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VLIGHT5
The Judas Coalition
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:26:00 -
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This is just a question, and I'm not saying I'd do it, but:
Since the last date to file a respec is the 31st, could you potentially file AGAIN if you already received yours? |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
36
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:26:00 -
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FeaR Ace
Ahrendee Frontlinez
84
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:26:00 -
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Dumbass why the **** would you post about it now people that want another one can't |
Fiasco Llana
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
321
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:26:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:This is just a question, and I'm not saying I'd do it, but:
Since the last date to file a respec is the 31st, could you potentially file AGAIN if you already received yours?
Was wondering this as well. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
207
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Posted - 2013.05.29 20:29:00 -
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Fiasco Llana wrote:VLIGHT5 wrote:This is just a question, and I'm not saying I'd do it, but:
Since the last date to file a respec is the 31st, could you potentially file AGAIN if you already received yours? Was wondering this as well.
The real meta game of dust: getting nerfs and respecs. |
Somin Krais
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
38
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:13:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters to read. I greatly enjoy your commentary. |
Vethosis
Universal Allies Inc.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:19:00 -
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no it said one time offer. |
Julius Vindice
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
80
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:22:00 -
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VLIGHT5 wrote:This is just a question, and I'm not saying I'd do it, but:
Since the last date to file a respec is the 31st, could you potentially file AGAIN if you already received yours?
as well. |
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GM Vegas
Game Masters C C P Alliance
506
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:32:00 -
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Vethosis wrote:no it said one time offer.
Exactly that. If you already got one, you cannot get another one I am afraid. |
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UK-Shots
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
116
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:39:00 -
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i actually tried just to see.
i was sent an email saying thanks we hope you enjoyed your respec. |
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Rolf The Viking
Ill Omens EoN.
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:52:00 -
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UK-Shots wrote:i actually tried just to see.
i was sent an email saying thanks we hope you enjoyed your respec.
CCP <3 |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
148
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:58:00 -
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There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
385
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:06:00 -
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hooc order wrote:There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. You might get partial repecs later on (all light weapon skills refunded for example) but barring another total rework of the skill tree or some god awful bug, no more total repecs ever. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
148
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:17:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:hooc order wrote:There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. You might get partial repecs later on (all light weapon skills refunded for example) but barring another total rework of the skill tree or some god awful bug - no more total repecs ever.
Yeah and then you will get on your winged unicorn and fly off to the moon.
Repercussions if CCP does not hold to its promise: none
Repercussions if CCP withholds features of the game: Loss of potential player base and revenue.
Ever looked at turn over of game developers? Ever look at turn over of game developers after a game has been released? In a year hardly anyone will even be at CCP who even remembers the promise....a promise that only a subset of subset of subset of a non-growth portion of the Dust community even cares about.
Console fps mmo is a brave new world. Quit thinking that CCP can remain the same cloistered farmville in space fairy sanctuary forever. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
31
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:17:00 -
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GM Vegas wrote:Vethosis wrote:no it said one time offer. Exactly that. If you already got one, you cannot get another one I am afraid.
Can I get another one? I'd like to respec into C logi and tact AR. Its the only way to keep up. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
552
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:21:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:hooc order wrote:There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. You might get partial repecs later on (all light weapon skills refunded for example) but barring another total rework of the skill tree or some god awful bug - no more total repecs ever. Yeah and then you will get on your winged unicorn and fly off to the moon. Repercussions if CCP does not hold to its promise: none Repercussions if CCP withholds features of the game: Loss of potential player base and revenue. Ever looked at turn over of game developers? Ever look at turn over of game developers after a game has been released? In a year hardly anyone will even be at CCP who even remembers the promise....a promise that only a subset of subset of subset of a non-growth portion of the Dust community even cares about. Console fps mmo is a brave new world. Quit thinking that CCP can remain the same cloistered farmville in space fairy sanctuary forever.
For the record, you might also consider quitting thinking that the console fps crowd is going to bend CCP to your will. You aren't that special snowflake.
I will say that I wouldn't be shocked if future respecs come along, but I also wouldn't be shocked to see entirely new skill trees added with no respec whatsoever. Don't count on any future respecs. Choose wisely. |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
148
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:27:00 -
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Quote:Don't count on any future respecs. Choose wisely.
phht.
