Frankly we're all a bit frustrated right now, but only due to the sequence of events that was inevitable when we formed the CPM and that we knew would be unpleasant because it was never destined to be "happy-magic-fix-dust-overnight-land" as much as we'd love to romanticize the idea of a player council.

IWS is a great guy, a hard worker who means well and gives all of you far more attention than is often deserved, given some of the assholes he'll reply to. I've already warned him that responding to obvious trollbait threads like this one are a waste of time because many here simply want to vent anger and take statements out of context in order to incite riots. And lets cut through the bullshit - why are people like this continuing with this tactic month after month after month?

...Because they're still waiting for it to finally work. And it won't. CCP is not your enemy alliance you're at war with, they are a RL business staffed by human beings with feelings and none of you are going to successfully **** talk your way into the negotiating table with the individuals that can actually give you what you're bitching about. It's been tried for years, its failed, and you all know it. Pretend that you care about the game, but at least have the balls to admit you know this isn't going to work and that you're just having fun being an *******.

The more rage, butthurt, smack talk, and facepalming that fills forums - even with the feeble attampts at simply ratcheting up frequency and volume as if brute force emotion is somehow effective as a tactic with dealing with business professionals, the more you're going to find the CPM tuning out this noise as well, even if a few of has have a (well-intentioned) urge to quell emotions that are still going to be there until everything we want fixed is fixed.

Now lets look at some of the hyperbole we've heard in here already - emotionally driven by all parties involved. Of course CCP as not a company know for making FPS's, but the Shanghai team is also chock full of staff from both Dice and Zipper and Praetorian himself described their experience making Battlefield Bad Company at the round table at Fanfest. The idea that there's no one in Shanghai that understands FPS games is frankly ridiculous. Again, feel free to try to torment IWS or to insult CCP's designers because of some statements that could have been phrased more elegantly (but were refreshingly heartfelt) but there's no denying objective fact here when it comes to the personnel involved in Dust's production.

Now do all of us, players and CSM and CCP alike - see the need for MORE staff working on the game? Absolutely. Can lack of time to work on a feature mimic the effect of an incompetent designer? Absolutely. Are any of us happy about the media's review scores? Not in the least, even if we may agree with some of them. Is there any point in pretending that there's no issues here to resolve? Of course not. And will calling CCP a failure when the issue lies there always being more we want done than there is people to do them (which is also improving as CCP hires more and more staff, which they are)

This notion that you all need to preach this to CCP, or to us on the CPM, or that the CPM needs to preach any of it to CCP - is simply absurd at this point. This is exactly why the established the CPM at this time to begin with, to construct and begin practicing with some rather essential communication pipelines that every party knows have to be established in order for us to make progress will help Dust evolve into the game it we know it nees to be

I know CCP's not about to abandon this anytime soon, the CPM sure isn't - as restless as all we are to get involved in a deeper capacity, and whether the rest of you abandon the game or not, at least suck it up and stop pretending you're somehow helping by trying to tar and feather the CPM (which only makes you like an ass to CCP, who know better as to what we've been helping with).

For those that stick around, HTFU and stop QQ-ing about how everything's a disaster and that boomotherfuckinghoo everything is all doomed and ****. Either be part of the solution, and work with us - or own up to the asshattery and continue to spam useless circlejerk threads like this one.

As IWS said - we're in a state of transition right now, there are internal meeting going on to establish the best way to use the CPM and to reach out to the community, and CCP's already owned up to the fact that they're aware of what needs to be done. We are slated to have more meetings with them this week in order to answer many of the questions we have, and we'll have more to report at that time.