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11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:12:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise.
I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends.
They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
701
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:12:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:I never get any recruitment mails and I always faceroll 13ear..
I'm in a tank, but that's not the point.
Its because you dont have a Duvolle TAC or an in-game name with a number in it. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:14:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it.
Sounds like my kind of dudes. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:18:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. Sounds like my kind of dudes.
You say that now, wait until you are being rolled by them and sending them hate mail, posting Anti-NF/Anti-Imp/Anti-IE threads, or calling their members names because they chest pound about how they turned you inside out.....it happens to the best of us....lol.
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Phantomnom
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
566
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:24:00 -
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Why not let them beat their chest when they win. I thought we were in New Eden now? That's what matters here right? |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:27:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Why not let them beat their chest when they win. I thought we were in New Eden now? That's what matters here right?
I personally don't see anything wrong with, I'm just saying that the community as a whole seems to be against it, given the amount of hate threads and posts that seem to always be directed towards you guys....lol |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:28:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. Sounds like my kind of dudes. You say that now, wait until you are being rolled by them and sending them hate mail, posting Anti-NF/Anti-Imp/Anti-IE threads, or calling their members names because they chest pound about how they turned you inside out.....it happens to the best of us....lol.
Im not a hatemail sending guy and I would expect them to beat me down since they are afterall....5% better skillwise. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1506
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:32:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I never get any recruitment mails and I always faceroll 13ear..
I'm in a tank, but that's not the point. Its because you dont have a Duvolle TAC or an in-game name with a number in it.
CCP pls rename me to J450N P34R50N and let me make my large turret a tac duvolle, I'll be on the Imperfects A Team for sure! |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:34:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. Sounds like my kind of dudes. You say that now, wait until you are being rolled by them and sending them hate mail, posting Anti-NF/Anti-Imp/Anti-IE threads, or calling their members names because they chest pound about how they turned you inside out.....it happens to the best of us....lol. Im not a hatemail sending guy and I would expect them to beat me down since they are afterall....5% better skillwise.
I never said they were 5% better skill wise, I said Shalac17 only had 5% of the skill needed to compete in Dust and that he is justifying his comments by saying that only 5% of the game is about skills. He lacks that 5%, but blames his lack of SP and proto gear (which he implies is 95% of the ability to win a match) on not being an able and skilled player.
NF has a lot of skill, but players confuse skill and ability with tactical and situational awareness. They are not the same thing and I propose that it's not NF's skills that allow them to win so much, it's their tactical and situational awareness as well as their team play that wins them matches. |
NightEagle11
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
33
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:35:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I never get any recruitment mails and I always faceroll 13ear..
I'm in a tank, but that's not the point. Its because you dont have a Duvolle TAC or an in-game name with a number in it. CCP pls rename me to J450N P34R50N and let me make my large turret a tac duvolle, I'll be on the Imperfects A Team for sure!
If i didnt know any better id say you sound mad |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
1506
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:36:00 -
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NightEagle11 wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:I never get any recruitment mails and I always faceroll 13ear..
I'm in a tank, but that's not the point. Its because you dont have a Duvolle TAC or an in-game name with a number in it. CCP pls rename me to J450N P34R50N and let me make my large turret a tac duvolle, I'll be on the Imperfects A Team for sure! If i didnt know any better id say you sound mad
I'm a shield tanker, of course I'm ******* mad, have you seen what armor tanks do to me? #JustCantCompete |
Phantomnom
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
566
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:37:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Why not let them beat their chest when they win. I thought we were in New Eden now? That's what matters here right? I personally don't see anything wrong with, I'm just saying that the community as a whole seems to be against it, given the amount of hate threads and posts that seem to always be directed towards you guys....lol
Let them hate. The cut-throat and merciless lifestyle was all people boasted about during Beta, bragging about how it will be too ruthless for most, and when they get a alliance that lives to those traditions they don't want to play ball any more. |
SENATOR KODOS
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:45:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:
I never said they were 5% better skill wise, I said Shalac17 only had 5% of the skill needed to compete in Dust and that he is justifying his comments by saying that only 5% of the game is about skills. He lacks that 5%, but blames his lack of SP and proto gear (which he implies is 95% of the ability to win a match) on not being an able and skilled player.
NF has a lot of skill, but players confuse skill and ability with tactical and situational awareness. They are not the same thing and I propose that it's not NF's skills that allow them to win so much, it's their tactical and situational awareness as well as their team play that wins them matches.
I know man I was just loling at the 5% thing from butthurt mcgee. |
Deadeye Dic
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
90
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:50:00 -
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So much hate in this thread. Can't we all just get along? As a member of NF and an Imp, I'm devastated by the communities lack of awareness of our true cause. But I'll help you all out, cause, well I can darn it and I only want contribute to the community's knowledge and understanding.
