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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:28:00 -
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finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Seraphim Auxiliaries CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:28:00 -
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we talked about this... |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:29:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:we talked about this...
who is we?
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SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:30:00 -
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Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches. |
Grit Breather
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:30:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf? Has someone taken away your favourite toy? |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:32:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches.
lol nice you think this way about your corp as well? because i know alot of them who use it. and trust me im skilled. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:34:00 -
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Grit Breather wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf? Has someone taken away your favourite toy?
im going to do good regardless of what gun i use skill has nothing to do with the gun u use.
but its quite sad that so many people who werent skilled enough to kill cried about the gun that made them rage. so im wondering what excuse or nerf cries will we hear next? |
SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:36:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches. lol nice you think this way about your corp as well? because i know alot of them who use it. and trust me im skilled.
Please point me in the direction of a whine thread about the TAC change started by an imp. Imps adapt bro, be a good little boy and figure out the next FOTM. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:40:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches. lol nice you think this way about your corp as well? because i know alot of them who use it. and trust me im skilled. Please point me in the direction of a whine thread about the TAC change started by an imp. Imps adapt bro, be a good little boy and figure out the next FOTM.
i adapt as well but that didnt answer my question. instead you completly ignored it. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:43:00 -
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Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF |
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SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:49:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:
i adapt as well but that didnt answer my question. instead you completly ignored it.
Damn, you totally got me. I think Imps are all scrub, now their going to kick me out. Man, you're so smart and pro clearly CCP needs to rethink this nerf.
Seriously get over yourself. This is why the TAC needed a nerf, scrubs like you that think they are the ****. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:49:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:...be a good little boy and figure out the next FOTM.
I think we all know it's the scrambler rifle or the Duvalle assault rifle. In particular the Duvalle, as everyone with a Tac is already specc'd into it. = )
That said, I'm ensuring that the Laser makes a comeback. That thing is hardly broken, especially when everyone and their brother is shield tanking in a CalLogi suit. = D
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:50:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF
thats what im saying people will cry about the power and range next just to make it easy on them the funny thing is the crutch was for them because if "skill" really had anything to do with it then the real adapt woulda been done and people wouldnt of cried about getting it nerfed. but like i said whats next power or range? |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:53:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF thats what im saying people will cry about the power and range next just to make it easy on them the funny thing is the crutch was for them because if "skill" really had anything to do with it then the real adapt woulda been done and people wouldnt of cried about getting it nerfed. but like i said whats next power or range?
Probably both at once next Seriously though, how hard is it to take cover and stop and pop none of this strafing bunny hopping BS that went out of style a decade ago Hell and even if you are out in the open call in an LAV, its like free moving cover |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:53:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:
i adapt as well but that didnt answer my question. instead you completly ignored it.
Damn, you totally got me. I think Imps are all scrub, now their going to kick me out. Man, you're so smart and pro clearly CCP needs to rethink this nerf. Seriously get over yourself. This is why the TAC needed a nerf, scrubs like you that think they are the ****.
like i said before.. the crutch was for the people who couldnt catch up. you got killed by it and cried on the forums about it. adapt as you say would of never got it nerfed. so suck on that and swallow. |
GLiMPSE X
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:54:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF thats what im saying people will cry about the power and range next just to make it easy on them the funny thing is the crutch was for them because if "skill" really had anything to do with it then the real adapt woulda been done and people wouldnt of cried about getting it nerfed. but like i said whats next power or range?
It needed the balance changes they've proposed. I use the TAC because I have to to stay competitive with other TAC users. That shouldn't be the case. If a weapon is used because using anything else puts you at a significant disadvantage... it's Over-Powered. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:58:00 -
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That, and the fact that it's got the damage output of a proto large blaster turret.
Kinda adsurd, that. |
SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:58:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:
i adapt as well but that didnt answer my question. instead you completly ignored it.
Damn, you totally got me. I think Imps are all scrub, now their going to kick me out. Man, you're so smart and pro clearly CCP needs to rethink this nerf. Seriously get over yourself. This is why the TAC needed a nerf, scrubs like you that think they are the ****. like i said before.. the crutch was for the people who couldnt catch up. you got killed by it and cried on the forums about it. adapt as you say would of never got it nerfed. so suck on that and swallow.
