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Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 204	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:27:00 - [1] - Quote ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 171	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:34:00 - [2] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate. ahem
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1706	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:35:00 - [3] - Quote RuckingFetard wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate. ahem That's really not good enough Something like "we plan to cut damage by , range by *, and so on..." Instead of "we're looking into it"
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 171	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:42:00 - [4] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate. ahem That's really not good enough Something like "we plan to cut damage by , range by *, and so on..." Instead of "we're looking into it" Scattered all over the feedback forums. Check the map specific ones too. Those are CCP LogicLoop's turf
Jenova's Witness The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 142	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:43:00 - [5] - Quote Communication has been horrible as of late. Swiss cheese patch notes, vague dev posts that raise more questions than give answers, and no specific time frame on when certain changes will occur. This was relatively okay during beta, but we're not in beta anymore. We like information, facts, and figures. Instead we're still getting Mickey Mouse banter about trees and flowers.
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1706	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:46:00 - [6] - Quote Liar, we still don't know exactly what they plan to do to the Tac AR, which I don't particularly care about. I'm just saying they have a bad habit of making changes without ever running them by the players. That really needs to stop.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4864	Posted - 2013.06.04 06:57:00 - [7] - Quote CCP Remant said something about lowering the RoF, lowering the magazine, increasing Hipfire and a few other adjustments. Most of it was based on the feedback from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001 . They are not going to touch damage or range yet. Numbers exactly where probably the product of internal testing however.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 204	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:01:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Remant said something about lowering the RoF, lowering the magazine, increasing Hipfire and a few other adjustments. Most of it was based on the feedback from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001 . They are not going to touch damage or range yet. Numbers exactly where probably the product of internal testing however. I am aware of that, but I am talking more about them posting a timetable of future updates, with estimated dates on content patches and fixes, etc. I honestly find the Tac AR fine, I can take them out in one shot with my Scrambler Rifle...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4864	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:06:00 - [9] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Remant said something about lowering the RoF, lowering the magazine, increasing Hipfire and a few other adjustments. Most of it was based on the feedback from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001 . They are not going to touch damage or range yet. Numbers exactly where probably the product of internal testing however. I am aware of that, but I am talking more about them posting a timetable of future updates, with estimated dates on content patches and fixes, etc. I honestly find the Tac AR fine, I can take them out in one shot with my Scrambler Rifle... Well we will all have to wait and see what the restructuring of Dust 514 studio is going to do for us. The Community Team for dust is getting some backup soon enough though.
Shouper of BHD Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 145	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:11:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Remant said something about lowering the RoF, lowering the magazine, increasing Hipfire and a few other adjustments. Most of it was based on the feedback from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001 . They are not going to touch damage or range yet. Numbers exactly where probably the product of internal testing however. I am aware of that, but I am talking more about them posting a timetable of future updates, with estimated dates on content patches and fixes, etc. I honestly find the Tac AR fine, I can take them out in one shot with my Scrambler Rifle... Well we will all have to wait and see what the restructuring of Dust 514 studio is going to do for us. The Community Team for dust is getting some backup soon enough though. any word on the progress on WP award for vehicle support modules? also the Tac AR needs range and damage so I`m glad that as far as we know nothing changed there.

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 581	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:13:00 - [11] - Quote Sloth9230 wrote: RuckingFetard wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate. ahem That's really not good enough Something like "we plan to cut damage by , range by *, and so on..." Instead of "we're looking into it" the most common response is : This will be considered for future implementation that means nothing. its like they want to say nothing but just sound like they cared. the next one is looking into it. and given the dev track record they like big sweeping changes with little to no notice till the change takes place. that's the worse way to interact with your players and to make changes.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 176	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:24:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: CCP Remant said something about lowering the RoF, lowering the magazine, increasing Hipfire and a few other adjustments. Most of it was based on the feedback from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=76001 . They are not going to touch damage or range yet. Numbers exactly where probably the product of internal testing however. I am aware of that, but I am talking more about them posting a timetable of future updates, with estimated dates on content patches and fixes, etc. I honestly find the Tac AR fine, I can take them out in one shot with my Scrambler Rifle... Well we will all have to wait and see what the restructuring of Dust 514 studio is going to do for us. The Community Team for dust is getting some backup soon enough though. You say " will all have to wait and see what the restructuring of Dust 514 studio is going to do for us" like the general public knows anything about this??? Unless im totally missing the public posts on this stuff, your vague assumption is a prime example of the communication gap between "The community" and "The Devs" ......?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4864	Posted - 2013.06.04 07:36:00 - [13] - Quote Shouper of BHD wrote: any word on the progress on WP award for vehicle support modules? also the Tac AR needs range and damage so I`m glad that as far as we know nothing changed there. Last I heard it would require rewriting the entire WP system over again. Which I am all for if it means more WPs regardless of how you play. Also I don't have a hard confirm on damage and range not getting touched this is mostly based on CCP's Remnant's comments from last week.
