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XiBravo
TeamPlayers
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:04:00 -
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http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/7076/20130601/dust-514-mmo-fell-apart-review.htm
"Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Almost everything within the game is messed up one way or the other, and later on it just becomes a serious test of patience as to how long you can keep playing it."
http://mkgaming.com/playstation3/review-dust-514/
" Had this been developed as a full retail title, this game could have been stellar. As it stands, this DUST needs sweeping." |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:33:00 -
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Basically they don't know how to play. |
xaerael Kabiel
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:37:00 -
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Terrible reviews by terrible reviewers on terrible sites. It's pretty obvious they didn't spend more than a couple of hours playing the game. |
Yeva Kalsani
Reckoners
115
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:52:00 -
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The review on mkgaming is fair enough, but the other one is trash and seems to be a thinly veiled plagiarism of the lackluster IGN reviewGÇöregurgitating all of the key points mentioned in the IGN review and missing out on all the omissions it also made. That makes it questionable if the gamenguide reviewer played the game more than three hours, or even played the game at all. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
187
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:54:00 -
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Quote:Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of.
Hits the nail on the head. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
237
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Posted - 2013.06.03 09:59:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Quote:Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Hits the nail on the head.
I think dusts actually a pretty good game. |
Machariel Hammer
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:05:00 -
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Who are they? I never hear of this guys before lol  |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
187
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:07:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Hits the nail on the head. I think dusts actually a pretty good game.
Whats your favorite part?
The bunny hop evasion tactic that left FPS games a decade ago or bullets that evaporate after 30 meters?
Game is a bad joke. |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:16:00 -
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Funny how only terrible sites or idiot reviewers or people who didn't even bother actually playing the game are the ones reviewing Dust, isn't it? And yet they're all pretty much pointing to the same issues (which have also been brought up here time and time again). Amazing coincidence really! |
DeeJay One
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
37
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:18:00 -
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MKGaming wrote:
ThereGÇÖs a few chat channels open, which are too slow to use for anything other than quick communication.
OK, so are they slow or are they for quick communication? Something just doesn't feel right... |
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hooc order
Deep Space Republic
Gentlemen's Agreement
188
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:18:00 -
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Marc Rime wrote:Funny how only terrible sites or idiot reviewers or people who didn't even bother actually playing the game are the ones reviewing Dust, isn't it? And yet they're all pretty much pointing to the same issues (which have also been brought up here time and time again). Amazing coincidence really!
I play the game...and am probably better at at it then you.
You would not like my review...no EvE fanboy would. |
Knightshade Belladonna
WH0 G1VSA FL0CK GLOCKS
302
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:19:00 -
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hooc order wrote:C Saunders wrote:hooc order wrote:Quote:Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Hits the nail on the head. I think dusts actually a pretty good game. Whats your favorite part? The bunny hop evasion tactic that left FPS games a decade ago or bullets that evaporate after 30 meters? Game is a bad joke.
seriously?? Bunny hopping died a decade ago eh? where the fk you been, dudes be dolphin diving and bunny hopping on every cod I can think of including the few rounds of BO2 I played lastnight with a friend. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
202
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:22:00 -
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Serious question, not meaning to flame or goad into a fight:
Is there a reason why anyone should care what others think about when it comes to a form of entertainment they enjoy? I have seen glowing reviews for movies/games/television shows that I think were terrible, and I have seen the reverse. It is odd that people don't like X when I really do but the amount of posts that either amount to "This site said this!" or "This site is wrong!" is kind of staggering. Why be concerned with what other people think it regards to a game you play for leisure?
Be well. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
37
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:31:00 -
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While those reviews are from no name companies they are not far from the truth. Right now the only appealing reason to play this game is the integration with EVE online and the potential that it brings. Dust has a brutal learning curve, massive grind, and no real incentive to play this game unless you're in a corporation. Unfortunately CCP is catering to the EVE online community and the FPS aspect has faltered because of it.
Look at the FPS community, games like Halo, Battlefield, and CoD sell millions of copies on their release day in the US alone. This game play needs to more competitive rather than solely equipment based. Player skill should matter more than player equipment. A more skilled player should always beat an inferior player regardless of if they have standard gear or prototype gear. If two players of equal skill are in a 1v1 engagement then and only then should the player with better equipment win.
This game needs better and more responsive controls, better hit detection, and faster lateral strafing speeds. CCP needs to make their job easier and remove the PS move and KBM, if they focus on one controller scheme it would be a lot easier to refine and it puts everyone on the same playing field. |
Laurent Cazaderon
What The French
CRONOS.