Again, I will refer you to my previous statement. Show me an imp that asked for the nerf (Hint that includes me). I'm more than happy to leave it the way it is, TAC doesn't bother me, but I do recognize that the gun isn't balanced statistically with other weapons. I simply think you need to stop whining about it and pick something else to use if your so upset.
I'm sorry you made the assumption that I was calling you bad because you were using an imbalanced weapon, but really I assumed your poor skill level because you're complaining about a nerf like a wimp. HTFU |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 08:59:00 -
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GLiMPSE X wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF thats what im saying people will cry about the power and range next just to make it easy on them the funny thing is the crutch was for them because if "skill" really had anything to do with it then the real adapt woulda been done and people wouldnt of cried about getting it nerfed. but like i said whats next power or range? It needed the balance changes they've proposed. I use the TAC because I have to to stay competitive with other TAC users. That shouldn't be the case. If a weapon is used because using anything else puts you at a significant disadvantage... it's Over-Powered. its a tac rifle. semi auto less kick more accuracy.
not anybody's fault that people just stod there and got shot and or not anybody's fault that they couldnt aim with their fully auto weapon and kill the enemy. thats not the guns fault its the stupid a$$ players fault.
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Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:02:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Bigger question is what's the next "I win button" you cryhards are going to discover. You're a great service to the developers because you're making weapon balance easier for them. |
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:02:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:
i adapt as well but that didnt answer my question. instead you completly ignored it.
Damn, you totally got me. I think Imps are all scrub, now their going to kick me out. Man, you're so smart and pro clearly CCP needs to rethink this nerf. Seriously get over yourself. This is why the TAC needed a nerf, scrubs like you that think they are the ****. like i said before.. the crutch was for the people who couldnt catch up. you got killed by it and cried on the forums about it. adapt as you say would of never got it nerfed. so suck on that and swallow. Again, I will refer you to my previous statement. Show me an imp that asked for the nerf (Hint that includes me). I'm more than happy to leave it the way it is, TAC doesn't bother me, but I do recognize that the gun isn't balanced statistically with other weapons. I simply think you need to stop whining about it and pick something else to use if your so upset. I'm sorry you made the assumption that I was calling you bad because you were using an imbalanced weapon, but really I assumed your poor skill level because you're complaining about a nerf like a wimp. HTFU
lol your funny. but no. not complaining just pointing a fact out. i never ever post threads about nerfing any weapons or suits i really adapt but the reason for the post was. whats next on the b!tch list for cry babies to complain about? |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:05:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Bigger question is what's the next "I win button" you cryhards are going to discover. You're a great service to the developers because you're making weapon balance easier for them.
doesnt really matter dude. ima go in regardless. my kd, stats, and game will prove it build after build. |
SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:05:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:whats next on the b!tch list for cry babies to complain about?
And I'm just "Pointing out a fact" that it's probably going to be about the nerf on the TAC. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:05:00 -
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Imps aren't gonna complain about their bread 'n butter weapon. That would simply be silly. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:08:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:whats next on the b!tch list for cry babies to complain about? And I'm just "Pointing out a fact" that it's probably going to be about the nerf on the TAC.
theres bigger issues in the game other then the tac being yes a powerful weapon. it takes more skill to use it especially in cqc rof isnt that big of a deal but to sit here and say it needs a power nerf is just stupid. its a tac rifle for a reason its supposed to be better then fully auto weapons
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Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:08:00 -
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You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:10:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch.
so a gun that takes skill to use and kill with is a crutch? but running someone over with a jeep isnt a scrub move? stfu |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:11:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch.
