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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:46:00 -
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chromosome was the better build. too late now.
you guys wanted spacecod and that's what they gave you.
game was ok before.
just sad now.
Peace B |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Imortal volunteers
627
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:47:00 -
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what anoyyes me the most about dust is how i just cant STOP playing it. like really i will full on rage quite sometimes and like an hour later i will be back to point i will say on voice comes WHY AM STILL PLAYING >.< |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
47
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:49:00 -
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Mike Poole wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, another this game is terrible thread. What a surprise
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and walks like a duck... We're talking about Dust not Ducks. It I wanted a duck I'd go out and shoot one
And on the subject of "bittervets". As this is a relatively new game, they're irrelevant. I can't think of a single (good) MMO/Online game that didn't go through a massive overhaul after it was released. In fact, most online games have more balancing patches in their first year than they do for every following year after that. It's something that newbies don't get and vets always forget. Take something like Diablo 2 for instance, it was complete rubbish until Blizzard overhauled it repeatedly. |
CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
85
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Posted - 2013.05.29 21:55:00 -
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hooc order wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:so level the playing field! I used to get worked by proto suits before I got a proto suit. yes there are a lot more problems but if being outmatched is your problem then get even. i know matchmaking would help a lot though....
If you have proto gear now you never had to face the shear cliff of having 2 million SP and going up against someone with 10 million SP. Everyone leveled up with you...with only a few people slightly ahead of you.
not in my case. I have under 5m SP but the respec helped. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4748
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:34:00 -
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Shortly after Chomosome:
Forums> "WTF CCP you nerfed the TAC wtf? man!"
Shortly after Uprising
Forums> "WTF CCP you boosted the TAC wtf? man!" |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4748
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:35:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, another this game is terrible thread. What a surprise
Oh look, another apologist trying to diminish an op's facts by calling them redundant. OP is what we like to call a 'Bittervet' - therefore everything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt. (Not that everything said is incorrect, or even exaggerated) Basically he and those like him joined the closed beta pretty early on and fell in love with the game as it was back then, horrible flaws and all - however now the game has changed so much that they get all upset because everything's changed and they miss the way old game was. The old game had unique features. Right now it's borderline generic with a touch of P2W.
Name me a unique feature that suddenly disappeared. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1729
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Posted - 2013.05.29 22:36:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, another this game is terrible thread. What a surprise
Oh look, another apologist trying to diminish an op's facts by calling them redundant. OP is what we like to call a 'Bittervet' - therefore everything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt. (Not that everything said is incorrect, or even exaggerated) Basically he and those like him joined the closed beta pretty early on and fell in love with the game as it was back then, horrible flaws and all - however now the game has changed so much that they get all upset because everything's changed and they miss the way old game was. The old game had unique features. Right now it's borderline generic with a touch of P2W. Name me a unique feature that suddenly disappeared.
Skirmish 1.0 -> E3 Skirmish -> ****** territories. |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:34:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:Oh look, another this game is terrible thread. What a surprise
Oh look, another apologist trying to diminish an op's facts by calling them redundant. OP is what we like to call a 'Bittervet' - therefore everything he says should be taken with a pinch of salt. (Not that everything said is incorrect, or even exaggerated) Basically he and those like him joined the closed beta pretty early on and fell in love with the game as it was back then, horrible flaws and all - however now the game has changed so much that they get all upset because everything's changed and they miss the way old game was. The old game had unique features. Right now it's borderline generic with a touch of P2W. Name me a unique feature that suddenly disappeared.
weapon diversity. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4749
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:44:00 -
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Jenza's Pants wrote:
weapon diversity.
Usage or Weapons in general? |
Setaceous Prime
Nexus Prima
47
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Posted - 2013.05.29 23:51:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Shortly after Chomosome:
Forums> "WTF CCP you nerfed the TAC wtf? man!"
Shortly after Uprising
Forums> "WTF CCP you boosted the TAC wtf? man!" It's the way of things. Some people won't be happy until we're all generic red and blue stick figures flailing away at each other with noodle arms in a generic grey box shaped room (OMG Blue is underpowered, nerf Red). Others won't be happy until they can one shot everyone else while taking no damage (OMG, y u nerf my tactical nuke, now i can only kill 10 players in one shot).