OZAROW Elements Of Death Elite 22	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:00:00 - [14] - Quote True problem is the forum ! Whine whine sound like pigs all anyone does is bit$$ nerf the forum for everyone but corp CEOs have group discussions on corp chat every sun, then they post till wed, ccp fixes till following wed, problem solved 7000 people whining will make ccp people quit jobs due to friggen stress overload, they got enough problems with hackers an shi$ so don't fix the ar turn most things back to before, fix a few target aiming an map glitches, make nova knives charge an run, make heavies slower with more armor, fix the needle an make the shotty work better than this but less than before, fix the canon, make the market, make it possible to steal an sell vehicles on open market , skill your character an quit crying the game is supposed to be long, fun an. Take a lot of time to have a dope character so ccp ur doing great fix these problems in a day or two give the cry babies a million sp for a shut up prize an call it a day
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 582	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:17:00 - [15] - Quote they would have less stress if they didn't do big sweeping changes and waiting for the player base to tell them why its wrong.
Jenova's Witness The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 142	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:19:00 - [16] - Quote ladwar wrote: they would have less stress if they didn't do big sweeping changes and waiting for the player base to tell them why its wrong. And even less stress when they try to play it safe after they make those big sweeping changes. Refer to the TAC AR.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 582	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:27:00 - [17] - Quote I think that's called ignoring the truth. they tend to do that which is why it toke a week for them to realize that HAVs turrets were broken under direct pressure from all drivers that its broken with video proof. and another week from them to realize the players were right on how it was broken but once they did realize that it toke less than a day to fix so what should of toke a 3days max, toke 2 weeks to fix for something game breaking.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 359	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:38:00 - [18] - Quote I wouldn't post time lines or lists either because if they don't meet the time line or the list of problems then that are call lazy, liars and hacks. This forum gets what it deserves and the real problem is impatient people who don't think about the game as a whole or consider the amount of work it takes to complete a very difficult task.
Jenova's Witness The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 143	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:44:00 - [19] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: I wouldn't post time lines or lists either because if they don't meet the time line or the list of problems then that are call lazy, liars and hacks. This forum gets what it deserves and the real problem is impatient people who don't think about the game as a whole or consider the amount of work it takes to complete a very difficult task. I'm not sure what everyone's point of view on timelines are, so I'll share my personal expectations. A simple 2-3 months for x changes, 6-12 months for new content would go a long way of giving people an idea on what to expect. I know CCP has this big master plan that they're secretive about, but share a little bit here and there so we can have something to look forward to. I also miss those Dev videos they used to do, previewing new content. What ever happened to that?
OZAROW Elements Of Death Elite 22	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:48:00 - [20] - Quote I say fix the maps first, cuz getting stuck should never happen in a game, ar shoot far as hell but if my sg targeting or noa charging run was in effect then I could deal with it but getting killed cuz the Velcro map grabbed u that's different if my shotty hit you when I aimed at you that tac isn't gonna matter. Fix the map fix the never ending circle, fix the in game boots that's more important at least that won't make people wanna quit fix the guns later, fix the needles fix the ladder or vehicle or turret 0 button fix the main things that shouldn't be broken an when thats done fix the guns it's better the game play is perfect, Shield up, armor up, don't walk In front of a heavy or something that's gonna whoop you, play smart! Fix the mainstuff when that's perfect fix the little crap, least if the guns are crazy ur not gonna fall in a Velcro hole u can run! Fix that stuff first the rest I can wait for

ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 582	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:49:00 - [21] - Quote I hate to break this to you but most games have a quick turn around when the community report a problem even faster when theres video proof rather then dismissing the players as bad like they did. so im not happy that the simple fix toke 10 times longer then it should of only because the devs dismissed video proof and reports. plus swiss cheese patch notes just hurts that connection to the players which is the best way to describe theirs.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries 178	Posted - 2013.06.04 11:47:00 - [22] - Quote LOL people post true events of CCP and CPM alike not properly communicating with the community and the posts get deleted and thread cleaned up running in favor of CCP... Sounds like great communication and transparency to me...