We at NF are about ensuring that only the purest of Mercs inhabit the planets of New Eden. Our mission is a just and righteous mission one that requires personal sacrifices. I mean who wants Mercs (or so they call themselves) who are unable to defend and control sections of planets, while at the same time promoting healthy and positive growth of the Dust community? We don't TAKE planets to control. We force the undeserving to leave the planets so that we can better serve the community by passing along these districts to more deserving and sometimes smaller Corporations, so that everyone can have a slice of the pie.
I direct your attention to this post as evidence of our true desires to help those less fortunate than ourselves:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=888532#post888532
Enjoy and remember, Negative-Feedback always has your best interests in mind, when the others only have their self-interest in mind. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
204
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Posted - 2013.06.01 03:53:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote: Soon as people catch up to them in SP and are able to fit the gear that they currently do, they will fall as well. Its funny that people believe that. Skill is 5% of what matters in this game. The rest is SP and gear. If you work together as a squad and one team is militia and the other is proto, the proto wins. More damage and tank on the battlefield. Skills do not factor into a number based game. So what you are saying is that you and your best squad vs them and their best squad using identical militia gear would be a victory on your side? That is exactly what I am saying. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1795
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Posted - 2013.06.01 04:27:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote: Soon as people catch up to them in SP and are able to fit the gear that they currently do, they will fall as well. Its funny that people believe that. Skill is 5% of what matters in this game. The rest is SP and gear. If you work together as a squad and one team is militia and the other is proto, the proto wins. More damage and tank on the battlefield. Skills do not factor into a number based game. So what you are saying is that you and your best squad vs them and their best squad using identical militia gear would be a victory on your side? That is exactly what I am saying.
Your in an NPC corp your opinion doesn't really matter. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2013.06.01 13:54:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:
Your in an NPC corp your opinion doesn't really matter.
Actually, I'm not. |
Cyn Bruin
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1029
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:05:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:
Your in an NPC corp your opinion doesn't really matter.
Actually, I'm not.
Then you're a coward thats afraid to post on his main, does really change anything militia boy?
Think not.
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Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:17:00 -
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Cyn Bruin wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:
Your in an NPC corp your opinion doesn't really matter.
Actually, I'm not. Then you're a coward thats afraid to post on his main, does really change anything militia boy? Think not. Um.. this character has 6 million SP, which is the highest amount of SP any of my characters have. And what if I posted a comment under a Negative Feedback tag? I think would actually be taken less seriously if I did that. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
152
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:23:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:You do know that hashtags don't work on these forums right. They work for me now go be an NPC corp player somewhere else dude. No they don't and you will fall soon enough as your SP advantage is falling away. AWOX and proto will not save you in the coming months. SP advantage? WTF does that have to do with anything? STB sits at the top of the leaderboards, clearly they have the SP to back up their mouths. The issue is that they don't have the tactical know how to make it count. They got lucky in the land rush, but over time, EVERYONE who is ANYONE has been slowly chipping away at them and now they blame loses on their B and C teams and lag. I'm sure that no respectable Corp would throw B and C teams at a Corp an alliance like NF. Perhaps it's time for STB to just pack up their bags and catch the next freighter heading into WH space. How did STB come into the mix? I don't care about STB and the only reason anyone is on top of leader boards is because time played. Not skill, get that straight right now. The stats CCP currently counts hardly matter and the one that does, W/L, has noone in top slots. Negative-Feedback is just like every other beta core. Soon as people catch up to them in SP and are able to fit the gear that they currently do, they will fall as well. I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post. |
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James-5955
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
187
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:24:00 -
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Just thought I'd point out that NF has been winning consistently against other teams that have high SP as well. So I don't see the SP excuse as a valid one anymore.
I recently joined them after having played against many of them in previous games, mainly MAG and I can tell you It's not just SP but I guess you'll have to learn that the hard way. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
208
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:33:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote: I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post.
Maybe you are the one that is special ed. I said that their SP and gear advantage is going to end. When SP and gear are equal, then this game is 100% about who is the better player. STB are even more so scrubs than NF are so they don't matter. I saw imps and IE get face raped multiple times today from Naiyan San players. Because Naiyan San has the same gear and their players are actually good. Even the all hallowed 13ear fell twice from the shots that I was plastering him from.
IMPs are garbage. They think they are good because they proto pub stomp, but as soon as they run into people with the same SP and gear as them with the ability to play they fold like a wet noodle. |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
154
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:42:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote: I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post.
