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BL4CKST4R
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:16:00 -
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Link to were this comes from? |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Before it gets too out of hand let me explain a short bit of what the CPM has been trying to do for the last few weeks.
Right now the CPM is in a very odd situation, we have a new studio that well for most matters and intents do not really know what to do with us. The CPM would like to mimic the CSM whose workload is rather well lets say drowning. However the Studio in Shanghai well new at many of things including making FPS games.
CPM for the last two weeks has been trying to get on the line with CCP and right now CCP is as usual with many things slow to do things but hopefully starting soon the CPM will be able to start proving its worth to CCP as well as your guy's feedback on issues.
There is now a meeting to be scheduled soon asking for feedback of specific parts of the game with the team involved. If successful this may open up other teams to start approaching the CPM and the Community for feedback.
Not all of CCP Shanghai is bad at listening, there are quite a few reluctant to try though.
So now you understand the statement in IRC a bit, I certainly hope that the changes are genuine and changing and I hopefully will not have to repeat this statement in the future.
What is the purpose of the meeting, to get CCP iceland involved, to get CCP shanghai to listen more, to attempt to address more issues already mentioned? |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:34:00 -
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EternalRMG wrote:If they listen to us
they are listening to the wrong people (Cod fanboys, brainless QQrs...)
Just listening to the wrong threads, or listening to the right threads but incorrectly addressing the situation. |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:41:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:
What is the purpose of the meeting, to get CCP iceland involved, to get CCP shanghai to listen more, to attempt to address more issues already mentioned?
In my honest opinion I think its more of a demonstration of what the CPM can do for CCP. I am sure CCP Iceland already had the talk with CCP Shanghai over Dust but CPM don't sit at those sort of meetings.
It really feels wrong that a meeting like this needs to happen in order to get work done... it is disappointing like a parent seeing their child go down the wrong path... |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:52:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I can safely say CCP has already took a step back since launch and changing for the better.
Just the process does take time and well that's why there seems to be a current deep void spot there is now.
I am a bit weirded out that the CCP Shanghai I might see in a few more weeks will be an entirely different monster that I currently know since I started my CPM 0 Term.
Will this monster be good or bad? |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 02:55:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I can safely say CCP has already took a step back since launch and changing for the better.
Just the process does take time and well that's why there seems to be a current deep void spot there is now.
I am a bit weirded out that the CCP Shanghai I might see in a few more weeks will be an entirely different monster that I currently know since I started my CPM 0 Term. Will this monster be good or bad? Only the magic Crystal Ball Knows. Its like you when you were 5 years old. What did you want to be when you grow up can often be entirely different than what happened.
I wanted to be a graphic designer... but now I am one acceptance letter away from being a pharmacist :( |
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Posted - 2013.06.04 03:18:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:just my 2c.. there needs to be a lot more CCP - Player interaction going on.
Take a look at how Trion handled and developed the first year of rift. The devs were constantly explaining the math and logic behind everything they were doing to balance that game, and the player base gave meaningful and constructive feedback as well as tons of angry and criticizing QQ that was written purely out of spite.
However, **** got done and people felt they were being listened to to some extent.
The biggest reason why there is so much negativity on this forum is because there is a complete lack of information from CCP on what is going on for the next, say 4 weeks. All we get is a week update with 5-6 bullet points saying 'we are looking into it'.
Then out of nowhere, we get a drastic balance change drop on us without any sort of warning. A lot of times its a change that is not reflecting the needs and wants of the playerbase, and then a weapon, that someone has spent WEEKS grinding out becomes pretty much useless. The only reason we've all been okay thus far is the constant respecs are allowing us to get out of poorly balanced dropsuits/weapons and not destroying weeks/months worth of SP accumulation.
We are not a bunch of retards who can't do math or help theorize balance issues. Yes, everyone is gonna have their own bias, but if CCP would release balance change information the moment they had it finalized and weeks before deployment, in order to get general feedback. The playerbase would feel SO much better about this game.
Honestly, we still have no hard information on the range fix and tac ar nerf, however these things are scheduled to deploy relatively soon from what I can see.
Why not release the numbers for this? Why would it hurt to have a little balance transparency while you are making your changes?
If the CPM needs to be the vehicle for Dev - Player interaction, that is totally fine. We just need something, because as it stands, the player base feels like they are being completely ignored, while a game they are invested in crumbles around them.
TL;DR - The player base is frustrated with the lack of dev interaction, and pulling out completely will only make things much much worse. and we (the CPM) is just as frustrated at times. I just hope the CCP we start meeting with is the start of something better. I mean after all Eve online was not the only thing that has constantly evolved and got better over the years. CCP has evolved along with it. I am quite sure the same drive will affect the Dust 514 studio as well.
This took ten years, most Dust players don't have ten years to wait.
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Posted - 2013.06.04 03:23:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:BL4CKST4R wrote:
This took ten years, most Dust players don't have ten years to wait.
Yup which is why my comment wound up on IRC, getting a bit frustrated.
Well I wish you the best of luck in your meeting, and I wish that this meeting marks a pivotal point in the development in Dust for a forseeable and prosperous future.
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