Just set up a few PSN accounts and let your alts sit in cryo while you play on your main.
You can already get around the "no respec ever" promise with ease....which is another, major, reason why it will go the way of the dodo bird. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
1028
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:41:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:hooc order wrote:There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. You might get partial repecs later on (all light weapon skills refunded for example) but barring another total rework of the skill tree or some god awful bug - no more total repecs ever. Yeah and then you will get on your winged unicorn and fly off to the moon. Repercussions if CCP does not hold to its promise: none Repercussions if CCP withholds features of the game: Loss of potential player base and revenue. Ever looked at turn over of game developers? Ever look at turn over of game developers after a game has been released? In a year hardly anyone will even be at CCP who even remembers the promise....a promise that only a subset of subset of subset of a non-growth portion of the Dust community even cares about. Console fps mmo is a brave new world. Quit thinking that CCP can remain the same cloistered farmville in space fairy sanctuary forever. You have this backwards, if CCP starts denigrating the meaning of a persistent world where choices matter by wiping (or semi-wiping) those choices repeatedly then they shorten the potency, meaning and lifespan of the game. Loss of game lifespan > loss of theoretical population growth.
EVE Online has been in a growth cycle (on balance) while other MMOs have largely been shrinking. Does it pull the total numbers of WoW? Nope. But it has a stable, lasting, and growing member base. Make it as spoon fed as the rest of the MMOs out there which "protect" players from any real meaning to their choices by always having an "undo" option on deck and you lose that population and stability. D514 exists within New Eden as well and as the link deepens the meaning of choices becomes all the more important.
Skill development within Dust is about specialization and then diversity. Provide consistent respec and you've just stripped the second half of that out of the game. You no longer need to earn your diversity just stop playing for awhile and wait for the next respec game diversity and longevity will both suffer and player populations will ultimately fall not rise. Will protecting players from the consequences of their choices bring in more players? Most likely it will. But will those players stick around for a year, or two, or three? Or will they be off to the next flavor of the month game when they've exhausted the current content or been confronted by a more flat meta game due to consistent player respecs. Not to mention the way this will ruin the secondary market once that's live.
CCP offering them now due to the game being new and the skill tree being overhauled, sure. CCP making it a matter of course that they happen every so often? Well let's just say I think they understand the sandbox better than to do that.
0.02 ISK Cross |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
386
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:46:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:hooc order wrote:There will be plenty more down the line.
Just looking at all the holes in their faction variants implies that once filled people will want to try those things out. What CCP is going to make them wait 4 or 5 months to get the SP to fill out a second or third spec on their tree?
I think not.
We will probably be able to respec at will within a year. You might get partial repecs later on (all light weapon skills refunded for example) but barring another total rework of the skill tree or some god awful bug - no more total repecs ever. Yeah and then you will get on your winged unicorn and fly off to the moon. Repercussions if CCP does not hold to its promise: none Repercussions if CCP withholds features of the game: Loss of potential player base and revenue. Ever looked at turn over of game developers? Ever look at turn over of game developers after a game has been released? In a year hardly anyone will even be at CCP who even remembers the promise....a promise that only a subset of subset of subset of a non-growth portion of the Dust community even cares about. Console fps mmo is a brave new world. Quit thinking that CCP can remain the same cloistered farmville in space fairy sanctuary forever. This is a decade old promise, people remember it. It is also literally part of CCPs mission statement as a company (create a game where all your actions have consequences and meaning - or something like that).
Also, why do you think I allowed for partial repecs? When CCP adds a bunch of new suits and weapons in the next release, they could very give players the chance to respes their weapon and suit skills. |
Onesimus Tarsus
GamersForChrist
223
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:47:00 -
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Somin Krais wrote:Onesimus Tarsus is quickly becoming one of my favorite posters to read. I greatly enjoy your commentary.
Aw thanks! I just wish my witty banter generated war points. |
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
168
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:54:00 -
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Quote:Skill development within Dust is about specialization and then diversity
Tac AR |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
150
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:06:00 -
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Quote:if CCP starts denigrating the meaning of a persistent world where choices matter
Filling out a predetermined RPG skill tree is not choices that matter.
Nerfing and buffing abilities in that tree after people have speced into them is not persistence.
CCP has already broken its promises in the last month let alone the "NEXT TEN YEARS".
You lose farmville in space fairy. |
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