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GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:59:00 -
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I've pulled together some clips of my freebie shotty slaying... I stand by my stance in those threads.... it's fine...
Teh Video
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Calamity Jane II
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:41:00 -
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Yar its not UP, just have to adjust to not shooting people at 50 yards like before. Its was easier to hit a target at long range with such a massive reticle but up close you really have to fine tune your hand to land a good shot. Its still as deadly as ever, just now requires a more practiced hand to use. In a way uprising has weeded out the casuals and left only the hardened shotgun users, which can be good or can be bad. The only change i want is my damn "KACHINK!" that it used to make, not the damn "Beating a pillow full of leaves with a stick" noise it makes now. "PUhhhhh....." |
Morathi III
Pro Hic Immortalis
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:46:00 -
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I prefer the new sound effect tbh, just need the sound effect back when you kill somebody and its write + 50 for me, shotgunner can kill a group of ennemy quick and i miss the sound effect because you feeled in a hot streak with it, personnaly i like the SG like he is right now too |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:52:00 -
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I'd agree, it's fine where it's at -- balanced, it sucks when you get outside of range, but nothing else can really compete with it in cqc if it's in the hands of an adept SG player. |
IamSTILLI3rian
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.08 11:48:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:The only change i want is my damn "KACHINK!" that it used to make, not the damn "Beating a pillow full of leaves with a stick" noise it makes now. "PUhhhhh....." Used to sound like a kickball.
I HATED that stupid sound. Now I miss it. =' ( |
Cody Sietz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:17:00 -
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IamSTILLI3rian wrote:Calamity Jane II wrote:The only change i want is my damn "KACHINK!" that it used to make, not the damn "Beating a pillow full of leaves with a stick" noise it makes now. "PUhhhhh....." Used to sound like a kickball. I HATED that stupid sound. Now I miss it. =' ( It sounded more kike a hammer hitting a bell to me...and it was awesome. |
Novawolf McDustingham The514th
The Official Mintchip Fanclub
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Posted - 2013.06.08 12:24:00 -
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I think the shotty needs a better reticule, it seems off a bit. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.10 11:05:00 -
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Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote:I think the shotty needs a better reticule, it seems off a bit.
I don't agree -- the reticule is fine, lag/fps drops sometime play a factor though as it's a very 'sensitive' weapon. |
Longshot Ravenwood
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.10 11:22:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:I've pulled together some clips of my freebie shotty slaying... I stand by my stance in those threads.... it's fine... Teh Video You, sir, are a surgeon with this weapon.
+1
It's been my experience that even my terrible aim a shotgun is enough to drive off a heavy, if not kill him outright. |
Den-tredje Baron
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.10 11:33:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:I've pulled together some clips of my freebie shotty slaying... I stand by my stance in those threads.... it's fine... Teh Video
Yeah the shotgun is not U...... wait a minute is that a Minmatar logistics suit ???? Well i can really see you are using it for it's intended use there. Really helping out the team i must say. Going around repping people and staying behind the assaults.......
But yeah i've seen someone go 43-5 with a shotgun it's not UP. Just gotta get used to it.
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GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.10 22:37:00 -
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Den-tredje Baron wrote:GLiMPSE X wrote:I've pulled together some clips of my freebie shotty slaying... I stand by my stance in those threads.... it's fine... Teh Video Yeah the shotgun is not U...... wait a minute is that a Minmatar logistics suit ???? Well i can really see you are using it for it's intended use there. Really helping out the team i must say. Going around repping people and staying behind the assaults....... But yeah i've seen someone go 43-5 with a shotgun it's not UP. Just gotta get used to it.
Were you expecting a scout suit? While I'd love for that to be viable... logi does it better :-P
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Oha Yo
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 15:47:00 -
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it's definitely not UP when it actually register hits. it's not that awesome when you deal 0 damage in the back of that red's head, is it. that's the main problem with shotguns this build. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 02:53:00 -
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Oha Yo wrote:it's definitely not UP when it actually register hits. it's not that awesome when you deal 0 damage in the back of that red's head, is it. that's the main problem with shotguns this build.
I'd agree with that, all though nearly all guns are plagued by this problem. However, I remember it being much worse 6 months ago in that build. |
Oha Yo
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:27:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:Oha Yo wrote:it's definitely not UP when it actually register hits. it's not that awesome when you deal 0 damage in the back of that red's head, is it. that's the main problem with shotguns this build. I'd agree with that, all though nearly all guns are plagued by this problem. However, I remember it being much worse 6 months ago in that build. yeah ok but when i'm glancing in those red eyes and my shotgun kinda does nothing what am i supposed to do? "hey buddy i just wanted to say hi, i'm unarmed don't shoot me?" close distance makes it a bigger problem than with other guns, amiright |
Sontie
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:37:00 -
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It's not the shotty that is UP, it's the aim mechanics. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:37:00 -
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Hit detection is the real issue. Spike damage weapons like the shotty feel it more since you put everything in one shot.
I hope we get a Minmatar mid ranged SG one day though. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:43:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Hit detection is the real issue. Spike damage weapons like the shotty feel it more since you put everything in one shot.
I hope we get a Minmatar mid ranged SG one day though.
Meh, it would need to have its damage taken down to do that. Not what I look for to fill its role, but hey, to each their own. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 08:44:00 -
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Oha Yo wrote:GLiMPSE X wrote:Oha Yo wrote:it's definitely not UP when it actually register hits. it's not that awesome when you deal 0 damage in the back of that red's head, is it. that's the main problem with shotguns this build. I'd agree with that, all though nearly all guns are plagued by this problem. However, I remember it being much worse 6 months ago in that build. yeah ok but when i'm glancing in those red eyes and my shotgun kinda does nothing what am i supposed to do?
