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nukel head
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Posted - 2013.06.04 22:22:00 -
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Osbor robsO wrote:all passive SP would fix this grinding problem instantly
also if your suit is THAT expensive, and you lose money on average using it, consider making the suit cheaper? the weapon and dropsuit are by far the most expensive parts of a fit. consider dropping down to an ADV weapon instead of proto?
I agree. I don't understand all the complaining because it is not profitable to run proto gear exclusively. I think that was kind of the point of making it so expensive. All the statements like "I'm going to stop playing if I can't use my proto suit and gun all the time" seems...childish at best. I have proto gear and only use it for PC matches. I will mix in a proto suit in a match here and there just to try things out and get a feel for it, but I don't see it as something I should be able to use exclusively - ESPECIALLY NOT IN PUB MATCHES. There is no need for it there, at least not at this point.
I make my money with my STD and some ADV gear. The high level stuff is for the serious matches. I actually get irritated when I see proto squads pub stomping. That's why I teach the new guys to focus on the darkest suit in the crowd and save orbitals for tight groups of them. The balance to trying to overpower with higher level tech is to be economically bled out. Then the game comes back to skill and tactics instead of the winner being the group with the most ISK. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.05 16:17:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:The one thing I got from those who want Payouts increased for using Proto was that "I'm using Proto to pub stomp new players, so I need to get paid more so I can scare more New Clientele away"
Here's my Pay scale for Gear tiers,
Militia- New Player Usage, Slightly more Wimpy Standard gear
Standard- Use for when Insta-Battling, Really Unimportant PC/FW/ Contract
Advanced- Use for FW/Contracts, Standard Level of importance PC
Prototype- Use for Only Key PC battles
As many People have said, Proto is NOT for Instant Battle. It is for battles you cant afford to lose.
Adjusting Payout for Vehicale Usage could be done, as their Standard un-fitted loadouts cost more then a Fully fitted Proto Dropsuit Jesus Christ, nobody wants more for using proto. We want more for performance over time in battle.
Your post is ENTIRELY BASED ON USING PROTO GEAR. If you were using anything else you would have made money. |
nukel head
Knights of No Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.06 15:38:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Rachoi wrote:Vile Heathen wrote:It sounds like you're saying you want your cake (40-1 KDR etc), and eat it too (positive payout upon loss of HAV).
If payout is only/mostly based on war points, this would mean all the poor noobs in militia suits would get little or no share of the money. I know this game is all about capitalism and corporations and stuff, but you gotta remember that you've (I'm assuming) been here since beta. New players joining now under this new rule you're proposing would make it unappealing to newcomers.
And for fraksakes... Why would you regularly bring expensive HAVs to pub matches?! hah, true on all points. what the vets that run proto/HAV all the bloody time would completely ruin the game for aonyone new coming in, because of the sheer amount of grinding the newbies would need to do just to make enough to use anything that would climb the ladder. there should be a bit more pay to the board toppers of WP [for god's sake i saw a logi go 1/3 and have near 3k warpoints] and get away from the importnance of that CoD shitset of KDR, because lets face it, KRD doesn't mean jack diddly for most things, its all about the Warpoints Actually i am pretty new to the game. Only been playing a month. But once you know what gets you war points and you have a mic and learn to take direction you can earn some pretty good isk. Rewarding players that suck with high isk because they are new is a very poor idea. if you dont know what your doing deal with the fact your payouts will suck until you get a clue. The starter fits are free so you cant even loose money using them.
I don't think that most would disagree with LOWERING the payout for poor or no performance. This is actually NEEDED for AFK players. However, I do disagree with what this thread is all about - payouts that make using proto gear for everything profitable. That becomes a huge reward for pubstomping and giant penalty for the newbs that are getting stomped. That is a very bad idea. |
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