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Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:41:00 -
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I run pub matches in a 30k Adv medium frame suit, do perfectly fine in it, have fun, kill protos, and always make a profit.
If pubstomping in a proto suit isn't working out for you, maybe you should change what you're doing? |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 19:59:00 -
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Several people have already explained why the system works that way, there's no reason to explain it again. Maybe you should read the thread. I suggested an alternative that works perfectly fine for pub matches, and you get pissy about it.
Payouts are divided among your entire team, so even if you killed an entire proto squad, as long as you lost several proto suits you are going to take a loss. If you can run proto suits in pub matches all day without a care in the world for monetary losses, than ISK ultimately means nothing and the whole risk vs. reward system falls apart. And just to clarify, winning a pointless pub match isn't part of the reward side of the equation, because it accomplishes exactly nothing. |
Cass Barr
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 20:23:00 -
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No, it really doesn't bother me. I think the majority of players running proto gear in pubs would make the new player experience even worse than it is, and it's already pretty bad.
If they expanded the Academy as quite a few of us have suggested, then you could probably increase payouts in normal battles. Indeed they'd go up automatically as generally more expensive gear would be in play. But again, if they go too far with NPC payouts you'd risk ISK losing all value for everyone except vehicle users.
Ultimately the whole balance will change when the Dust and Eve markets are integrated, and pod jockeys start subsidizing FW battles to turn the battles in their preferred direction, as well as increased Eve integration and expansion of PC territory. Honestly I'd prefer they be working on all of this instead. |
Cass Barr
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Posted - 2013.06.01 23:13:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:ShwerShwerShwer wrote:The thing is, proto gear was never intended to be ran 24/7 This isn't just about proto gear. That's just the worst example. If I wanted to equip my logi in all advanced gear that's something like 45k per fit. Anything more than 4 deaths, or sometimes 3 deaths with really horrible payouts, and I'm either in the red or barely scraping by.
Sorry, but if you can't turn a profit in the large majority of matches while running 45k suits you're doing something wrong. It's not the system. I don't know if you're running solo and keep facing real squads or what, but it's something.
Sure you'll die more than 5 times sometimes, but keeping it under that isn't terribly difficult if you don't act like it's CoD. |
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