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Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:23:00 -
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I've been playing for around 3 weeks and I'm not getting a sense that winning matters. Maybe I'm missing something that you vets can share. Is it all just about character development? |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist
Orion Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:26:00 -
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Victors get two thirds of the ISK payout. That's something. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1583
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:27:00 -
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^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:27:00 -
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No. You need to realise that the EVE universe is a never ending struggle for control and power.
There is no end to the game. You will keep playing and never finish until you've see it for what it really is.
A giant time drainer. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1583
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:29:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:No. You need to realise that the EVE universe is a never ending struggle for control and power.
There is no end to the game. You will keep playing and never finish until you've see it for what it really is.
A giant time drainer.
I don't believe he was asking about winning DUST 514. |
Ansiiis The Trustworthy
Seraphim Auxiliaries
CRONOS.
49
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:29:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win.
And how would YOU know? |
Severance Pay
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:29:00 -
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The most important thing in any MMO is endgame content. Get there and do it. As for public gamemodes, kdr,w/l,warpoints, kills, they all get you nothing. The only thing getting your name of leaderboards does is it will get you hunted like a rare monster.
Skillup and get to endgame. Right now planetary conquest is endgame, next build it will be something else. The way things look planetary conquest, our current endgame, is broken a bit and will likely be fixed in time for the next build. By then new endgame will be introduced and probably be broken. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:30:00 -
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Zerg Tyr wrote:I've been playing for around 3 weeks and I'm not getting a sense that winning matters. Maybe I'm missing something that you vets can share. Is it all just about character development?
character development. Or as I like to call it building your gundam. Yeah sure there are some games that are so close that you really want give your all in, and victory in those games are sweet. But that is few and far between. The gap between noobs and vets is too big.
You could get hired to ring for a corp, but even some corp battles are like glorified pub matches. very few are down to the wire. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1583
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:34:00 -
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Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. And how would YOU know?
Because I've lost and yet still gotten 700k ISK.
Because I've played a battle that was a 4v1 for the entire game, got 600k whilst they got about 100k each.
Because I'm better than you. |
Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:35:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:No. You need to realise that the EVE universe is a never ending struggle for control and power.
There is no end to the game. You will keep playing and never finish until you've see it for what it really is.
A giant time drainer. I don't believe he was asking about winning DUST 514.
That's correct, when I first started playing I was hell bent on winning the match, but it didn't seem to matter. Would you say it's best to just focus on getting war points? |
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Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:38:00 -
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I've spent $130 bucks on this, so I'm just looking to get the most out of it. |
Dust Project 514
Dust Evo 514
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:40:00 -
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Zerg Tyr wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I don't believe he was asking about winning DUST 514. That's correct, when I first started playing I was hell bent on winning the match, but it didn't seem to matter. Would you say it's best to just focus on getting war points?
WPs only get you SP (and isk, but not as useful) and even then you will have to deal with the cap until the weekly redose.
I think the question we should ask you is why are you playing the game, if you don't know what to do with it?
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1584
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:41:00 -
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Zerg Tyr wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Dust Project 514 wrote:No. You need to realise that the EVE universe is a never ending struggle for control and power.
There is no end to the game. You will keep playing and never finish until you've see it for what it really is.
A giant time drainer. I don't believe he was asking about winning DUST 514. That's correct, when I first started playing I was hell bent on winning the match, but it didn't seem to matter. Would you say it's best to just focus on getting war points?
For maximum ISK gain? yes.
Every time something is destroyed, a percentage of the value is added to a pot (I can't remember how much is exactly added), at the end of the match, the WP is used as a percentage, so if you have 10 people on the team, and all of them have 100 war points, you get 10% of the pot each. Your goal in a match really is to gather as much WP as you can and wreck havoc and destroy as much as possible. When you have around 60% of the pot, it's lovely, trust me.
Edit: It also contributes to your SP gain at the end of the match, but you also gain SP based on how long you've been in the battle. Longer the battle, more SP. |
Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:45:00 -
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Dust Project 514 wrote:Zerg Tyr wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I don't believe he was asking about winning DUST 514. That's correct, when I first started playing I was hell bent on winning the match, but it didn't seem to matter. Would you say it's best to just focus on getting war points? WPs only get you SP (and isk, but not as useful) and even then you will have to deal with the cap until the weekly redose. I think the question we should ask you is why are you playing the game, if you don't know what to do with it?
