DUST Search - Dear players, shut up.

Your Absolut End wrote:

Well, the problem.is.not.ccp listening to us.

The problem is.ccp is looking in the forums and try to judge by the thread-titles.
We have and we still have very good conversations on the forums how to balance stuff. And we also had this back in chromoaome. Major changes in the gameplay and in the weapon balance who were made from chromosome to uprising all came from ccp. I cant remember any discussions where people said give assault suits just 1 equipment slot, about making logi suits super powerful, nerfing all weapons to death except for ar, and oh yeah please ccp, make the tac.the absolute op weapon.

I'm visiting the forums very frequent since open beta, and haven't seen requests on this.
So you can blame whoever you want, but not us.

The beta was useless because it was no beta, i could not feel any tweaking or changes implemented in the open beta at all. And we are talking about 4-5 months. Every mistake ccp did with uprising would have been avoidable if ccp would have actually talked to their customer base and tried stuff in the beta like they are trying now.

this is the truth, and yeah truth sometimes hurt. But if you make a mistake stand to it and get your ass up to learn from this mistakes, instead of blaming anybody else. We all left kindergarten a long time ago. So lets at least try to behave like grown up men and women.


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Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 599	Posted - 2013.06.04 08:21:00 - [1] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Cyn Bruin wrote: No generalizations like "player feedback" please... specifically what are you guys on the CPM going to request CCP do? I don't feel comfortable talking about it on the forums because its a subject I already know that was not that popular to begin with when it was first done and IRC has been helpful enough on deliberating on a path forward to fixing it for next time. The problem is you already think yourself elevated above the average player you are trying to represent. You're not going to talk about your position, or even the issue you are bringing forth under the pretense of representing the Dust community because it would make you look unpopular. I guess this is why appointing people to positions is generally a recipe for disaster (picking people who AFK'ed for months because they got sick of the game was beyond stupid). Keep telling me LAV's are fine and only take 2-3 AV nades to blow up, and the current awoxing mechanics are fine, it just shows how out of touch you are with the game and players you claim you are trying to represent. Saying you are only working on setting up a CPM voting structure, then suggesting you also need to get working relationships going with the developers, and are already clearly pushing your personal agendas under the CPM tag, it's kind of disheartening. Calling out the developers at shanghai for not talking to you is not how you get reluctant developers to talk to you. It's just a rough spot because the role of the CPM seems unclear to CCP, the people in them, and the community. On a positive note long live Kane for CPM1, I get the impression he is the only CPM who plays (or at least understands) dust at a high level (maybe because he has to listen to the Imps complain all the time). I think the rest of you mean well (and can probably do some good), but I just keep reading such silly and ill thought out things from some of you guys that it makes me question your basic judgement. Also for all the **** Jenza has taken she has the humility to say she doesn't know a lot of what is broken with the game, her survey was a step in the right direction in my opinion,
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 599	Posted - 2013.06.04 09:10:00 - [2] - Quote Your Absolut End wrote: Well, the problem.is.not.ccp listening to us. The problem is.ccp is looking in the forums and try to judge by the thread-titles. We have and we still have very good conversations on the forums how to balance stuff. And we also had this back in chromoaome. Major changes in the gameplay and in the weapon balance who were made from chromosome to uprising all came from ccp. I cant remember any discussions where people said give assault suits just 1 equipment slot, about making logi suits super powerful, nerfing all weapons to death except for ar, and oh yeah please ccp, make the tac.the absolute op weapon. I'm visiting the forums very frequent since open beta, and haven't seen requests on this. So you can blame whoever you want, but not us. The beta was useless because it was no beta, i could not feel any tweaking or changes implemented in the open beta at all. And we are talking about 4-5 months. Every mistake ccp did with uprising would have been avoidable if ccp would have actually talked to their customer base and tried stuff in the beta like they are trying now. this is the truth, and yeah truth sometimes hurt. But if you make a mistake stand to it and get your ass up to learn from this mistakes, instead of blaming anybody else. We all left kindergarten a long time ago. So lets at least try to behave like grown up men and women. Being able to vote on the new SP system and changing daily SP caps to weekly SP caps, and remove the hard 50sp cap for the soft cap through voting on a forum thread was one of the most exciting moments, it felt like they were really going to try and let the players have some influence in the development of the game. Sadly I can't recall anything after that that made me feel like player feedback was being implemented. The game balance has actually gone downhill in the last major patch in my opinion. Caldari Logi with a Tac AR is now a dominant build. Before there were at least a few suits, and weapons that could be used. RIP Mass Driver, and Laser. Wish CCP would listen to us on bringing back dead weapons they nerfed into oblivion. I don't even use those weapons but the game is just so much less interesting with everyone using Tac AR's