You know its really easy to tell the difference between an actual marksman type player and a scrub using the Tac rifle right? With the former youll just take a bunch of damage at once and die, with the scrub youll have a bunch of bullets whizzing around your head as he desperately empties the clip at you hoping for enough lucky hits to put you down
I tend the find that the guys complaining about the Tac and say "I need to use one just to keep up" are the ones with the scrub style of using it |
SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:15:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch. so a gun that takes skill to use and kill with is a crutch? but running someone over with a jeep isnt a scrub move? stfu
Your stupidity boggles my mind. Your response has no correlation to his response at all. If the TAC was a skill weapon than it would reward people who use it after the nerf, like Jenova is waiting for. Rate of Fire doesn't take away its damage and if you're as good as you say you can get headshots and still make the TAC work... And no one even mentioned LAVs.... I think your trying to hard to be a troll now. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:18:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch. You know its really easy to tell the difference between an actual marksman type player and a scrub using the Tac rifle right? With the former youll just take a bunch of damage at once and die, with the scrub youll have a bunch of bullets whizzing around your head as he desperately empties the clip at you hoping for enough lucky hits to put you down I tend the find that the guys complaining about the Tac and say "I need to use one just to keep up" are the ones with the scrub style of using it
lol look im not calling anybody a scrub as i am a gamer and love all kinds of competitive play style. but be foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game. my bad games are 28 and 2 or somewhere along those lines. in chromosome i also used the tac rifle and burst assault rifles in medal of honor battlefield cod and many many other games including mag i used a gun with a scope and always did well. this is the only gme i have ever seen such babies on the forums crying about a rifle that was designed to be more powerful more accurate how is it a crutch?
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ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:19:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:You know, there are actually people waiting to use the TAR after the rebalancing so they don't get associated with scrubs leaning on a crutch. so a gun that takes skill to use and kill with is a crutch? but running someone over with a jeep isnt a scrub move? stfu Your stupidity boggles my mind. Your response has no correlation to his response at all. If the TAC was a skill weapon than it would reward people who use it after the nerf, like Jenova is waiting for. Rate of Fire doesn't take away its damage and if you're as good as you say you can get headshots and still make the TAC work... And no one even mentioned LAVs.... I think your trying to hard to be a troll now. shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:20:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever.
Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:22:00 -
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and the rate of fire. there is only one thing that sucked about it.. modded controllers other then that even with a real gun rof isnt nerfed. it shoots as fast as your finger moves. so how am i stupid for saying this? |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:23:00 -
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IamI3rian wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever. Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance.
i can do it with another gun easily but im afraid people will cry about that as well. lol |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:25:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote: so a gun that takes skill to use and kill with is a crutch? but running someone over with a jeep isnt a scrub move? stfu
The problem with the TAR right now is that it doesn't take skill to use since you can unload in someone's general direction and kill them with incidental damage outside your optimal range due to its large DPS and clip size. It's also too effective in CQC, where the breach should be dominant. LAVs are at least more balanced because you have to steer the damn things without flipping them over lol. Also, if you're still crying about LAV, use an AV weapon. Not hacked EXO grenades because you're too lazy, but an AV weapon that takes up your primary weapon slot. Until you do so, you're nothing but a rock, crying about paper because you're too lazy to run with scissors.
Delta 749 wrote: You know its really easy to tell the difference between an actual marksman type player and a scrub using the Tac rifle right? With the former youll just take a bunch of damage at once and die, with the scrub youll have a bunch of bullets whizzing around your head as he desperately empties the clip at you hoping for enough lucky hits to put you down
I tend the find that the guys complaining about the Tac and say "I need to use one just to keep up" are the ones with the scrub style of using it
I've seen that as well. Out of all the cases where someone is praying and spraying in my general direction, cutting me down with a cluster of lucky shots, I find a handful of players that take well calculated and well placed shots to kill me. Those are the players I respect and those are the ones who use the weapon and will admit to it being a bit OP. I hope that the TAR gets balanced enough so those players can shine with it.
The ones that are using it to stay competitive suffer a sad fate. The TAR may not be for them, but they feel the need to step outside their comfort zone just so they don't get outclassed by a currently classless weapon. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:27:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!!!! |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:28:00 -
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ROF is not gonna fix that weapon, any ROF decrease significant to stop turbo controller abuse is gonna hurt the legitimate user more, same with kick, what that gun needs is an over heat. |
SoCal Ninja
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:29:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:IamI3rian wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever. Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance. i can do it with another gun easily but im afraid people will cry about that as well. lol
You've just been challenged to go 40-2 with a Plasma Cannon. Go. |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:30:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:ROF is not gonna fix that weapon, any ROF decrease significant to stop turbo controller abuse is gonna hurt the legitimate user more, same with kick, what that gun needs is an over heat. Didn't Exmaple Core break down the DPS numbers and reveal that it can out DPS a large blaster turret? |
lordeh42
The Red Guards EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:32:00 -
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Few will use the tac AR after the nerf without the turbo button they will be lost. It will be the same as laser rifles with iron sights, don`t see them used now do you.