Maybe you are the one that is special ed. I said that their SP and gear advantage is going to end. When SP and gear are equal, then this game is 100% about who is the better player. STB are even more so scrubs than NF are so they don't matter. I saw imps and IE get face raped multiple times today from Naiyan San players. Because Naiyan San has the same gear and their players are actually good. Even the all hallowed 13ear fell twice from the shots that I was plastering him from. IMPs are garbage. They think they are good because they proto pub stomp, but as soon as they run into people with the same SP and gear as them with the ability to play they fold like a wet noodle. Oh I see - you're a troll. My bad - I thought you were a serious poster.
Enjoy riding the imp hate bandwagon |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:52:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Oh I see - you're a troll. My bad - I thought you were a serious poster. Enjoy riding the imp hate bandwagon Who said I hate them? They might have some really cool guys in their core. I just don't think they are the players that they try to make themselves out to be. And if stating facts is trolling then yes. |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1799
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:52:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote: I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post.
Maybe you are the one that is special ed. I said that their SP and gear advantage is going to end. When SP and gear are equal, then this game is 100% about who is the better player. STB are even more so scrubs than NF are so they don't matter. I saw imps and IE get face raped multiple times today from Naiyan San players. Because Naiyan San has the same gear and their players are actually good. Even the all hallowed 13ear fell twice from the shots that I was plastering him from. IMPs are garbage. They think they are good because they proto pub stomp, but as soon as they run into people with the same SP and gear as them with the ability to play they fold like a wet noodle.
get a bunch of your NPC buddies together and form a corp. Proceed to spend 80 million on a clone pack, and prove that NF players only think they are good, because they can pub stomp in proto gear. Until then keep your mouth shut because your opinion doesn't matter considering you don't own any land in DUST. |
Schalac 17
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2013.06.01 17:53:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote: I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post.
Maybe you are the one that is special ed. I said that their SP and gear advantage is going to end. When SP and gear are equal, then this game is 100% about who is the better player. STB are even more so scrubs than NF are so they don't matter. I saw imps and IE get face raped multiple times today from Naiyan San players. Because Naiyan San has the same gear and their players are actually good. Even the all hallowed 13ear fell twice from the shots that I was plastering him from. IMPs are garbage. They think they are good because they proto pub stomp, but as soon as they run into people with the same SP and gear as them with the ability to play they fold like a wet noodle. get a bunch of your NPC buddies together and form a corp. Proceed to spend 80 million on a clone pack, and prove that NF players only think they are good, because they can pub stomp in proto gear. Until then keep your mouth shut because your opinion doesn't matter considering you don't own any land in DUST. No, I own the space your land is in. Much more valuable than your lol clone packs. |
Big miku
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
231
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Posted - 2013.06.01 18:12:00 -
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Predicting that the Negative-Feedback alliance will in fact fall, into a drunken stupor after our inevitable Victory over the Universe party.
I look forward to snorting lines of coke off the hulls of Llavs and drunken lav races |
Mitachui
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.06.01 21:16:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Why not let them beat their chest when they win. I thought we were in New Eden now? That's what matters here right? I personally don't see anything wrong with, I'm just saying that the community as a whole seems to be against it, given the amount of hate threads and posts that seem to always be directed towards you guys....lol Let them hate. The cut-throat and merciless lifestyle was all people boasted about during Beta, bragging about how it will be too ruthless for most, and when they get a alliance that lives to those traditions they don't want to play ball any more.
Preach |
xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1800
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:13:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote: I can't tell if you're special Ed or really just this dumb. You just claimed NF had an SP advantage and it would soon run dry with time - so someone brings up STB who has the same 'advantage' (lol) and still got face rolled. If you cannot think outside of your box and look at the replies made for your consideration then don't post.
Maybe you are the one that is special ed. I said that their SP and gear advantage is going to end. When SP and gear are equal, then this game is 100% about who is the better player. STB are even more so scrubs than NF are so they don't matter. I saw imps and IE get face raped multiple times today from Naiyan San players. Because Naiyan San has the same gear and their players are actually good. Even the all hallowed 13ear fell twice from the shots that I was plastering him from. IMPs are garbage. They think they are good because they proto pub stomp, but as soon as they run into people with the same SP and gear as them with the ability to play they fold like a wet noodle. get a bunch of your NPC buddies together and form a corp. Proceed to spend 80 million on a clone pack, and prove that NF players only think they are good, because they can pub stomp in proto gear. Until then keep your mouth shut because your opinion doesn't matter considering you don't own any land in DUST. No, I own the space your land is in. Much more valuable than your lol clone packs.
Cool story brother. I could careless whether you own the space above, because you're not good enough to come to the ground and take my land from me. |
lllIIIlI IIIlIl
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
53
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:26:00 -
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u wot m8? |
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