1501
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:32:00 -
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XiBravo wrote:http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/7076/20130601/dust-514-mmo-fell-apart-review.htm "Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Almost everything within the game is messed up one way or the other, and later on it just becomes a serious test of patience as to how long you can keep playing it." http://mkgaming.com/playstation3/review-dust-514/" Had this been developed as a full retail title, this game could have been stellar. As it stands, this DUST needs sweeping."
A review saying Dust is all wrong, or all good is a bad review. Probably done in less than 4h testing it, or because you're just not objective at all. I've seen some fair ones though that points out perfectly what is wrong and what is good with dust.
Let's face it. There's a lot of progress to be done on dust on the FPS side. Dynamics, rythm, balance, technical polish on aiming, movement etc. Dust is average at the moment FPS wise. But it has so much to offer one can still find it's the most amazing FPS to play. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
523
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:34:00 -
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It's a little of both. I don't think anyone, especially since Uprising, would hold this up as an example of good fps gameplay. However reviewers are routinely missing, or glossing over the facts, that this is free to play, that any p2w aspects are minimal (IGN UK's review nailed it), and most importantly; that it's an mmorpg.
I can't stress this MMO point enough. Nearly all the complaints levelled at Dust are things that every mmo faces. The current comparisons to Battlefield's, or COD's gameplay are false equivalencies. Is anyone expecting the upcoming Elder Scrolls MMO to feature better core gameplay than Skyrim? I don't think so. Yet I doubt that it will be penalised for that upon release. Why the double standard for Dust? Because Dust currently has no standard to be measured against in the first place. This isn't just new ground for devs, but for reviewers too. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:37:00 -
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game sucks , its an overrated PoS , only blind fanboys would say otherwise , its blind fanboys that kill dust514
FACT |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
222
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Posted - 2013.06.03 10:53:00 -
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S0LlD SNAKE wrote:game sucks , its an overrated PoS , only blind fanboys would say otherwise , its blind fanboys that kill dust514
FACT
I was skeptical of your statement at first, but as soon as someone shouts "FACT" everything that's said before or after it magically becomes true. So i have no other choice than to believe you. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
38
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:00:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:S0LlD SNAKE wrote:game sucks , its an overrated PoS , only blind fanboys would say otherwise , its blind fanboys that kill dust514
FACT I was skeptical of your statement at first, but as soon as someone shouts "FACT" everything that's said before or after it magically becomes true. So i have no other choice than to believe you.
Read my earlier post, the fifth post before this one. |
Gilbatron
Free-Space-Ranger
Nulli Secunda
93
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:04:00 -
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Solo Dust is a bad game
Team Dust is a pretty cool game that is lacking depth, needs some balancing and has some annoying bugs
Team Dust can be fixed, Solo Dust needs some serious work (to make it better or to bring players over to Team Dust) |
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:04:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:It's a little of both. I don't think anyone, especially since Uprising, would hold this up as an example of good fps gameplay. However reviewers are routinely missing, or glossing over the facts, that this is free to play, that any p2w aspects are minimal (IGN UK's review nailed it), and most importantly; that it's an mmorpg.
I can't stress this MMO point enough. Nearly all the complaints levelled at Dust are things that every mmo faces. The current comparisons to Battlefield's, or COD's gameplay are false equivalencies. Is anyone expecting the upcoming Elder Scrolls MMO to feature better core gameplay than Skyrim? I don't think so. Yet I doubt that it will be penalised for that upon release. Why the double standard for Dust? Because Dust currently has no standard to be measured against in the first place. This isn't just new ground for devs, but for reviewers too.
Its a shooter with a skill system, there have been many others before it so dont hold it up as this special unique thing when its not |
charlesnette dalari
Creative Killers
DARKSTAR ARMY
230
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:37:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:Serious question, not meaning to flame or goad into a fight:
Is there a reason why anyone should care what others think about when it comes to a form of entertainment they enjoy? I have seen glowing reviews for movies/games/television shows that I think were terrible, and I have seen the reverse. It is odd that people don't like X when I really do but the amount of posts that either amount to "This site said this!" or "This site is wrong!" is kind of staggering. Why be concerned with what other people think it regards to a game you play for leisure?
