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Azrael Aranis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.07 20:47:00 -
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This has happened to me several (8-9) times now; an LAV comes charging towards me at full speed, so I start throwing (standard) AV grenades at it. The first one connects just fine and the LAV takes damage as normal. Then I toss a second grenade which hits the LAV head on but does not connect, giving me a clear view of an AV grenade bouncing off into the distance as my merc gets a face full bumper. In a few cases I've been killed by LAV's and killed them post mortum; when the AV grenade bounced back over my head, and the LAV reconnected with it a second later.
Now is this an intentional mechanic? i.g. does the grenade have to travel a minimum distance? Or will it not connect at certain speeds?
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Obsidian Rex
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.07 21:41:00 -
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AV Grenades are rockets. Your argument is invalid sir. |
Azrael Aranis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.06.08 05:52:00 -
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Obsidian Rex wrote:AV Grenades are rockets. Your argument is invalid sir.
Oh I see,.. well in that case good sir, allow me;
"for Rex" wrote:
This has happened to me several (8-9) times now; an LAV comes charging towards me at full speed, so I start throwing rockets at it. The first one connects just fine and the LAV takes damage as normal. Then I toss a second rocket which hits the LAV head on but does not connect, giving me a clear view of a Rocket bouncing off into the distance as my merc gets a face full bumper. In a few cases I've been killed by LAV's and killed them post mortum; when the rocket bounced back over my head, and the LAV reconnected with it a second later.
Now is this an intentional mechanic? i.g. does the rocket have to travel a minimum distance? Or will it not connect at certain speeds?
So if: AV grenades = rockets, is said rocket supposed to bounce of a speeding LAV?
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Kastigrar
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:27:00 -
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At close range they will usually not detonate on LAV's.
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Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
189
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:35:00 -
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Cook it a bit, most likely you will be killed before you get the chance to release it, but it has gotten me killed by suicide and the vehicle too, cheapest suit with nothing but proto AV grenades works for the annoying ones.
It also has the effect of stopping the LAV in its tracks for a second or two, if your team mates are on the ball or there are some swarms in the area, you may be able to get the darn thing to finally go boom. |
Azrael Aranis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
7
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Posted - 2013.06.08 07:43:00 -
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Wakko03 wrote:Cook it a bit, most likely you will be killed before you get the chance to release it, but it has gotten me killed by suicide and the vehicle too, cheapest suit with nothing but proto AV grenades works for the annoying ones.
It also has the effect of stopping the LAV in its tracks for a second or two, if your team mates are on the ball or there are some swarms in the area, you may be able to get the darn thing to finally go boom.
I'll give that a try, better to go down and take them with you than go down alone.
But; is it intentional that they will not connect at close range/high speed? It doesnt seem to be an issue with stationairy ones (although you would probably kill yourself with the blast from the LAV). Or is it some kind of weird physics bug? |
Wakko03
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
190
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Posted - 2013.06.08 08:12:00 -
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With that your guess is as good as mine.
I to get the first one to actually hit a few times, tossed the second which would always miss and then ended holding the 3 and cooking it by accident when the lav got out of range and I almost gave up-- wasting the last grenade from my last nano-hive by tossing it away; luckily a second LAV came up out of nowhere as they are prone to do, and I got the kill and robbed them of the kill points, maybe they got an assist for my suicide as that happens sometimes.
You will still die a lot if you are successful because at full speed the lav will continue forward and kill you anyway, hence your cheapest suit. Otherwise just kill the foot mobiles not in a vehicle and then climb up somewhere high and wait them out, they will drive around like idiots the whole match and give you time to learn how to beat them up.
Also up your nano-hives, you want one that gives you ammo as fast as possible so avoid the K17 (healing) and the allotek as they give you Armor Repair first and always, the K2 works against the standard and advanced but you will need a proto-type one with the increased ammo supply rate. |
Azrael Aranis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
8
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:13:00 -
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Well I die alot to begin with, so that's no big deal for me ;).
And it makes sense to me that the LAV would kill you if you blow it up at point blank range whilst it is speeding towards you, whether you get hit in the face by flaming wreckage, or are killed in the following explosion. And ofcourse; luring an LAV in to a collision course with some difficult terrain, ambushing it from a position it cant reach, or trying to get it to flip itself over on a hill, is a much safer approach than standing in the open chucking AV grenades at it. But you are not always in a position that allows such tactics, and that's when the "bouncing" AV grenades get frustrating. As the LAV not only kills you, but half the squad your running with because the grenade didnt go off.
On a sude nite: standing in the open, luring LAV's and killing them with AV grenades is just a lot of fun (I might have been a Rodeoclown in a past life) and actually works pretty well when facing militia LAV's. The drivers get so obsessed with adding another piece of roadkill to his/her streak that they start to suffer from tunnel vision.
I had a very memorable dual with a Logi LAV a little over a week ago; I tossed 3 AV grenades at it, managed to dodge it, put down 2 nanohives and started hoping around between them. It lasted for a good two minutes before he got splattered by a passing rail tank half-way through an 8 point turn to get to me, and i got taken out by a sniper that was probably just sitting back watching the show.
I use the K-2 Nanohives on most of my suits, seeing as I don't have the SP to run around in a fully fitted proto suit I mainly stick to adv fittings. I'm currently working on upping the tank on my suits, and once i get that set up I'll get the lvl 5 equipment modules, after that I'll look into a primairy weapon and proto nades. Good call on the repping hives though: didn't know they prioritized armor. |
KiN JRB
GRIM MARCH
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Posted - 2013.07.22 10:14:00 -
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Av grenades need more of an area of effect, seems like they dont even targey from 5 meters, seems more effective to use as mines n even then they have to be ran over Ahem 3 meters |
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