Of course they will come up with another weapon and way of hacking it to make up for it. |
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IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:36:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:IamI3rian wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever. Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance. i can do it with another gun easily but im afraid people will cry about that as well. lol
Do it with a "Laser Rifle."
Not an Elm, or a Viziam. Also, it's not as tough as you'd think. Gun still works perfectly fine. = )
Just not against a TAC. = (
Jenova's Witness wrote:The problem with the TAR right now is that it doesn't take skill to use ...
To expand on this, the TAC will:
1) Kill shotguns at CQC range 2) Kill other AR's at 20-45m 3) Kill lasers at laser optimal range (45-60m+) 4) Kill snipers inside the remainder of the guns effective range.
Not to mention the other "niche" weapons like Plasma Cannons (lol), Scrambler Rifles, Mass Drivers etc...
There simply isn't a range (other than extreme sniper range) where the TAC isn't the dominant weapon in the category. Combined with it's other benefits (clip size etc...) and the fact that it comes with other classes of weapons when it's unlocked (fully auto-AR's) all combine to make it a completely ridiculous weapon. |
IamI3rian
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:37:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:hgghyujh wrote:ROF is not gonna fix that weapon, any ROF decrease significant to stop turbo controller abuse is gonna hurt the legitimate user more, same with kick, what that gun needs is an over heat. Didn't Exmaple Core break down the DPS numbers and reveal that it can out DPS a large blaster turret?
It failed. By 3-5 DPS... if memory serves.
It's the thought that counts though. = ) |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:39:00 -
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CCP should orientate on the SCR for the Tac.
The Tac is to strong, everybody knows this, and anybody who denies this is simply for a cheap-advantage over players.
Reduce Clip size to maximum 12 increase Rof, and thats it. |
iceyburnz
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:40:00 -
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Jenova's Witness wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Bigger question is what's the next "I win button" you cryhards are going to discover. You're a great service to the developers because you're making weapon balance easier for them.
My vote: Proto Plasma Cannons.
Nobody has specced above standard yet.
On second thoughts...nah. It will probably be the scrambler rifle.
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:47:00 -
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ITT: TAR users trolling TAR users |
IamI3rian
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:51:00 -
[46] - Quote
dustwaffle wrote:ITT: TAR users trolling TAR users
I'm neither of those things.
That said, it's been too long since we've squadded up. = D |
Jenova's Witness
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
150
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Posted - 2013.06.04 09:51:00 -
[47] - Quote
dustwaffle wrote:ITT: TAR users trolling TAR users Trollception |
Mike Molle
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
35
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Posted - 2013.06.04 10:01:00 -
[48] - Quote
iceyburnz wrote:Jenova's Witness wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Bigger question is what's the next "I win button" you cryhards are going to discover. You're a great service to the developers because you're making weapon balance easier for them. My vote: Proto Plasma Cannons. Nobody has specced above standard yet. On second thoughts...nah. It will probably be the scrambler rifle. I have the Allotek plasma Cannon. your argument is invalid |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
73
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:17:00 -
[49] - Quote
SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:IamI3rian wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever. Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance. i can do it with another gun easily but im afraid people will cry about that as well. lol You've just been challenged to go 40-2 with a Plasma Cannon. Go. yea that wont happen lol plasma cannon completly sucks. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
278
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:24:00 -
[50] - Quote
Pssh, I usually go 200 and -1 with the TAR, so there! (ignores fact that theres only a limited amount of clones, and says "usually" when he means "one time") |
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Mister0Zz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
94
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:25:00 -
[51] - Quote
the second hit detection gets fixed completely snipers will be come the source of all hatred |
True Adamance
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:27:00 -
[52] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Nope now its just more acceptable to be pwned by it. |
Mister0Zz
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
94
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:27:00 -
[53] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:IamI3rian wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:foreal people if you cant kill with it and keep getting killed by it. Admit it its not the gun. i usually go around 30 to 40 kill games with like 2 to 3 deaths per game.