Most of us are more moderate (I hope), and see a need for the re-balancing that CCP does. This sort of game always gets better over time, it's never perfect when it launches (I honestly can't think of a single game , in any genre, that was). |
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
297
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:01:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:what anoyyes me the most about dust is how i just cant STOP playing it. like really i will full on rage quite sometimes and like an hour later i will be back to point i will say on voice comes WHY AM STILL PLAYING >.< This is me, but I go weeks with nothing but fun. Then I get on and can't kill anything and it feels like my suit is made of cardboard. I can have a day where I go 15/2 regularly then all of sudden cant hardly break even.
It's weird. I feel like there is a nerf button for characters that they hit then listen to you rage on comms and laugh their asses off. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
129
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:12:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:we now have an army of LAVs to run me over
Instant kill nades
Prototype gear that you have no chance agents unless your the top 10% of players who skill can carry them though.
6 man rofolstomp teams
corp drama so bad its not ever worth being part of (this appears to apply to every-unit)
TAC rifles that kill you before you even no whats going on.
a match maker that does not work.
PC that does not work and only favors 10% of ENTIRE player-base
apparently you give out free isk to everyone and then only tell some players that you going to take it back so the QQ their should admittedly be funny.
oh and all new players once the leave their bubble WILL get stomped regardless what the fan players or those in KNOW not all of us are gods gift to gaming and will lose horrifically.
In EvE their is something i can do to get away from all this if needed. Dust boils down to the below.
GET STOMPED or Fall behind and get stomped even more.
at what point is the fun im literary only playing so i can try and get something to help even the odds but im likely walking when destny comes out and you would be stupid not to think the rest of "loyal" fan base is thinking the same. you got lucky with defiance (and even then player drop was noticeable) i don't think you will catch a break twice.
right angy rant over im just getting sick of wasting hours in this game and not even having anything to show for it other than more lossed isk that apparently means f all anyway now
For the love of god, shut the hell up! This post has no feedback that could be taken as constructive, and should have been deleted as soon as it was put up. I'm sure 90% of the player base on here, myself included, are sick to death of seeing whiney little girls like you whinge about your self entitlement AT *EVERY* OPPORTUNITY. Shut. Up.
Wasting hours playing the game? If that's your viewpoint, no matter what CCP do you'll be wasting your time. You should be playing for enjoyment regardless of bugs, and if the game is no longer enjoyable, stop playing. It seems pretty straight forward to me.... why spend your (leisure?) time doing something that you don't enjoy? How stupid are you exactly? |
Nonya Bizznizz
DUST University Ivy League
16
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:20:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:we now have an army of LAVs to run me over
Instant kill nades
Prototype gear that you have no chance agents unless your the top 10% of players who skill can carry them though.
6 man rofolstomp teams
corp drama so bad its not ever worth being part of (this appears to apply to every-unit)
TAC rifles that kill you before you even no whats going on.
a match maker that does not work.
PC that does not work and only favors 10% of ENTIRE player-base
apparently you give out free isk to everyone and then only tell some players that you going to take it back so the QQ their should admittedly be funny.
oh and all new players once the leave their bubble WILL get stomped regardless what the fan players or those in KNOW not all of us are gods gift to gaming and will lose horrifically.
In EvE their is something i can do to get away from all this if needed. Dust boils down to the below.
GET STOMPED or Fall behind and get stomped even more.
at what point is the fun im literary only playing so i can try and get something to help even the odds but im likely walking when destny comes out and you would be stupid not to think the rest of "loyal" fan base is thinking the same. you got lucky with defiance (and even then player drop was noticeable) i don't think you will catch a break twice.
right angy rant over im just getting sick of wasting hours in this game and not even having anything to show for it other than more lossed isk that apparently means f all anyway now
Simple solution. Don't like it, don't play it. You just wasted your own time writing this thread as CCP must make you wait 10 years before anything is actually changed or fixed. I'm just hoping for maybe a hot fix or something to cure the cancer this game acquired way back in Chromosome. |
steadyhand amarr
Amarr Imortal volunteers
632
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:40:00 -
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you people clearly didnt read the. rage rant bit of this thread. also the feedback is quite clear, the game is very frustrating at the moment please acknowledge the skill gap and weapons usage could do with another do over.
did like the self entitled gamer rant though but i think you oversold it in how angry me expressing that im a frustrated at game right now which leads me to believe its a troll.
also note to self sarcasm never comes across correctly on net if i think its a clear joke.
i do enjoy playing dust when everything comes to gether and works and you get two "even teams" clashing thier is no other game like it.
i would just like to have more than one of those games every two weeks ;) |
Orin the Freak
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
663
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:46:00 -
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apparently, being on the CPM turns you into a CCP fanboy with no desire to change the game. Complete content with how things are going.