Allah's Snackbar Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 57	Posted - 2013.06.04 12:22:00 - [23] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: LOL people post true events of CCP and CPM alike not properly communicating with the community and the posts get deleted and thread cleaned up running in favor of CCP... Sounds like great communication and transparency to me... Edit: For those who missed it " CPM Iron Wolf Saber makes a post referring to communication possibly improving when a current "Dust Studios Restructure" Is complete.... " I respond with a, "Well that's funny Mr.CPM because none of the general public has heard of such restructure and for you to post that implies you think us, "The "community" has been put in the loop of information.. ? You assuming this shows how big of a gap there really is in the communication department.. Post picks up traction - Post ignored by CPM - My post and other posts shining light on extremely accurate portrayals of CCP and CPM's lack of communication deleted... Transparency at its finest... "Restructure" I suspect another 20% have been identified. Restructure as in close maybe? It must be hideously expensive to develop under that model. Timezones all out of whack, long expensive flights. And sounds like CCP are going to spin madly now and suppress the forums. Interesting.
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 369	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:07:00 - [24] - Quote Allah's Snackbar wrote: I suspect another 20% have been identified. Restructure as in close maybe? It must be hideously expensive to develop under that model. Timezones all out of whack, long expensive flights. And sounds like CCP are going to spin madly now and suppress the forums. Interesting. EDIT: Just reading that original thread. It would seem that the CPM are letting a bit out of the bag that CCP aren't that keen on. There was another thread before that smelt of PR treatment as well. Hmmmm. EDIT: It would seem you are reading far too much into IWS's well-known "freestyle" use of the English language and building yourself a tinfoil bridge to nowhere. While the CPM are indeed letting a lot more out of the bag these days and things are always changing for CCP, one thing that they aren't keen on is shutting down Shanghai any time soon. Sorry to report that your apocalyptic end for Dust514 will have to be postponed and that CCP will not be spinning madly and suppressing the forums.
Smoky The Bear Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel 100	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:15:00 - [25] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. I can deal with the problems in-game, but the annoying thing is that we have no idea when we will get any updates on this at all. CCP, please stop leaving us in the dark - that is primarily what is causing all of this hate. this is the TRUE problem for us.. not for them.. they dont read this
Xocoyol Zaraoul Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 304	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:17:00 - [26] - Quote Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. The problem is Real Life happens and delays are inevitable, and so when they have to shift their timeline and modify it, half of the little ***** on this self-entitled troll-infested ADHD forum throw a temper tantrum saying "Waaaaaah CCP YOU PROMISED ME A UNICORN TODAY AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING NEXT WEEK U BROK UR PROMISE!" I'm not surprised that CCP prefers to keep their timelines hidden/nebulous for the most part.
Aesiron Kor-Azor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 216	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:21:00 - [27] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Aesiron Kor-Azor wrote: ...is the lack of active feedback from the devs. It would be nice for them to post a timetable for the next year to outline their aims; such as introducing player market, estimated dates for patches with listed content, etc. The problem is Real Life happens and delays are inevitable, and so when they have to shift their timeline and modify it, half of the little *** on this self-entitled troll-infested ADHD forum throw a temper tantrum saying "Waaaaaah CCP YOU PROMISED ME A UNICORN TODAY AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING NEXT WEEK U BROK UR PROMISE!" I'm not surprised that CCP prefers to keep their timelines hidden/nebulous for the most part. Why do you people exaggerate to the extreme? All I am asking for is a timetable for when CCP plans updates within the next year... I am NOT asking for some new content next week. Get the out of here, exaggerating ** head.
Heinrich Jagerblitzen D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire 369	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:22:00 - [28] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: The problem is Real Life happens and delays are inevitable, and so when they have to shift their timeline and modify it, half of the little ***** on this self-entitled troll-infested ADHD forum throw a temper tantrum saying "Waaaaaah CCP YOU PROMISED ME A UNICORN TODAY AND NOW YOU ARE SAYING NEXT WEEK U BROK UR PROMISE!" I'm not surprised that CCP prefers to keep their timelines hidden/nebulous for the most part. Me neither.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4959	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:28:00 - [29] - Quote Yes, I apologize for using words that, even though are interchangeable with other words, can be taken out of context. Sometimes words I do choose are rather poor and requires better substitution which is why many of my posts typically do wind up edited over and over again because there are times I realize that word arrangement or selection is off and needs refining.
fenrir storm Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 322	Posted - 2013.06.07 17:34:00 - [30] - Quote They couldn't be bothered to let us know what was happening in beta we had to get info off other players who used the irc. CCP do seem a reluctant to use the very forum they set up for passing on info. Poor game poor communication, looks like the same continues as from beta.



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