No one EVER (and I mean EVER... anywhere) said they can't get a kill with a TAC. Anywhere. Ever. Also, if you can't put up 40-2 with another gun, you might wanna reconsider your stance. i can do it with another gun easily but im afraid people will cry about that as well. lol You've just been challenged to go 40-2 with a Plasma Cannon. Go. yea that wont happen lol plasma cannon completly sucks.
he said Allotek whelp, there aren't really any proto guns that are bad |
First Prophet
Jaguar Elite
162
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:29:00 -
[54] - Quote
Tac needed the nerf, Anon. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
201
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:32:00 -
[55] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches. lol nice you think this way about your corp as well? because i know alot of them who use it. and trust me im skilled. Trust me we don't need the tar nuthin will change |
Thessit
Quafe Runners
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 20:47:00 -
[56] - Quote
Hay guise!! I'm totally gonna make a call-out thread about how my favorite weapon got nerfed a little bit, but I am totally pro and it doesn't bother me, but I wanted to point out that it kind bothered me but it really didnt. It didn't bother me so much I am going to post over and over and over again to say how skilled and not bothered I am. Hey guise .... guise SERIOUSLY I AM NOT BOTHERED I AM SUPER SKILLFULLY SKILLED!!
Tosser. |
Gotyougood
Planet Express LLC
1
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Posted - 2013.06.04 21:47:00 -
[57] - Quote
The prospect of modded controllers was really the only thing that bothered me about it. That and it was solely responsible for 80% of my deaths. Anything that much more popular has to be looked at, there is a reason everybody was using it after all. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
50
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Posted - 2013.06.04 21:49:00 -
[58] - Quote
I like the TAR for its role, just as I like logi for its role. I don't want people to get confused and think I'm failing at being a TAR-Logi tryhard, and understand that I'm just failing in general. I miss my mass driver though. :( |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
104
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Posted - 2013.06.04 21:50:00 -
[59] - Quote
Thessit wrote:Hay guise!! I'm totally gonna make a call-out thread about how my favorite weapon got nerfed a little bit, but I am totally pro and it doesn't bother me, but I wanted to point out that it kind bothered me but it really didnt. It didn't bother me so much I am going to post over and over and over again to say how skilled and not bothered I am. Hey guise .... guise SERIOUSLY I AM NOT BOTHERED I AM SUPER SKILLFULLY SKILLED!!
Tosser.
<3 |
Jin Robot
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
807
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:05:00 -
[60] - Quote
SoCal Ninja wrote:Thessit wrote:Hay guise!! I'm totally gonna make a call-out thread about how my favorite weapon got nerfed a little bit, but I am totally pro and it doesn't bother me, but I wanted to point out that it kind bothered me but it really didnt. It didn't bother me so much I am going to post over and over and over again to say how skilled and not bothered I am. Hey guise .... guise SERIOUSLY I AM NOT BOTHERED I AM SUPER SKILLFULLY SKILLED!!
Tosser. <3 A lot better than Google Translate. |
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Xender17
Intrepidus XI
138
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:07:00 -
[61] - Quote
Increase recoil. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
75
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:17:00 -
[62] - Quote
Thessit wrote:Hay guise!! I'm totally gonna make a call-out thread about how my favorite weapon got nerfed a little bit, but I am totally pro and it doesn't bother me, but I wanted to point out that it kind bothered me but it really didnt. It didn't bother me so much I am going to post over and over and over again to say how skilled and not bothered I am. Hey guise .... guise SERIOUSLY I AM NOT BOTHERED I AM SUPER SKILLFULLY SKILLED!!
Tosser. funny cuz your corp gets redlined everytime we play against you and im the only one in my corp who uses a tac. scrub shut up |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
60
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:22:00 -
[63] - Quote
Even if they didn't nerf it, I'll just get in my dropship and harass them the whole game. Or just use the murder taxi cause they already have an advantage over me. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
14
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:25:00 -
[64] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Boyo take a look on other weapons (MD for example) and after that start QQ about TAC |
Isaa Quade
PROJECT 86 U
150
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:39:00 -
[65] - Quote
Christ the tears in this thread are delicious.
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Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
120
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:44:00 -
[66] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Can't tell if you're one of the two people that haven't been abusing the hell out of this gun...
Or just one of the people bitchy that you'll need to find a new exploitable mechanic to make up for your own lack of skill...
There's always red line sniping right?
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Helper Friendly
Planetary Response Organization
18
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:02:00 -
[67] - Quote
I thought my solution was better:
Remove TAC AR's we have normal AR's there is no need for a superior range, damage TAC AR. ( Snipers). TAC AR vs GEK = 99% fail for the GEK especially out at optimal TAC range you cant even hit the freaking guy.
