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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 3185	Posted - 2013.06.01 13:22:00 - [31] - Quote The current Assault - Anti-Armor [Starter Fit] loadout. An Assault suit. Fine. This is a good option. A Swarm Launcher. Also fine, although it would be interesting if they balanced the Plasma Launcher better and gave that to Minmatar and Gallente players instead. Possibly not ideal, however, since it's a more skill-based weapon rather than a suitable "beginner" AV weapon. Scrambler Pistol. See my comment about a skill-based weapon being inappropriate? Yeah... this was a bad choice of sidearm, and I don't know any legit AV-focused players who would seriously prefer the Pistol over having a rapid-fire option with a large magazine. Locus grenades. If you gave new players the SMG instead of a Pistol, we wouldn't be relying on anti-personnel grenades to try and survive.
Rynoceros One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 90	Posted - 2013.06.01 13:30:00 - [32] - Quote AV grenades should be on Starter AV fits. Free LAVs have found a way to ruin the game. Free LAVs should be incapable of causing damage. Free LAVs should not have a turret, as they should be for transport only. Turret Ops skill should be required to board anybody's turret.
Cosgar's Alt Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 198	Posted - 2013.06.01 13:33:00 - [33] - Quote m621 zma wrote: Cosgar's Alt wrote: AV grenades aren't something you're meant to solo vehicles with. That's why it takes more than one proto to take out a MLT LAV. What!? Cosgar's Alt wrote: AV grenades aren't something you're meant to solo vehicles with. That's why it takes more than one militia to take out a ProtoLAV. fixed that for you I'm sorry, you lost me. What kind of half assed point were you trying to make?
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1846	Posted - 2013.06.01 15:20:00 - [34] - Quote Darken-Sol wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: Introduce militia AV grenades. On starter fits if possible. The issue is an LAV can be used with any fit, but a swarm or forge requires dedicating everything towards only one enemy. Until you hit grenade 1, there is not a lot you can do to be both combat effective and have defenses against free lavs. The ease and lack of risk in roadkilling is the root issue, but this would be a nice simple bandaid that could literally be implemented overnight. people should skill into grenade 1, its like 36k SP. you can get that in a day even if you are capped. Not everyone is a veteran. Many don't even know how useful doing that would be for LAV defense.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 222	Posted - 2013.06.01 15:23:00 - [35] - Quote Rynoceros wrote: AV grenades should be on Starter AV fits. Free LAVs have found a way to ruin the game. Free LAVs should be incapable of causing damage. Free LAVs should not have a turret, as they should be for transport only. Turret Ops skill should be required to board anybody's turret. Lol at all your suggestions oh yea a 4 ton car sholdent be able to run you over lol about av nade starter fits. Skill into av or quit complaining.
jdwalk-04 New Eden's Most Wanted Gentlemen's Agreement 0	Posted - 2013.06.01 17:38:00 - [36] - Quote I'm just annoyed at the amount of people that get into LAVs, and roll around running people over, showing no skill whatsoever. Specifically the LLAVs, those vehicles are a pain in the ass, no pun intended.
Sgt Buttscratch G I A N T EoN. 105	Posted - 2013.06.01 18:19:00 - [37] - Quote Free LAV's --- Not the issue. A better fix would be to make the lav take the damage of the person they hit. (shield and HP, so hitting a full proto heavy, will grape the LAV) Also put a max of 3 free lav's per user, per match. with a 2 minute cooldown period after loosing one. Another idea: reducing the points gained from 50 to 25 would be good, and only counting the impacts as asists, due to the car doing the killing not the player.
EKH0 0ne R.I.f.t 53	Posted - 2013.06.01 18:29:00 - [38] - Quote Sorry to say this noobs, but you suck balls if you think lavs are op.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 81	Posted - 2013.06.01 18:32:00 - [39] - Quote LAV players are as useless as snipers , they dont capture objectives. If you have a lot of them on your team you dont win the match .
EKH0 0ne R.I.f.t 53	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:01:00 - [40] - Quote S0LlD SNAKE wrote: LAV players are as useless as snipers , they dont capture objectives. If you have a lot of them on your team you dont win the match . Yeah except when were passing all u walkers by on the way to the first objective.......its the people who DONT use lavs who are useless