Be well.
the reason for the debate is if a majority of reviewers give dust a bad review it will seriously limit the number of people that will actually try the game to see if THEY like it. with a limited playerbase dust could eventually fail and then those that like the game wont have a game to play.
so these threads are to be expected as what others think could dramatically impact the game |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
102
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:42:00 -
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[quote=XiBravo]http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/7076/20130601/dust-514-mmo-fell-apart-review.htm
"Dust 514,...being not something any developing company would be proud of. Almost everything within the game is messed up one way or the other, and later on it just becomes a serious test of patience as to how long you can keep playing it."
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sounds like a kid wrote it. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
372
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Posted - 2013.06.03 11:43:00 -
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I will agree that reviews are Bad... except for the fact, that almost every single reviewer is saying the same things, with different scores criteria. Sorry fanboys ... is getting harder and harder to defend Dust 514. |
Marc Rime
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:05:00 -
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hooc order wrote:I play the game...and am probably better at at it then you.
I'm sure you are. I absolutely suck atm, can't seem to get used everything they broke/changed in Uprising.
hooc order wrote:You would not like my review...no EvE fanboy would.
Is it possible that the sarcastic tone my post somehow eluded you? |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
63
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:07:00 -
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All I can say is if the optimists stay (surely the fanboys will) then Dust will have a chance to be something special in the future.
CCP need more talent in the fold though, plugging away at all the major issues, surely they dont think they alone can solely bring this game around and most will wait 5-7 years for it to be awesome. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
EoN.
41
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:15:00 -
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Meh, as long as I enjoy, don't really care what other sites or people say or do.
Case in point, all the people going on about how much something sucks yet still persisting to keep at it means there's something to it, otherwise they wouldn't bother with all the bashing and just go do something better with their time.
I like pizza you like cabbage, well I'll eat my pizza no matter what you say and you can carry on sucking on your cabbage |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
190
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:21:00 -
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will play until I don't want to play anymore, don't really care about reviews but dust really needs to improve. |
Rekon Syport
ZionTCD
Unclaimed.
14
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:24:00 -
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I've always looked and I think CCP as well, as Dust being the core of integrating 2 platforms in real time interaction. THAT"S IT, ALL IT IS.
It's a concept and attempt at a single piece of new ideas first, game second. Nobody should really care about the game, as it wasn't CCP's main focus in the first place other than that very concept. We will prove this idea works for FUTURE GAMES to consider even if we are all running around in polygon VGA 2d graphics.
When the OB's rain upon request and EVE is actually well affected by DUST happenings PC or hwat have you, this idea will be considered a success regardless of DUSTs state itself. Then BAM, a new games takes the working idea, polishes a new game pairing, and we all move on to those games thanking CCP for pioneering an idea with a terrible package job we will all reminisce about.
The GAME is second thought. Not the focus IMO. If you only care about DUST, it seems you are not understanding of CCP's main objectives in the overall picture as they probably care less than you do. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
524
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:25:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:It's a little of both. I don't think anyone, especially since Uprising, would hold this up as an example of good fps gameplay. However reviewers are routinely missing, or glossing over the facts, that this is free to play, that any p2w aspects are minimal (IGN UK's review nailed it), and most importantly; that it's an mmorpg.
I can't stress this MMO point enough. Nearly all the complaints levelled at Dust are things that every mmo faces. The current comparisons to Battlefield's, or COD's gameplay are false equivalencies. Is anyone expecting the upcoming Elder Scrolls MMO to feature better core gameplay than Skyrim? I don't think so. Yet I doubt that it will be penalised for that upon release. Why the double standard for Dust? Because Dust currently has no standard to be measured against in the first place. This isn't just new ground for devs, but for reviewers too. Its a shooter with a skill system, there have been many others before it so dont hold it up as this special unique thing when its not
This isn't comparable to Borderlands. Beyond that, I don't think your post warrants a reply. |
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:27:00 -
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DUST is a pretty good beta MMOFPS.
It's just a shame CCP have slapped a release date on it and let it pass without realising they weren't ready. |
Nova Fortis
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:27:00 -
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I agree with the second review, but not the first.
It's certainly not a chore to play and I enjoy it, but it is quite buggy. Once shooting is refined a bit, nanite injectors are fixed, etc., I think it will be one of the most fun games I'll play. It has tons of potential. |
Acturus Galaxy
Horizons' Edge
Orion Empire
51
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:28:00 -
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What is going with some of you, you surely hate this game with a passion and it sounds like some of you are on a crusade trying to kill Dust digging up all the negative information you can find. And calling all who like Dust for fanboys.
I like Dust and the community, not the community on the forum but the friends I have made in the corporation I am a member of. I refuse to be called a fanboy just because I like Dust. It might not be a game that I would pay 100$ retail for (games are expensive in my part of the world) but I love it for being a free to play game. I would not go out and buy CoD or any other FPS game either.
