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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:

Shadowswipe wrote:

Charizard Zakalwe wrote:

I think squad member is a bit unneccessary. almost everyone will be going in in a squad, but it's case of better to have it and not need it so if it's already made I don't see a problem with it. Just put it at the bottom of the list so it doesn't get in the way of the important ****.

It is quite necessary. You need a way to gate off completely new members until they prove themselves worthy. Big corps that own lots of districts have tons of applications and if they want to grow their numbers safely, there needs to be a switch to turn on when they are ready to participate in a PC battle. Yet, we don't want to give people "Squad Leader" because some people are just better soldiers than they are leaders.

Squad leader rights can be given to non-squad leaders so that they can enter PC battles freely. It don't imagine it requires you must actively be squad leader to enter PC.
In practice, I imagine that most corps will use the Squad Leader function much more than the Squad Member as its easier to manage small trusted networks than having widespread PC rights.


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Shadowswipe WarRavens 98	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:09:00 - [1] - Quote The squad leader role would be nice. In the future, it would be nice to just let every squad member join any battle and be able to form squads on the war barge. Once PC battles become old hat, the squad leader role will be able to take the stress off higher officers that shouldn't be bothered with the dragging other alliance and mercenaries in. At the same time, this allows us to give more promotions where they are needed, without fearing that we are giving too much control to sell districts at a whim to too many people. The more control we have, the better.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 98	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:36:00 - [2] - Quote Roles are needed asap and these look like a great start. If these do not get red flagged any time soon, how soon can we expect these roles to be implemented?
Shadowswipe WarRavens 99	Posted - 2013.06.06 16:41:00 - [3] - Quote Aqil Aegivan wrote: Squad member should be included. What happens when a squad member's voice coms bug out in the warbarge and they have to reset? What happens when a squad member gets stuck on the loading screen and has to reset? What happens when a reserve needs to join because someone has DC'd? In each case a squad leader (who has a stack of additional responsibilities) would have to leave and bring them into the battle. Either you include the squad member role or a lot of corps will resort to giving everyone squad leader roles purely because CCP couldn't be bothered to implement another role. Yes, is should be included. There are many people in corps you trust to control themselves and join, but it is really hard to trust everyone with the ability to pull people outside of the corp into the fight.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 99	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:14:00 - [4] - Quote Charizard Zakalwe wrote: I think squad member is a bit unneccessary. almost everyone will be going in in a squad, but it's case of better to have it and not need it so if it's already made I don't see a problem with it. Just put it at the bottom of the list so it doesn't get in the way of the important ****. It is quite necessary. You need a way to gate off completely new members until they prove themselves worthy. Big corps that own lots of districts have tons of applications and if they want to grow their numbers safely, there needs to be a switch to turn on when they are ready to participate in a PC battle. Yet, we don't want to give people "Squad Leader" because some people are just better soldiers than they are leaders.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 99	Posted - 2013.06.06 17:27:00 - [5] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: Shadowswipe wrote: Charizard Zakalwe wrote: I think squad member is a bit unneccessary. almost everyone will be going in in a squad, but it's case of better to have it and not need it so if it's already made I don't see a problem with it. Just put it at the bottom of the list so it doesn't get in the way of the important ****. It is quite necessary. You need a way to gate off completely new members until they prove themselves worthy. Big corps that own lots of districts have tons of applications and if they want to grow their numbers safely, there needs to be a switch to turn on when they are ready to participate in a PC battle. Yet, we don't want to give people "Squad Leader" because some people are just better soldiers than they are leaders. Squad leader rights can be given to non-squad leaders so that they can enter PC battles freely. It don't imagine it requires you must actively be squad leader to enter PC. In practice, I imagine that most corps will use the Squad Leader function much more than the Squad Member as its easier to manage small trusted networks than having widespread PC rights. That is just it though, Squad Leader is more widespread PC rights than Squad Member. Which in turn will be easier to manage with the Squad Member tag than without it.
Shadowswipe WarRavens 103	Posted - 2013.06.07 15:28:00 - [6] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: We are looking at making it so that if you are in a match and invite someone to your squad it pulls them directly into the match. If we can do this then I believe we can remove the need for the squad members role. Removing the squad member role is really nice because it means having to manage less roles. And when only directors and the CEO can assign/remove them this becomes important. We should try and get all the functionality needed into the other roles. If we have terrestrial logistics officer for managing planetary conquest stuff, what about terrestrial combat officer for squad leader stuff? Let us decided if there are too many roles to manage. Let the option and choice be ours. Leave in Squad Member and those that don't want to hassle with it will just use Squad Leader. I for one and I know many others will like the extra fine tuning of roles. Just cause some don't see the need or want extra roles to look at, doesn't mean it won't be useful to organized corps. I look forward to being able to tag each person as planetary combat ready. I don't see it taking more than 5 minutes of development time to remove the squad leader functions and making a new class with only the one option to join a district battle. Don't take away a useful option that will for sure be used by enough corps to warrant the small extra time to write the code.