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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:05:00 -
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? Can someone tell me the major differences? |
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Protocake JR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:07:00 -
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Ass ****?
I can say Ass but not S lut? |
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stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:08:00 -
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Logi has more CPU/PG, more module slots, and can use more equipment. |
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:08:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Ass ****?
I can say Ass but not S lut?
Oh snap typo ![Shocked](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) |
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Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:08:00 -
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OP, only if you are bending over a lot...
Quote:Since everyone runs a Cal Logi suit am I a tool for going with Asslut? |
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KrazyEyeKilla
Greek Death Squad
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:08:00 -
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Sidearm is the main difference. Cal logi is the better suit at the moment though i read on the feedback page, CCp are looking at adjusting the way they work. |
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:09:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Logi has more CPU/PG, more module slots, and can use more equipment.
Do you think it will be changed in the future since im a long way away from even using one yet? I thought they would maybe nerf the logi so thats why I was thinking assault. |
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Green Living
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:12:00 -
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I'm the only tool that went Amarr Assault. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png) |
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:15:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Ass ****?
I can say Ass but not S lut?
ass slot works |
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Byozuma Kegawa
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:17:00 -
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I'm an Amarr logistics... guess I'm the tool of tools. |
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Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Frontlinez
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:18:00 -
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no |
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:19:00 -
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Does Assault get better shields at least or what? |
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Protocake JR
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:21:00 -
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Green Living wrote:I'm the only tool that went Amarr Assault. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
I'm right there with you ![Sad](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_sad.png) |
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Nahaalek ClovenShield
TRUE TEA BAGGERS EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:22:00 -
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I dont see Cal logi's that often honestly, i see mostly Cal assault but most games have a nice mix (could just be me). Thats not to say that they are not taken advantage of by some because they are, and require a tweak. Though i wouldnt condone a nerf or messing with other logi's. |
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Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:23:00 -
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Well you get higher movement and strafe speeds, which shouldn't be underestimated. Higher base health makes ip for a mod slot or two. The addition of sidearm also allows for highly effective weapon combos which are not available to Logis.
While the Cal Logi's bonus is definitely the strongest bonus among suits, most of the generic Logi QQ is just that. Generic QQ. |
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:24:00 -
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Nahaalek ClovenShield wrote:I dont see Cal logi's that often honestly, i see mostly Cal assault but most games have a nice mix (could just be me). Thats not to say that they are not taken advantage of by some because they are, and require a tweak. Though i wouldnt condone a nerf or messing with other logi's.
Played against some of you guys last night. You guys are good. |
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:26:00 -
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Cass Barr wrote:Well you get higher movement and strafe speeds, which shouldn't be underestimated. Higher base health makes ip for a mod slot or two. The addition of sidearm also allows for highly effective weapon combos which are not available to Logis.
While the Cal Logi's bonus is definitely the strongest bonus among suits, most of the generic Logi QQ is just that. Generic QQ.
Thanks man that helped. Side to side strafing is one of my biggest issues with this game so that is good news.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries Omega Commission
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:27:00 -
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you are a tool if you intend to use a logi suit as a pure assault. Because, you know, once that nerfhammer hits, you'll be left with an useless suit for your intended role. |
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Wakko03
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:27:00 -
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I have both at proto racial levels since CCP decided my ticket to respec was timed out (i'll just assume it had something to do with them not getting my email affirm from their downtime and it will still go thru), and my new one is about to be pending; all you'll notice is that you can make more money in the assault suit if you don't mind using it with an exile and some advanced/complex level modules or you can sacrifice 1 of your low slots and put a cpu upgrade on it. The logi uses so much more equipment & modules that it costs more in certain situations and needs more PG to do it for the inteded role. Don't forget that Flux is necessary for all that shield to be defeated in some moments. You could also go all bpo modules with them, but you can do that on level 1 suit so stacking them just seems silly unless you just want a goof suit.
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SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:41:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:I have both at proto racial levels since CCP decided my ticket to respec was timed out (i'll just assume it had something to do with them not getting my email affirm from their downtime and it will still go thru), and my new one is about to be pending; all you'll notice is that you can make more money in the assault suit if you don't mind using it with an exile and some advanced/complex level modules or you can sacrifice 1 of your low slots and put a cpu upgrade on it. The logi uses so much more equipment & modules that it costs more in certain situations and needs more PG to do it for the inteded role. Don't forget that Flux is necessary for all that shield to be defeated in some moments. You could also go all bpo modules with them, but you can do that on level 1 suit so stacking them just seems silly unless you just want a goof suit.
Thanks. |
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Anita Hardone
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 00:59:00 -
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Green Living wrote:I'm the only tool that went Amarr Assault. ![Ugh](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_ugh.png)
I chose Medium Amarr, i like it. But having 500+ shields to sponge a proto nade is pretty cool too.
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Shledder
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:22:00 -
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Reviving this topic to point out "QQ."
______________Logi ck.0_______Assault ck.0 Shield_________679___________517 Armor_________239___________150 S. Recharge____20____________31.25 S. Delay_______2.28___________2.76 S. Depleted____3.43___________4.41 Armor Rep_____5_____________0 Move Spd______4.23___________5
This is a comparison I did of two loadouts using the Dust514 Fitting Tool. These both assume a duvolle AR, Core grenades, no sidearm (the assault didn't have the CPU) and no equipment.
We all know the logi suits are meant to utilize equipment, but if you fit them like an assault, they can do the assault position with nearly 250 more EHP, a shorter shield delay, self armor repair (as much as a complex repairer would be needed on the assault) with only a minor drop in speed and shield recharge.
I have to wonder if the logi suits were meant to be better, or if CCP honestly thought people wouldn't ditch the equipment for more EHP?
tl;dr logi suit works better than the assault, wtf? |
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Laurent Cazaderon
What The French CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:48:00 -
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Biggest problem of logis :Too many modules slots Biggest problem of assault : ridiculous amount of PG\CPU that makes fitting a proto a living hell. Especially the gallente one with all those greedy armor modules that uses the same fitting slot as cpu and pg extenders. |
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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.06.11 22:51:00 -
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Laurent Cazaderon wrote:Biggest problem of logis :Too many modules slots Biggest problem of assault : ridiculous amount of PG\CPU that makes fitting a proto a living hell. Especially the gallente one with all those greedy armor modules that uses the same fitting slot as cpu and pg extenders.
Lol.
Look at the Scout suit, can hardly fit a Duvolle Specialist without having to cut out some HP or Complex Kins. |
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I VOTED FOR-KODOS
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2013.06.11 23:55:00 -
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Im thinking about sticking with the basic. the level 3 isnt too bad and the level 4 looks great for a variety of roles. i do like have the logi suit for nanohives and spawn beacons but think that is better reserved for domination or ambush game types and i play skirmish most of the time anyway. |
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