A reduce in recoil that's it?
Remove the two stupid TAC AR's problem solved.
You will adjust to the standard Duvolle or GEK just fine. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
79
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:13:00 -
[68] - Quote
Bones McGavins wrote:Pssh, I usually go 200 and -1 with the TAR, so there! (ignores fact that theres only a limited amount of clones, and says "usually" when he means "one time")
yea because i have a 4.kd and rising for no reason because ive done it once. stfu scrub in your scrub corp with no name
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
79
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:30:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mike Poole wrote:[quote=ANON Illuminati]finally gets a lower rof = rate of fire. you guys cried and complained about it and now you get what you want. whats next? when we continue to use this gun and you still get pwned by it you going to complain that its op and ask for a nerf?
Can't tell if you're one of the two people that haven't been abusing the hell out of this gun...
Or just one of the people bitchy that you'll need to find a new exploitable mechanic to make up for your own lack of skill...
There's always red line sniping right? [/quote TRASH. not in my league |
KingBabar
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
738
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:GLiMPSE X wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Im going to laugh my ass off when they realize we still shoot just as quickly since the majority of people using it were just FPS vets used to using marksman weapons Of course thats assuming they dont nerf it down to sniper rifle ROF thats what im saying people will cry about the power and range next just to make it easy on them the funny thing is the crutch was for them because if "skill" really had anything to do with it then the real adapt woulda been done and people wouldnt of cried about getting it nerfed. but like i said whats next power or range? It needed the balance changes they've proposed. I use the TAC because I have to to stay competitive with other TAC users. That shouldn't be the case. If a weapon is used because using anything else puts you at a significant disadvantage... it's Over-Powered. its a tac rifle. semi auto less kick more accuracy. not anybody's fault that people just stod there and got shot and or not anybody's fault that they couldnt aim with their fully auto weapon and kill the enemy. thats not the guns fault its the stupid a$$ players fault.
With a 50% longer range than the standard AR its not the person, its the gun.... |
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
535
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:34:00 -
[71] - Quote
FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again |
ImpureMort
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
97
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:36:00 -
[72] - Quote
seriously ..its one thing to use an op item while its op...it one thing to use an op item that you always use ...(like my charybdis..has had for over a year screw u if u think im using it only now) ....but when the item is balanced and you protest it being balanced you look like a scrub...if you dont like it grab the standard dovoulle and stfu ..if you cant keep up your slaughter now it is because your gun game sucks ..and your prolly crying on here about balance because you know its gunna show |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
227
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:37:00 -
[73] - Quote
ChromeBreaker wrote:FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again
And then he was turned into a red smear on the bumper of an LAV |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
536
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:43:00 -
[74] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again And then he was turned into a red smear on the bumper of an LAV
Proto AFG so many LAV's means ive been getting some serious practice in |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
227
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:46:00 -
[75] - Quote
ChromeBreaker wrote:Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again And then he was turned into a red smear on the bumper of an LAV Proto AFG so many LAV's means ive been getting some serious practice in Getting quite good at taking out all these giant bumble bees...
Ah one of those guys, I had to work out my own counter tactic for that |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
536
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Posted - 2013.06.05 10:53:00 -
[76] - Quote
Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again And then he was turned into a red smear on the bumper of an LAV Proto AFG so many LAV's means ive been getting some serious practice in Getting quite good at taking out all these giant bumble bees... Ah one of those guys, I had to work out my own counter tactic for that
Oh dont get me wrong, getting 3/4 FG hits is a PAIN and it is very map dependant il be honest... but with a bit of ellivation and a nice field of fire... your not quite the dust bunny harvester you once were |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
227
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Posted - 2013.06.05 11:06:00 -
[77] - Quote
ChromeBreaker wrote:Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Delta 749 wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:FInally lol, my heavy is creeping towards being OP again And then he was turned into a red smear on the bumper of an LAV Proto AFG so many LAV's means ive been getting some serious practice in Getting quite good at taking out all these giant bumble bees... Ah one of those guys, I had to work out my own counter tactic for that Oh dont get me wrong, getting 3/4 FG hits is a PAIN and it is very map dependant il be honest... but with a bit of ellivation and a nice field of fire... your not quite the dust bunny harvester you once were
At least until I jump out of the truck I cant tell you how many heavies Ive taken out simply by hopping out of the driver seat and shooting through the smoke cloud while they pat themselves on the back |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
79
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:50:00 -
[78] - Quote
its all good to all you b!tch @$$ haters and trolls. i got a new toy to make you fools rant on the forums about. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2013.06.06 02:51:00 -
[79] - Quote
ANON Illuminati wrote:its all good to all you b!tch @$$ haters and trolls. i got a new toy to make you fools rant on the forums about.
