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11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:24:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:You do know that hashtags don't work on these forums right. They work for me now go be an NPC corp player somewhere else dude. No they don't and you will fall soon enough as your SP advantage is falling away. AWOX and proto will not save you in the coming months.
SP advantage? WTF does that have to do with anything? STB sits at the top of the leaderboards, clearly they have the SP to back up their mouths. The issue is that they don't have the tactical know how to make it count. They got lucky in the land rush, but over time, EVERYONE who is ANYONE has been slowly chipping away at them and now they blame loses on their B and C teams and lag. I'm sure that no respectable Corp would throw B and C teams at a Corp an alliance like NF.
Perhaps it's time for STB to just pack up their bags and catch the next freighter heading into WH space. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 00:48:00 -
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Schalac 17 wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:You do know that hashtags don't work on these forums right. They work for me now go be an NPC corp player somewhere else dude. No they don't and you will fall soon enough as your SP advantage is falling away. AWOX and proto will not save you in the coming months. SP advantage? WTF does that have to do with anything? STB sits at the top of the leaderboards, clearly they have the SP to back up their mouths. The issue is that they don't have the tactical know how to make it count. They got lucky in the land rush, but over time, EVERYONE who is ANYONE has been slowly chipping away at them and now they blame loses on their B and C teams and lag. I'm sure that no respectable Corp would throw B and C teams at a Corp an alliance like NF. Perhaps it's time for STB to just pack up their bags and catch the next freighter heading into WH space. How did STB come into the mix? I don't care about STB and the only reason anyone is on top of leader boards is because time played. Not skill, get that straight right now. The stats CCP currently counts hardly matter and the one that does, W/L, has noone in top slots. Negative-Feedback is just like every other beta core. Soon as people catch up to them in SP and are able to fit the gear that they currently do, they will fall as well.
You mean the same people that will accept an invitation to get the IMP tag? Many people have at least as much SP has members of NF. It's not the name or abilities of NF that make them good, it's their willingness and ability to force others to fight their way. I have seen it time and again in matches, as soon as someone sees that an NF member or squad is in a match the other teams all horde towards them in hopes of getting a e-boner by killing one of them. This is why people loose to NF, they decide to become glory hounds and want to be able to say, "I killed (fill in name here), they weren't so tough."
Just seems to me that you are tag envious and probably got rejected by them, so now like so many others you want to ride the coattails of all the haters out there who can't stand to admit that they were just outclassed by a better coordinated group of player. Maybe you guys should get together and create a "I got rejected/defeated by NF" support group, where you can hold hands, sing Kumbaya, and shed tears of embarrassment over your collective failures. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:02:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:Schalac 17 wrote: Soon as people catch up to them in SP and are able to fit the gear that they currently do, they will fall as well. Its funny that people believe that.  Skill is 5% of what matters in this game. The rest is SP and gear. If you work together as a squad and one team is militia and the other is proto, the proto wins. More damage and tank on the battlefield. Skills do not factor into a number based game. So what you are saying is that you and your best squad vs them and their best squad using identical militia gear would be a victory on your side?
No, he's saying that he only has 5% of the skill needed to play this game and is blaming is losses on the fact that he lacks the SP required to be effective in Dust, which is just another way of saying he fails and is unable to compete in a competitive environment such as Dust. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:12:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. 
I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends.
They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:18:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. Sounds like my kind of dudes. 
You say that now, wait until you are being rolled by them and sending them hate mail, posting Anti-NF/Anti-Imp/Anti-IE threads, or calling their members names because they chest pound about how they turned you inside out.....it happens to the best of us....lol.
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11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:27:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Why not let them beat their chest when they win. I thought we were in New Eden now? That's what matters here right?
I personally don't see anything wrong with, I'm just saying that the community as a whole seems to be against it, given the amount of hate threads and posts that seem to always be directed towards you guys....lol |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.01 01:34:00 -
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SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:11Up3Down wrote:SENATOR KODOS wrote:That gives a new player like me hope to know that the best team in the game is only 5% better than me sklillwise. I've been around long enough to see what NF can do. Yeah they have skills, but when you see them on the field, you'll see it's not their gear or SP that wins them matches. They move together like a well choreographed dance troupe. Every movement looks like it has intent and purpose. They don't seem to have any doubt as to what their next objective is. They hit the ground running and they simply don't stop until the end of the match. Even if the match is a lose, where most players just give up, they keep pushing and pushing until the match ends. They aren't the only corp or alliance that are like that, but they tend to be the most notable because a few of their members chest pound whenever they win matches and many in the community don't care for it. Sounds like my kind of dudes. You say that now, wait until you are being rolled by them and sending them hate mail, posting Anti-NF/Anti-Imp/Anti-IE threads, or calling their members names because they chest pound about how they turned you inside out.....it happens to the best of us....lol. Im not a hatemail sending guy and I would expect them to beat me down since they are afterall....5% better skillwise.
I never said they were 5% better skill wise, I said Shalac17 only had 5% of the skill needed to compete in Dust and that he is justifying his comments by saying that only 5% of the game is about skills. He lacks that 5%, but blames his lack of SP and proto gear (which he implies is 95% of the ability to win a match) on not being an able and skilled player.
NF has a lot of skill, but players confuse skill and ability with tactical and situational awareness. They are not the same thing and I propose that it's not NF's skills that allow them to win so much, it's their tactical and situational awareness as well as their team play that wins them matches. |
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