For me I saw what looked like a very ambitious game and wanted to support it. I'm playing because I fell in love with the whole concept. |
Mike Poole
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
101
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:46:00 -
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Zerg Tyr wrote:I've spent $130 bucks on this, so I'm just looking to get the most out of it.
You should look into better ways of spending your money...
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ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
212
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:46:00 -
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No, not really.
Supposedly, in the future, it will though. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
579
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:49:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. And how would YOU know? Because I've lost and yet still gotten 700k ISK. Because I've played a battle that was a 4v1 for the entire game, got 600k whilst they got about 100k each. Because I'm better than you.
winning gives slightly more ISK but it is so small that not really noticeable. well unless its a PC but that's a whole different beast. |
Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:49:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Zerg Tyr wrote:I've spent $130 bucks on this, so I'm just looking to get the most out of it. You should look into better ways of spending your money...
Haha...I'm to impulsive for that! |
Avallo Kantor
DUST University
Ivy League
13
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:50:00 -
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I think he was specifically asking about the difference between ISK / SP payout for a Winner with X WP, vs a Loser with that same X WP.
I may be a bit off, but I think the Winning team gets 2/3 of the pot divided among them, while the losers get 1/3 of the pot divided among them, and your share is based on WP.
So in that sense, assuming your % of WP in your team is the same for each side, you get more for winning, yes. |
Zerg Tyr
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.03 23:52:00 -
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Thank you for the feedback fellas. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
580
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:35:00 -
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Avallo Kantor wrote:I think he was specifically asking about the difference between ISK / SP payout for a Winner with X WP, vs a Loser with that same X WP.
I may be a bit off, but I think the Winning team gets 2/3 of the pot divided among them, while the losers get 1/3 of the pot divided among them, and your share is based on WP.
So in that sense, assuming your % of WP in your team is the same for each side, you get more for winning, yes.
not even close to being true. winning has no effect on the "ISK pot" for destroyed assets that's divided that's based on WP it effect the passive you stood in the MCC ISK which is about 60k ISK difference in a full length skirmish match. |
Utsuru Kaiju
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
63
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:37:00 -
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Winning matters, because W/L is the end-all be-all stat.
I'm kidding, caring about stats in a game as broken as this, where I've countless times to bugs and glitches, is simply absurd. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1821
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:39:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. And how would YOU know? Because I've lost and yet still gotten 700k ISK. Because I've played a battle that was a 4v1 for the entire game, got 600k whilst they got about 100k each. Because I'm better than you.
Not going to say anything |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1594
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:40:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. And how would YOU know? Because I've lost and yet still gotten 700k ISK. Because I've played a battle that was a 4v1 for the entire game, got 600k whilst they got about 100k each. Because I'm better than you. Not going to say anything
Ansiiis is my boy, he knows it's true. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1821
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:41:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:^ Nope.
There's no reason to win. And how would YOU know? Because I've lost and yet still gotten 700k ISK. Because I've played a battle that was a 4v1 for the entire game, got 600k whilst they got about 100k each. Because I'm better than you. Not going to say anything Ansiiis is my boy, he knows it's true.
LAV |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
474
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:47:00 -
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Don't listen to all these blowhards.
The battle is a lot more meaningful, read fun, if you play it like you mean it. This means not worrying about K/D ratios, about not making every dime of ISK possible, and all that crap. Seriously, you'll only make it to higher skill levels or into planetary conquest if you stick around, so find what's fun (and turns a profit).
Of course, if you don't have a squad or anything you'll be disappointed when most of your team is busy AFKing in the MCC or some other nonsense. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1594
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:47:00 -
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Point?
I'm the best damn slayer in this game, I run everyone down, even the cloaked ones. (Once drove over an uplink and hit 5 people, all cloaked, I giggled a little bit.) |
Don Von Hulio
Not Guilty
EoN.
269
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:49:00 -
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A friendly PSA to all the the little dust bunnies. |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1821
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:51:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Point? I'm the best damn slayer in this game, I run everyone down, even the cloaked ones. (Once drove over an uplink and hit 5 people, all cloaked, I giggled a little bit.)
Hm |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
1821
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Posted - 2013.06.04 00:52:00 -
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Step out of the LAV and you will not get hurt |
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WhiteMage7322
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.06.04 01:11:00 -
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Today, I was playing a match and won, but I didn't get any ISK and SP. I got off and I felt like my life was a lie.  |
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