Pull the trigger again? Move, pull the trigger again? Run?
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Aeon Amadi
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:08:00 -
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My only issue is that matches with heavy lag will cause utilizes to go crazy. I actually swung nova knives at someone hacking a turret once, got the hit indicator (the red x) and did 0 damage |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:15:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:My only issue is that matches with heavy lag will cause utilizes to go crazy. I actually swung nova knives at someone hacking a turret once, got the hit indicator (the red x) and did 0 damage
Yes, with server side hit detection I don't know how this will ever not be an issue thought :-/ -- more about solving lag, sometimes that's a symptom of your connection, sometimes of congestion on the interwebz, sometimes on the server side... such is the interwebz. |
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:54:00 -
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I do not believe SGs are UP but I still think every map favors long range weapons. As a shotty you need cqc but the long los mean most everyone can kill you before you get anywhere close, the same issue with HMGs. If they designed some urban maps or tight indoor maps I will never leave my shotty dusty again.
But I agree when you get that feel for the shotty every few matches you have ascended to a whole other plain, hit detection be damned. |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:57:00 -
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I think one of the main problems with the Shotgun is the reticle, that big-a circle shows the spread only at the perfect distance. - Too close and the bullets won't spread enough to hit the enemy, making it seems like you missed an easy shot. - To far, and well...it just won't do anything because of the SG's short range, or thebulets spread enough so that the little damage you manage to make is almost not noticeable.
I say just shrink that circle some/ give it some actual crosshairs, and give shotguns an easier to see "Efficiency Rate %",as shotgun is the weapon that could REALLY benefit from it. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 09:57:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:I do not believe SGs are UP but I still think every map favors long range weapons. As a shotty you need cqc but the long los mean most everyone can kill you before you get anywhere close, the same issue with HMGs. If they designed some urban maps or tight indoor maps I will never leave my shotty dusty again.
But I agree when you get that feel for the shotty every few matches you have ascended to a whole other plain, hit detection be damned.
There are a few, most maps have areas that have tight corners. Staying around them and taking the road less traveled to get you to them will keep you alive quite often. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:03:00 -
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Nebra Tene wrote:I think one of the main problems with the Shotgun is the reticle, that big-a circle shows the spread only at the perfect distance. - Too close and the bullets won't spread enough to hit the enemy, making it seems like you missed an obvious shot. - To far, and well...it just won't do anything because of the SG's short range, or thebulets spread too much so the little damage you manage to make is almost not noticeable.
I say just shrink that circle some/ give it some actual crosshairs, and give shotguns an easier to see "Efficiency Rate %",as shotgun is the weapon that could REALLY benefit from it.
I really don't find the crosshairs to be a problem, if you wanted to i guess you could put a "+" in the middle to help the people not used to centering. |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:15:00 -
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Calamity Jane II wrote:Yar its not UP, just have to adjust to not shooting people at 50 yards like before. Its was easier to hit a target at long range with such a massive reticle but up close you really have to fine tune your hand to land a good shot. Its still as deadly as ever, just now requires a more practiced hand to use. In a way uprising has weeded out the casuals and left only the hardened shotgun users, which can be good or can be bad. The only change i want is my damn "KACHINK!" that it used to make, not the damn "Beating a pillow full of leaves with a stick" noise it makes now. "PUhhhhh....."
Master Jane is talking? WTF!
Peace, Godin |
Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:18:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:
There are a few, most maps have areas that have tight corners. Staying around them and taking the road less traveled to get you to them will keep you alive quite often.
Yes there are those couple maps where my shotty never gets a rest but they are 2 out of the many and their variants are pulling the fight toward more open areas. There are a few tight corners on all maps but these make the shotty a defensive weapon great at defending points.
I still think a skilled AR/SR user will kill a skilled SG user a majority of the time. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.12 10:21:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:GLiMPSE X wrote:
There are a few, most maps have areas that have tight corners. Staying around them and taking the road less traveled to get you to them will keep you alive quite often.
Yes there are those couple maps where my shotty never gets a rest but they are 2 out of the many and their variants are pulling the fight toward more open areas. There are a few tight corners on all maps but these make the shotty a defensive weapon great at defending points. I still think a skilled AR/SR user will kill a skilled SG user a majority of the time.
Ya, however, i think a skilled shotty user getting the jump on an AR/SR user from behind will kill them the majority of the time, and possibly a couple of friends nearby.
The chaos you can create in a situation and damage you can cause with a well timed flank is quite impressive. If i had more PC footage I'd show you guys how nasty that can end up with friendly fire. |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.22 14:21:00 -
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Decided to make a Part 2 because of the popularity of this thread.
Teh Part Dos |
GLiMPSE X
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:22:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Calamity Jane II wrote:Yar its not UP, just have to adjust to not shooting people at 50 yards like before. Its was easier to hit a target at long range with such a massive reticle but up close you really have to fine tune your hand to land a good shot. Its still as deadly as ever, just now requires a more practiced hand to use. In a way uprising has weeded out the casuals and left only the hardened shotgun users, which can be good or can be bad. The only change i want is my damn "KACHINK!" that it used to make, not the damn "Beating a pillow full of leaves with a stick" noise it makes now. "PUhhhhh....." Master Jane is talking? WTF! Peace, Godin
Master Jane has left the building. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.23 16:30:00 -
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I miss my shotgun rampages
I don't like logi or assault, and looking at the Uprising scouts....yea....I decided to put my money on a different horse |
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