players need time to get their SP values up before they realise how important the Grenadiers skill is, because as it stands Milita Locus work well enough.
Rob Retzger Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:14:00 - [19] - Quote For me whenever my team either: A) Owns a spawn point B) Drops an uplink I spawn there when I press the random spawn button. If there are > 1 spawn points the game seems to pick the closest to where I died, however it could be completely random. If no spawn points exist, I generally just get randomly dropped anywhere, sometimes in the middle of a load of reds, sometimes with my team, and sometimes in the middle of nowhere. Sometimes if I'm really unlucky the spawn system spawns me in the same place all match, this usually happens on the more open maps, which usually means I spend most of the time travelling to the fight rather than fighting. EDIT Perhaps the spawn system performs a check for spawn points and the location of your incapacitation, depending on your distance from the droplink/spawn station it puts you there else it just spawns you randomly elsewhere.
Rusty Shallows Black Jackals 96	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:15:00 - [20] - Quote Especially when the other side is constantly overrunning positions because it has become a pub-stomp. It's been a tricky problem for CCP.

Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 60	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:15:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Stuff I thought the Academy kept newbs safe until 2 mil SP. I am incorrect. I will change my statement. Anyone with 2m SP no longer has a right to ***** about LAVs. As far as berries with less than that. Lrn2cover.
True Adamance Ametat Security Amarr Empire 104	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:30:00 - [22] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: True Adamance wrote: Stuff I thought the Academy kept newbs safe until 2 mil SP. I am incorrect. I will change my statement. Anyone with 2m SP no longer has a right to ***** about LAVs. As far as berries with less than that. Lrn2cover. No it keeps you safe until 10-20 K WP or 2million SP. Most people WP out of Academy before they have enough SP to play properl0y. At 2million SP if you cant AV then you are doing something wrong, unless its deliberate.
Dust Project 514 Dust Evo 514 8	Posted - 2013.06.09 10:31:00 - [23] - Quote Aoena Rays wrote: Dust Project 514 wrote: Lol. Spawning cloaked only only last a few seconds and doesn't always protect you. You are cloaked until you move, switch weapon or do any other action. You can look around for quite a while. Get your facts straight :) You are misinformed. Next time you turn on the game, READ THE PATCH NOTES. It's literally states: "Spawning and End of Match * Players are invisible / cloaked upon spawn for a few seconds. Cloak diables upon movement" Lol they mispelled disables. Then go play a match, DON'T move when you spawn, and count for a few seconds. I said a few seconds, NOT 2 or 3.
IamI3rian OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 152	Posted - 2013.06.09 11:37:00 - [24] - Quote Eurydice Itzhak wrote: it's such a minimal investment that ANY character out of the academy should have at LEAST advanced AV. Be it swarms/forges/AV nades. Could and should are two VERY different words my friend. If a newbie wants to compete AT ALL, speccing into situational grenades before any kind of survivability or core skills... or weapons... or a suit... or equipment... etc. is a TERRIBLE way to do it. Go ahead, give it a shot. See how far you get in militia gear with a 15k+ isk grenade, and 200 eHP. Methinks you haven't started an alt recently.
Eurydice Itzhak Militaires Sans Jeux 62	Posted - 2013.06.09 22:17:00 - [25] - Quote IamI3rian wrote: Eurydice Itzhak wrote: it's such a minimal investment that ANY character out of the academy should have at LEAST advanced AV. Be it swarms/forges/AV nades. Could and should are two VERY different words my friend. If a newbie wants to compete AT ALL, speccing into situational grenades before any kind of survivability or core skills... or weapons... or a suit... or equipment... etc. is a TERRIBLE way to do it. Go ahead, give it a shot. See how far you get in militia gear with a 15k+ isk grenade, and 200 eHP. Methinks you haven't started an alt recently. Not recently, but my alt is at 2.4 mil SP. I have PLENTY of points to spec into one branch of ADV AV and have decent suit/weapon skills. Even if a newb gets to a point where they are realizing theyre getting demolished by vehicles and has yet to spend a SINGLE point towards AV, it would take a week of saving to get ADV AV. That is not serious at all.
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