Crush all those who oppose with the might of the devs, and bask in the glory of your CCP batphone. Or some such thing.
CPM should be way more critical. A weak CPM means nothing changes. which means stagnation, which in turn means people leave the game after a few months due to more interesting venues. Certainly there will always be a small clique group who plays nothing but DUST. Enjoy your 5 corps who rule all districts.
I am disappointed Iron Wolf. I had a great respect for you before this thread. but to act like there is no credibility to the OP's post is asinine. This game got incredibly worse when Uprising came out. I tried to defend it for a while, but after a month of promises and apologies, I am done defending CCP. They need to s*** or get off the pot. The game isn't in beta anymore, yet it still lacks fundamental gear/skills, like evening out the racial weapons/dropsuits. and with no clear plan or release window for these features, it just seems like CCP is really dragging their feet, or under-staffed.
I'd rather have had them wait a year, fix their game, give us single-player content (PvE) then launch it as a $60 hard copy.
I mean, it's really easy to see that this game is just a mess. It's almost like it has no direction for now. In time, maybe a few years, we might start to see a semblance of what this game is supposed to be. but for now, it's a broken, imbalanced mess, where there is one suit/weapon combo that rules 90% of the battlefield, All the maps are the same terrain, matchmaking is nearly non-existent, and we are all just "waiting for it to get better".
Meanwhile we could all just be playing real games, and letting CCP do what they've always done, Internally test things and release patches based on that info, ignoring all other input that doesn't mesh with their findings. |
Selinate deux
DUST University Ivy League
84
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Posted - 2013.05.30 00:56:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote: Prototype gear that you have no chance agents unless your the top 10% of players who skill can carry them though.
Considering that I can pretty much empty half a clip on a prototype assault suit standing still and it won't die, while they just brush me with their duvolle tac AR and I die, 10% is being ridiculously generous.
I'd say something more like the proto user would have to be drunk off his ass and the other player in lower tier gear would have to be in the top 1%.
I don't get the idea behind this. In Eve, they initiated something called "Tiericide". Why on earth would they go back to having tiers of equipment if their objective in Eve is to get rid of it more or less? |
Militia Bling
FrontLine-Coalition
0
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:12:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:apparently, being on the CPM turns you into a CCP fanboy with no desire to change the game. Complete content with how things are going.
Crush all those who oppose with the might of the devs, and bask in the glory of your CCP batphone. Or some such thing.
CPM should be way more critical. A weak CPM means nothing changes. which means stagnation, which in turn means people leave the game after a few months due to more interesting venues. Certainly there will always be a small clique group who plays nothing but DUST. Enjoy your 5 corps who rule all districts.
I am disappointed Iron Wolf. I had a great respect for you before this thread. but to act like there is no credibility to the OP's post is asinine. This game got incredibly worse when Uprising came out. I tried to defend it for a while, but after a month of promises and apologies, I am done defending CCP. They need to s*** or get off the pot. The game isn't in beta anymore, yet it still lacks fundamental gear/skills, like evening out the racial weapons/dropsuits. and with no clear plan or release window for these features, it just seems like CCP is really dragging their feet, or under-staffed.
I'd rather have had them wait a year, fix their game, give us single-player content (PvE) then launch it as a $60 hard copy.
I mean, it's really easy to see that this game is just a mess. It's almost like it has no direction for now. In time, maybe a few years, we might start to see a semblance of what this game is supposed to be. but for now, it's a broken, imbalanced mess, where there is one suit/weapon combo that rules 90% of the battlefield, All the maps are the same terrain, matchmaking is nearly non-existent, and we are all just "waiting for it to get better".
Meanwhile we could all just be playing real games, and letting CCP do what they've always done, Internally test things and release patches based on that info, ignoring all other input that doesn't mesh with their findings.
Braj, you just took the words right outta my fhukin mouth.