S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 82	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:02:00 - [41] - Quote EKH0 0ne wrote: S0LlD SNAKE wrote: LAV players are as useless as snipers , they dont capture objectives. If you have a lot of them on your team you dont win the match . Yeah except when were passing all u walkers by on the way to the first objective.......its the people who DONT use lavs who are useless im sorry but i eat dropships and tanks for breakfast , LAV's are just snakcs
mollerz Minja Scouts 352	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:08:00 - [42] - Quote A good LAV pilot can disrupt a good cohesive squad and seriously ruin their mojo. Where an organized proto squad is taking on an objective and wiping out the blueberries, a good LAV pilot can stop the whole assault in it's tracks. Run over their logi first... they will have to run for their lives tossing AV nades and breaking formation. Meanwhile, the blueberries can regroup and start shooting down the protos who are busy with a monster LAV ripping around. My fit- Blood Raider Saga 2x [REDACTED] 3x [REDACTED] It's boss.com
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 82	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:09:00 - [43] - Quote mollerz wrote: A good LAV pilot can disrupt a good cohesive squad and seriously ruin their mojo. Where an organized proto squad is taking on an objective and wiping out the blueberries, a good LAV pilot can stop the whole assault in it's tracks. Run over their logi first... they will have to run for their lives tossing AV nades and breaking formation. Meanwhile, the blueberries can regroup and start shooting down the protos who are busy with a monster LAV ripping around. My fit- Blood Raider Saga 2x [REDACTED] 3x [REDACTED] It's boss.com cool story bro
Madagascan Eagle 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.06.01 19:30:00 - [44] - Quote Have LAVs show up on your radar more efficiently. That way at least you can dodge them easier.
mollerz Minja Scouts 354	Posted - 2013.06.01 21:44:00 - [45] - Quote S0LlD SNAKE wrote: cool story bro Every time someone says that, I think to myself, "Mollerz, now there is someone who has no creative spark. They repeat something somebody else a lot cooler than them originally said over and over like it impresses others to the extent it obviously did them." Then with a chuckle I round bin any further thought on the matter. Thanks for taking the time to post, however. Good day to you, sir.
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 183	Posted - 2013.06.01 22:04:00 - [46] - Quote Quote: Quick fix for the LAV issue Do nothing. no nerf no buff to other items...do nothng and let the LAV do what it is doing. God mode players being carried by their 10 million SP need to be run over when they run around in the open and otherwise playing horribly.
Yeva Kalsani Reckoners 114	Posted - 2013.06.01 22:08:00 - [47] - Quote AV grenades need a nerf if you see how they get used against HAVs and you get a free Swarm launcher fit anyway. That's more effective at taking down the free LAVs than any AV grenades. So giving people free fits with AV grenades would only exacerbate the problem with AV grenades versus HAVs. Also, SL and FG both have militia grade versions. No skilling needed to use them. They're both better against LAVs.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1799	Posted - 2013.06.01 22:10:00 - [48] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Introduce militia AV grenades. On starter fits if possible. The issue is an LAV can be used with any fit, but a swarm or forge requires dedicating everything towards only one enemy. Until you hit grenade 1, there is not a lot you can do to be both combat effective and have defenses against free lavs. The ease and lack of risk in roadkilling is the root issue, but this would be a nice simple bandaid that could literally be implemented overnight. I would still say make the LAV take damage equal to or at least half that of the suit they run over. That way you can get at most 2 roadkills before you weaken yourself to the point that it's easier to kill you.
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1509	Posted - 2013.06.01 22:14:00 - [49] - Quote Here's a novel idea, how about players that are irritated by the LAVs ...oh i dunno... skill into some AV gear? I mean, the game is unarguably sort of awful, but if you're going to play it, at least play it.
S0LlD SNAKE PLAYSTATION4 89	Posted - 2013.06.01 22:22:00 - [50] - Quote mollerz wrote: S0LlD SNAKE wrote: cool story bro Every time someone says that, I think to myself, "Mollerz, now there is someone who has no creative spark. They repeat something somebody else a lot cooler than them originally said over and over like it impresses others to the extent it obviously did them." Then with a chuckle I round bin any further thought on the matter. Thanks for taking the time to post, however. Good day to you, sir. cool story bro

mollerz Minja Scouts 357	Posted - 2013.06.02 00:36:00 - [51] - Quote S0LlD SNAKE wrote: mollerz wrote: S0LlD SNAKE wrote: cool story bro Every time someone says that, I think to myself, "Mollerz, now there is someone who has no creative spark. They repeat something somebody else a lot cooler than them originally said over and over like it impresses others to the extent it obviously did them." Then with a chuckle I round bin any further thought on the matter. Thanks for taking the time to post, however. Good day to you, sir. cool story bro lol. u irritated homey? got any stories :)? Or do you sit in the corner with your solid snakeling rolling your eyes all day?
Fargen Icehole SyNergy Gaming EoN. 110	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:19:00 - [52] - Quote My quick fix for LAVs would be easy. No more than 1000HP for a default militia LAV. This means they can be one-shot by all AV. Want more survivability? Add decent mods and/or get a better LAV.
hgghyujh Expert Intervention Caldari State 19	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:26:00 - [53] - Quote they exsist they are called swarm really man it takes like 5 matches worth of sp to get av nades stop bitching and spec av or deal with it god ******* damn whiners
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 139	Posted - 2013.06.02 01:55:00 - [54] - Quote IamI3rian wrote: Someone in my corp suggested the LAV should take damage equal to the HP (or a fraction thereof) of the dropsuit hit. Those Caldari's would mess up an Onikuma Impact, and I know heavies with more HP than some of those freebies. Imagine getting hit by an LAV, and the thing just explodes... with the heavy walking out of the wreckage. = ) 1000 times no


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