Aluminum crutch? |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
79
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:08:00 -
[80] - Quote
SENATOR KODOS wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:its all good to all you b!tch @$$ haters and trolls. i got a new toy to make you fools rant on the forums about. Aluminum crutch?
and all will feel the wrath. |
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Savage Duece
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:23:00 -
[81] - Quote
SoCal Ninja wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Sorry bro, Skill up and stop relying on imbalance crutches. lol nice you think this way about your corp as well? because i know alot of them who use it. and trust me im skilled. Please point me in the direction of a whine thread about the TAC change started by an imp. Imps adapt bro, be a good little boy and figure out the next FOTM. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=84951&find=unread EVERYONE here whines. Imps just pretend they're trolling when they do it. |
Bethhy
Not Guilty EoN.
39
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Posted - 2013.06.06 03:31:00 -
[82] - Quote
Balancing weapons is all well and good, CCP gave the TAC a 10% damage boost even when people where complaining then.
The problem isn't with the balancing its how they did it... they threw "sense" out the window to make it work.. and its insulting.
there is no longer a ammo clip size increase from the GLU to the Duvolle its a static rate which doesn't make sense even slightly in reality.
The 400 ROF cap is hilarious it actually feels glitchy because the game is imposing some computer generated bullshit telling you your trigger finger is lieing. Semi auto rifles have worked the same way since their inception all of a sudden CCP is telling us in the future, it doesn't work that way anymore because modded controllers > their intelligence
Bullet registry in this game is already horrific as any credible review will tell you, and to reduce the ROF, actively slow down my aiming while tracking a moving target and have no bullet registry when i clearly cant put it any more center mass?
EVERY gun game has some crazy gun nutt's that know every stat and how every weapon works and even how RAIL technology works currently?
CCP has a bunch of people who have no vestment into real world understandings of weapons and this is why their range is hilarious in aspect to any other FPS out there or ever made... this is why their aiming mechanic fixes are thought of second to coloring Aurum suits properly.
Yes we are playing a video game based in fantasy... but the brain still operates in reality and when CCP tries to tell you what is naturally known as true is WRONG and calls it "balancing" i think someone needs to have their wage readjusted, we don't need quick "easy" solutions start thinking outside the box or get back into it. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
79
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Posted - 2013.06.06 07:37:00 -
[83] - Quote
Bethhy wrote:Balancing weapons is all well and good, CCP gave the TAC a 10% damage boost even when people where complaining then.
The problem isn't with the balancing its how they did it... they threw "sense" out the window to make it work.. and its insulting.
there is no longer a ammo clip size increase from the GLU to the Duvolle its a static rate which doesn't make sense even slightly in reality.
The 400 ROF cap is hilarious it actually feels glitchy because the game is imposing some computer generated bullshit telling you your trigger finger is lieing. Semi auto rifles have worked the same way since their inception all of a sudden CCP is telling us in the future, it doesn't work that way anymore because modded controllers > their intelligence
Bullet registry in this game is already horrific as any credible review will tell you, and to reduce the ROF, actively slow down my aiming while tracking a moving target and have no bullet registry when i clearly cant put it any more center mass?
EVERY gun game has some crazy gun nutt's that know every stat and how every weapon works and even how RAIL technology works currently?
CCP has a bunch of people who have no vestment into real world understandings of weapons and this is why their range is hilarious in aspect to any other FPS out there or ever made... this is why their aiming mechanic fixes are thought of second to coloring Aurum suits properly.
Yes we are playing a video game based in fantasy... but the brain still operates in reality and when CCP tries to tell you what is naturally known as true is WRONG and calls it "balancing" i think someone needs to have their wage readjusted, we don't need quick "easy" solutions start thinking outside the box or get back into it.
they fuked the tacs big time now the clip size is equal to the glu. so they converted the duvolle tac to the glue. its such a waist of a weapon. i still use the glue theres no reason to use the duvolle tac its just expensive now nothing to it otherwise. |
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