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Talim Prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 04:44:00 -
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I suggest making the bust rifle a five shot burst instead of three, that will make it easier to use and a better mach for other assault rifle..... Kinda like killzone 3. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 04:54:00 -
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Talim Prime wrote:I suggest making the bust rifle a five shot burst instead of three, that will make it easier to use and a better mach for other assault rifle..... Kinda like killzone 3.
It used to fire a 6-7 shot burst, and all that made it do was burn through ammo faster. |
XiBravo
TeamPlayers
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:09:00 -
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I think it need some bonus over the full auto version...otherwise why use it... |
Talin Prime
Teknomen
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:10:00 -
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60 rounds in the magazine is 12 burst for the burst rifle, that's more than enough to me. |
Talim Prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 05:18:00 -
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If you played KZ3 it's not so fast. |
RHYTHMIK Designs
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:12:00 -
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The more bullets per burst, the less control you have. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:17:00 -
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RHYTHMIK Designs wrote:The more bullets per burst, the less control you have.
Precisely. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:23:00 -
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Burst Rifle is going to be the Minmatar combat rifle soonGäó
CCP Remnant wrote:Etero Narciss wrote:CCP Remnant wrote:We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range
Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range
Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range
Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons
A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time. I have a question about the bolded part: So when the remaining two do release, will the two relevant Assault variants be removed? They won't be removed, no, but they will be tweaked slightly. The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on.
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RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2013.06.01 08:22:00 -
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I don't believe it has any discernible advantage over the TAR or standard AR so it wallows in the market. It definitely needs to be made more competitive. The BR in Halo was quite good and sounded beastly in comparison. |
Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.01 10:48:00 -
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RedRebelCork wrote:I don't believe it has any discernible advantage over the TAR or standard AR so it wallows in the market. It definitely needs to be made more competitive. The BR in Halo was quite good and sounded beastly in comparison.
There's actually nothing wrong with the burst. I used the GK and Allotek for the first half of chrome and ate CoDboi's lunches before the could even get in range to pray and spray. Well, at least before everyone found out LWSSP was so OP. Anyway, it's the TAR that needs to be brought down. Whatever changes they make to it are going to determine the validity of the entire AR line. Since my MD is crap, I'll probably be speccing back into ARs and decide between the GK or the GLU for my everyday use. |
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Jathniel
G I A N T
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:03:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:Burst Rifle is going to be the Minmatar combat rifle soonGäó CCP Remnant wrote:Etero Narciss wrote:CCP Remnant wrote:We'll be making some adjustments to the rifle ranges in the near future. We're currently testing the Rail Rifle and Combat Rifle internally (the two missing archetypes). Within the assault rifle class the four weapon types will break down as follows:
Assault Rifle (Hybrid - Plasma) - short range
Combat Rifle (Projectile - Autocannon) - short-mid range
Scrambler Rifle (Laser - Pulse) - mid range
Rail Rifle (Hybrid - Railgun) - long range
Keep in mind though that long range for an assault rifle is not equivalent to long range for a sniper rifle, so while they will adhere to existing category definitions don't expect massive differences in the distances between these weapons
A lot of the original assault rifle variants (Breach, Burst, Tactical) were created to fill the gaps these newer weapons will fill and so mightGÇÖve felt out of place (not to mention we just plain made mistakes with some of them). The scrambler rifleGÇÖs optimal range will be increased and weGÇÖll be releasing an iteration of the Tactical Assault Rifle with a smaller clip and much wider hip-fire spread making it less effective in CQC. If that change alone does not prove enough we will walk the damage of the TAR down slowly. No big, sweeping changes this time. I have a question about the bolded part: So when the remaining two do release, will the two relevant Assault variants be removed? They won't be removed, no, but they will be tweaked slightly. The idea being that each race will have it's base variant be Assault, (Gallente) Burst (Minmatar), Breach (Caldari) or Tactical (Amarr) and then the variants are a specific race's take on the others using their own tech. So, you'd get an Assault Rail Rifle that attempts to somewhat mimic the behavior of the Gallente Assault Rifle and a Tactical Assault Rifle that attempts to mimic the Amarr Scrambler Rifle and so on.
Where the hell did you find this wonderful excerpt?
I'm always looking for genuine sacred words of Devs, but alas like my Almighty Creator's, they are near impossible to find.
@OP:
The Burst AR is just fine. I would bump up damage by 5 HP for all ARs except the tac actually.
But overall, Burst ARs are fine. You have to use them in the mid-range element. The precision gives you hands down dominance, but if you get too close to a full auto AR, you're gonna get fried. As it should be. :) |
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