You might not understand why I like Dust but I surely do not understand why you keep coming back to Dust and post on the forums when you hate Dust. Please post constructive posts if you just happen to dislike its current state but stays as you like the idea and how it is evolving and suggest ideas for improvement. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
74
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Posted - 2013.06.03 12:59:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:It's a little of both. I don't think anyone, especially since Uprising, would hold this up as an example of good fps gameplay. However reviewers are routinely missing, or glossing over the facts, that this is free to play, that any p2w aspects are minimal (IGN UK's review nailed it), and most importantly; that it's an mmorpg.
I can't stress this MMO point enough. Nearly all the complaints levelled at Dust are things that every mmo faces. The current comparisons to Battlefield's, or COD's gameplay are false equivalencies. Is anyone expecting the upcoming Elder Scrolls MMO to feature better core gameplay than Skyrim? I don't think so. Yet I doubt that it will be penalised for that upon release. Why the double standard for Dust? Because Dust currently has no standard to be measured against in the first place. This isn't just new ground for devs, but for reviewers too. Its a shooter with a skill system, there have been many others before it so dont hold it up as this special unique thing when its not This isn't comparable to Borderlands. Beyond that, I don't think your post warrants a reply.
As the "MMO" is currently implemented, battlefield is just as, if not more MMO than dust in relations to gameplay. The on going universe is seriously missing. In essence it is exactly in battlefields league and is justly compared to it. And boy does it fail to compare in its current state. At it's core dust is a FPS. If it did that and ONLY that well(think CS) these reviews would be on the other side of the scale as the reviewers would be able to look past the much less important things, but sadly this is not the case |
Flaminius-Aurelius Julius
DUST University
Ivy League
40
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Posted - 2013.06.05 00:16:00 -
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What i think Really has to be realized here is the concept of what Dust is and can be. Dust has the CCP devs; They are the most active devs in a gaming community I have ever seen and commonly talk and speak with their playerbase. Games like COD, Battlefield, or really any other game has no such track record of having players vote for their representatives to speak with the devs personally. That is just the player-developer interaction of it.
The other critical feature is that this is a game that will be updated constantly and vigorously for the next eternity or until CCP goes bankrupt (and i would still be suspicious of it being updated). This game will constantly have bugs fixed, features added, Gameplay perfected, and Community wants/needs satiated.
Dust will grow. It wont boom and bust like every game in history, it's business model is incredibly constant and persevering as growing and breaking out a healthy community and profit so the game can keep up with it's own evolution.
What most don't realize is that this game isn't finished, quite honestly it will never finish, but it will always build onto itself and grow into a more integrated, powerful, and spectacular game. |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:05:00 -
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they are right this game has a looooooonnngg way to go, but frankly how else was CCP to get the support it needed from sony with the PSN. Now that the game has been released sony has to start giving PSN support or lose the game/look like ass hats when the exclusivity contract runs out.
For CCP it was stay in beta until it alienated its core supporters due to continued glacial progress, or release an unfinished product that would garner bad press in an attempt force sonys hand, or at worst to start the timer on the exclusivity contract to so that they can salvage dust on some other platform. |
Helper Friendly
Planetary Response Organization
18
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:08:00 -
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It doesn't matter if the reviews are bad. They have subscribers who will read them and take their word as law thus never even trying the game.
We all know dust is a work in progress.
Console gamers ( me included at first) will have a terribly hard time understanding this concept. People who review games usually get special access with bumped up characters making their initial impressions nearly false or developers allow them to play "special" levels while they sit right next to them explaining every detail.
I don't know of CCP doing this so a reviewer starts from scratch plays through the academy then immediately gets proto stomped in a vast, hard to grasp at first game= bad review no matter who wrote it. Sad sad |
hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2013.06.05 01:13:00 -
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@ helper friendly, that is a good point if you look at how long it took for reviews of dust to come out, thats exactly how it went. CCP was trying to hold off the inevitable onslaught of reviews saying this game was not done, and so reviewers started from scratch and what you said was exactly what happened.
Not that it would have mattered CCP could of rolled out the red carpet and they still would have got handed their ass. They know they are screwed either way so they are playing the long game instead of turning them selves into another duke nukum. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
109
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Posted - 2013.06.08 09:33:00 -
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http://youtu.be/BSlf16do5GU
Gamespot gave a 6.0 |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.07.06 09:32:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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