.... this is one of the most cohesive things i've seen on it, i wish i could give you plus 10 for it, very well put.

i do hope this stuff comes down the line. we may be clones, but we still have vocal cords

Immersion like this please

Utilizing squad command spaces sounds like a good idea; the four you added would make communication much easier for those without mics or in separate squads, especially in public matches. Having people spam the requests would be annoying, but that comes with the feature (unless there was a limit on how often you could request assistance). I can't say I agree with adding shouts in combat though. Having units the game constantly, even occasionally, screaming or shouting in combat while I'm trying to listen and talk to my squad would be annoying. I would have no problem if the feature was added as long as it is a separate option that I have the ability to turn on/off.

What you pointed out would be annoying to people that use headsets and not mics. But then again BF3 has screams and shouts of death and aid during every battle and they don't seem to get in the way of player performance. It all comes down if CCP wants to make the voices either really higin volume or low.

It might take longer than it should but I imagine the volume control for this aspect of the game could be added as well.

What you pointed out would be annoying to people that use headsets and not mics. But then again BF3 has screams and shouts of death and aid during every battle and they don't seem to get in the way of player performance. It all comes down if CCP wants to make the voices either really higin volume or low.

Oh Behjezuz. People Talking? What a revolutionary Idea! Thank God for People who Break New walls for this Game to Expand.

Maybe Just Cut the Cussing, because this a Console Game, and we all know of the Annoying 12-year Olds who go "Oooohhh, You said a bad word!" Amazing That an Idea Like this Got the Deserved attention!

The Only Disagreement I have with you Besides what I stated Prior, Being about the Sound Design. Its a little difficult to get a good sound for something that Exists only in a Fictional World. That Might Lengthen the time it takes for now Weapons Sounds.

AHHHH, MY FAIC!
MY SHIELDS ARE DOWN, GUGUGURAGGA
HERK, BLEAH!

Yes, I would Scream That as My Face is melted by the Sun.

Yes I can imagine creating sound effects for things that don't exist is really hard. But I like the sounds as they are right now. Al CCP needs to dois polish them.

It's a great plan in theory, but in practice you are just going to have the Wilheim scream everywhere

Lol, immersion.

If you want realistic battlefield immersion then all you would hear is ringing in your ears and maybe a faint large explosion due to real rifle and artillery noises blasting out your eardrums. In a dropsuit you would probably only hear the comms. Why would you need to hear screams and other minor sounds in a dropsuit. I'd much rather have system alert sounds from your dropsuit reporting activity like Jarvis from ironman.

Voice chat is free now. IMO, any option-restricted system of communication is redundant given that.

Any additional voices added in would interfere with voice chat which is essential to team play.

Great topic.

I thought about putting the discussion of sound effects and environmental sound improvements in the new player experience thread.

Yes, the sounds need much revision. The sounds put you even further in the game, they are one of you senses meshing you with the game environment.
Firstly approach sounds from what you know about the factors your merc and the planets.
Everything should have kind of a compressed or buffered sound to it. Hearing things through your suit and within the planets' atmospheres.
The sound of debris blowing and brushing up agianst you, the crunching and foot patter as you run over different surfaces. Weapon sounds should be deeply looked into. Not jsut for the shooter but from the target's end too. Not even the AR shoots standard bullets, these weapons should sound foreign, impressive, and lethal. The sound of a laser burning airborn molecules as a beam sweeps around you, the scorching, burning and piercing sounds of different objects and surfaces around you being shot.

Various explosions should sound extreme. I mean we have weapons that are tearing through advanced metal and shields, it should be a horrific clash of matter with a sound to match.

There should be soo many more audio layers that would make the feeling of playing this game intense.

Another idea that I think would be kind of cool would be to apply in game voice over effects to your voice comm. Like a few predifined effects so when you talk you sound kind of robotic or digital, or like your voice is being filtered through your suits comm system.

Deserved bump

Please put "making this game sound better" somewhere on the to do list.
With the attention the Suns and Moons thread is getting it seems relevant to look into this aspect as well. Sounds combined with visuals are great ingredients for any fps.

lol I love immersion. +1

One could argue that all those shouts in BF3 are brought on by fear and anxiety from being on a battlefield.
People, generally don't like pain, but they don't FEAR it. Pain is a self-preservation mechanism... likely genetically-modded OUT of clone bodies.
Likewise, fear is a self-preservation mechanism. Fear of what? Fear of Death.
When you are Immortal, you don't fear dying, much the same like you don't fear dying if you're playing a game of Mario Bros.

So how can we introduce shouts and screams for an immersive experience, while also recognizing these facts?

Instead of making the clone soldiers scream in fear and agony, give them anger and hatred instead.
They should more or less scream in child-like frustration, throw violent tantrums, and go into fits spewing profanity as they spew blood...
They should laugh as well. Laugh maniacally and insultingly if they kill or get killed.
Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgUI5OMI1pk

BF3 has reactions from normal soldiers. They are people. Mortal. They are normal...

...immortal soldiers are NOT.

A clone army is an unstoppable demonic army filled with crazy people that delight in violence because it's a toy to them now. When two clone armies meet in combat, they don't kill each other. They simply mindlessly engage in violence and annihilate each other's matter over and over and over again, until every natural and available resource is consumed.
The carnage is far worse for a clone soldier. A normal soldier from BF3 would lose his mind, and inevitably his life, on a Dust battlefield...

While I love your idea,it makes me remember playing many hours of F.E.A.R. Where you and most of the soldiers you fought were clones. They made viscious taunts and brought a really brutal and personal feel to the fighting.

However I think it'd be hard to maintain the teen rating if we went that route .

What's wrong with maintaining the Teen raiting? If more tgis game deserves more Mature audience