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True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:39:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks.
/thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems.
You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play.....
Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:49:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote:True Adamance wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Aoena Rays wrote:You spawn cloaked. Watch around and call your teammates if you are in trouble. LAVs? Use AV. Don't like spawning system? Use Drop Uplinks.
/thread Right. Because blueberries listen when someone calls for help? And LAV's survive 2-3 AV And the spawn system FORCES ME to spawn on drop uplinks, even if they are camped. So STFU and stop being a blind fanboy who can't see the problems. You don't have to ever spawn on any uplinks if you don't want to. Stop being a whiner and learn to play..... Though Im gonna admit the LAV thing its goddamn out of control False. The game always spawns me on drop uplinks, even if I ask for a random spawn.
Anecdotal evidence is poor evidence indeed. Ever time I hit randomly deploy I spawn as far away from them as possible even if it means I'm in the red line.
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True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:54:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Kitten Empress wrote:Eurydice Itzhak wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:
Not everyone has AVs for the now OP free LAVs.
Stop being bad. 400k sp or so will get you advanced/proto AV. That is ******* nothing. So we need proto AV to deal with free LAV's? Gotchya No, but saying "Not everyone has AV" is stupid as ****. it's such a minimal investment that ANY character out of the academy should have at LEAST advanced AV. Be it swarms/forges/AV nades.
However you have to take into account how difficult it is for new players to get decent AV.
OKay sure is as simple as skilling into Grenades. But then you have to take into account the SP they need in dropsuits to use Swarms, fit secondary weapons, grenades and modules, that's atleast say 1.5 Million and about 2- 3 weeks effort.
I know this because I'm doing it right now. Went from and 7m SP toon back to 500k toon. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 09:56:00 -
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Kitten Empress wrote: Happened to me 4 times in a row in a single Ambush match.
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that its just you. I have spawned in generally good places in most of the matches I have ever played. Its down to your experience and seems like this is somewhat isolated to you right now. I cant complain about my spawns, especially if the other team is stomping the living **** out of my one.
Its that the other team is constantly overrunning into your deployment, game determines a spot based on immeadiate conditions and doesn't change depending on how the battlefield evolves. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:05:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:True Adamance wrote: However you have to take into account how difficult it is for new players to get decent AV.
OKay sure is as simple as skilling into Grenades. But then you have to take into account the SP they need in dropsuits to use Swarms, fit secondary weapons, grenades and modules, that's atleast say 1.5 Million and about 2- 3 weeks effort.
I know this because I'm doing it right now. Went from and 7m SP toon back to 500k toon.
Even with your gross exaggeration my statement stands. Any character that has left the academy should have at least ADV AV and no reason to complain about getting ran over. Also I don't know why free LAVs even exist. They should cost something.
Its not an exaggeration. I have 1.2 Million SP. I have basic Scramblers, Basic grenades, Basic Nanohives, 1 level in the core skills for CPU and PG, I have decent enough armour tanking, and only lvl 1 dropsuits for Amarr Medium.
Even with this I cannot fit AV grenades on my toon because of suit and CPU constraints, until I get another suit or more CPU skills I cannot even use basic AV grenades.
Now there are other more important things for the basic player to get instead of advanced AV. Most new players will not want to or be capable of sustaining a pure AV build, let along understanding how to put together and survivable and decent AV fit when they can just pick up the AR and go for gold.
By the time I left the Academy I had 700k SP tops. Now I could have specced into Advanced AV but that would go against how im building my character.
I COULD have Advanced AV, but it doesn't mean that everyone will have it. New players need time to get their SP values up before they realise how important the Grenadiers skill is, because as it stands Milita Locus work well enough. |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.09 10:30:00 -
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Eurydice Itzhak wrote:True Adamance wrote:Stuff I thought the Academy kept newbs safe until 2 mil SP. I am incorrect. I will change my statement. Anyone with 2m SP no longer has a right to ***** about LAVs. As far as berries with less than that. Lrn2cover.
No it keeps you safe until 10-20 K WP or 2million SP. Most people WP out of Academy before they have enough SP to play properl0y.
At 2million SP if you cant AV then you are doing something wrong, unless its deliberate. |
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