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Ser Chard
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:58:00 -
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Missile turrets still don't have much use - I use them extensively on my python but that's all they're good for.
Primary issue is that they are impossible to aim. Especially on a moving vehicle. Drop ships can provide a stable platform safe from return fire but they are useless on tanks and labs.
Solutions
1) Fix splash damage
2) Provide slight homing on vehicles. Think overcharged plasma pistol from halo. Or have missiles follow the reticle slightly - not speeding up to catch it but moving laterally at a set rate until its on the reticle or explodes - again, think plasma pistol homing speed.
3) Redo large cycled missile launcher. Rather than barrages this should shoot a steady stream of missiles. This allows the operator to use the visible stream and point of impact to track their target - a significant advantage blasters currently have. Currently you fire a blast, miss, then guess again - this change would allow us to "drag" our aim across a target until we hit then track from there. This also improves the ability to track, providing more time between missiles to adjust aim.
I really want to see Solution 3, it'd make missiles much more viable without requiring adjustment of DPS or other stats - simply fire one missile at a time with 1/4 the reload time.
I know the barrages somewhat define the missiles vs it just being an explosive blaster - that's why you do it to the cycled launcher, which is unique for small turrets but doesn't stand out in the large turret category. We can then see how they perform.
Fixing splash issues would solve Anti Infantry issues and solution 2/3 would allow them to be competitive vs vehicles. Currently they're only good for griefing allied drop ships. |
Ser Chard
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.06.05 02:30:00 -
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Improved range and better tracking (I'd prefer auto tracking vehicles reticle red vs swarm-style locking) would go a long way in vehicle combat.
I get that Rails win at distance. I'm OK with blasters shredding my tank up close. But blasters absolutely shred at midrange too.
Midrange combat goes:
-Blaster tank starts unloading, knows its aim is good because rapid ROF gives instant feedback on hit/miss by monitoring enemy health readout. Stops aiming when damage is done, adjusts when no damage being done.
-Missile tank aims carefully to avoid wasting barrage thus losing time, or rapidly aims and significantly reduces hit chance. Fires and probably misses - maybe one missile hits.
-Blaster tank continues firing and approaches, improving accuracy.
-Missile tank carefully readjusts after each barrage to ensure hit but wasting time or fires wildly and more likely misses. After a missed barrage or two the battle is decided and the missile tank explodes.
Blaster wins vs infantry, vs lavs (which missiles have no hope of hitting) and vs tanks at close AND mid-long range.
At mid range, where it may be difficult to get a perfect sight on your enemy, I believe positive feedback from watching enemy health or shield glow is vital. Aim towards your enemy until you see their health drop or their shield flash - then you know your aim is good. This doesn't work with burst / barrage weapons like missiles.
Missile speed is pretty good in this build - what they need is some other way of improving accuracy. Tracking vs vehicles and a functional splash vs infantry. |
Ser Chard
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.06.05 02:33:00 -
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Also, the reticle is ridiculous. Just make it a dot please, or make the blaster reticle a chevron also. |
Ser Chard
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.06.06 01:47:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:My biggest thing is what is going on with the tiny explosion radius from a missile? Its so small people often simply jump out of the AOE. Missiles should be great anti infantry weapons.
Hah yeah its a little frustrating when a sole guy with an ar runs towards you jumping over each barrage. Too easy to time and thus dodge. He got all the way to my tank and... I think he spit on it, did a little dance and mooned me. All I could do was roll away and find someone else to harass.
I wanna use large missiles but I can't bring myself to severely cripple my abilities as such, especially when risking expensive equipment. I'll play around with plasma cannons on a cheap suit all day but its economically unfeasible to use large missile turrets. |
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