A fukin men |
howard sanchez
DUST University Ivy League
527
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Posted - 2013.05.30 01:52:00 -
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hooc order wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:so level the playing field! I used to get worked by proto suits before I got a proto suit. yes there are a lot more problems but if being outmatched is your problem then get even. i know matchmaking would help a lot though....
If you have proto gear now you never had to face the shear cliff of having 2 million SP and going up against someone with 10 million SP. Everyone leveled up with you...with only a few people slightly ahead of you. Hooc,
Sometimes you post stuff that I find ;say this nice; less than stellar, but this post is very insightful.
CCP creates a learning cliff of bitter vets that new players must fling themselves against in order to survive. And with more and more new players joining behind Uprising's release the system of evolving gameplay in the sandbox is set in motion.
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Abron Garr
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
317
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:12:00 -
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2100 Angels wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:we now have an army of LAVs to run me over
Instant kill nades
Prototype gear that you have no chance agents unless your the top 10% of players who skill can carry them though.
6 man rofolstomp teams
corp drama so bad its not ever worth being part of (this appears to apply to every-unit)
TAC rifles that kill you before you even no whats going on.
a match maker that does not work.
PC that does not work and only favors 10% of ENTIRE player-base
apparently you give out free isk to everyone and then only tell some players that you going to take it back so the QQ their should admittedly be funny.
oh and all new players once the leave their bubble WILL get stomped regardless what the fan players or those in KNOW not all of us are gods gift to gaming and will lose horrifically.
In EvE their is something i can do to get away from all this if needed. Dust boils down to the below.
GET STOMPED or Fall behind and get stomped even more.
at what point is the fun im literary only playing so i can try and get something to help even the odds but im likely walking when destny comes out and you would be stupid not to think the rest of "loyal" fan base is thinking the same. you got lucky with defiance (and even then player drop was noticeable) i don't think you will catch a break twice.
right angy rant over im just getting sick of wasting hours in this game and not even having anything to show for it other than more lossed isk that apparently means f all anyway now
For the love of god, shut the hell up! This post has no feedback that could be taken as constructive, and should have been deleted as soon as it was put up. I'm sure 90% of the player base on here, myself included, are sick to death of seeing whiney little girls like you whinge about your self entitlement AT *EVERY* OPPORTUNITY. Shut. Up. Wasting hours playing the game? If that's your viewpoint, no matter what CCP do you'll be wasting your time. You should be playing for enjoyment regardless of bugs, and if the game is no longer enjoyable, stop playing. It seems pretty straight forward to me.... why spend your (leisure?) time doing something that you don't enjoy? How stupid are you exactly?
You ignorant mongoloid. Do you realize that no amount of your pathetic white-knighting is going to improve this game one iota? This game is in shambles, and unfortunately, we have no idea if CCP even acknowledges their mistakes. Uprising is a joke and we have no idea how CCP intends to fix it. The dev team working on Dust is night and day different than the EVE development team. At least with EVE you can find logic and progression towards a goal, even if you don't necessarily agree with it. I'm left wondering if Dust's dev team even knows what it's doing at this point because the player base sure as hell doesn't.
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Shrapnels
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
5
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Name me a unique feature that suddenly disappeared.
Mercenary Corp Contract Battles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dammm and your a CPM |
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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
273
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:28:00 -
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problem with CPM is the same as the game itself:
most of these players are cod players. they can and only want to fight in 10 foot areas. they want twitch based arcade shooter.
but they THINK they are "tactical hardcore players". the protoad gear has something to do with that. actually most.
so if you take the opinions of cod players on how to make a game like 514...
this is what we get.
the exact same thing as mag, all over again, with the same weapons nerfs, the same handholding and tendon cutting.
and then folks lean back and claim things are solid, this is a good game, even when the player count never breaks 10k, even as the reviews pour in from all over the web saying otherwise...
i don't get it, but i guess it makes the masses happy. who knows maybe CCP is making some serious money off of it.
when's the next patch? what's getting wrecked next? i guess anything currently useful on the field probably.
to be painfully honest: planetary is boring. i mean it's cool that the team is all there and it's cool that it actually means something on the map, but in the end, it's just pub rooms with no randoms. same game, FF on doesn't change much, gameplay all nerfed to hell means all the matches are just zerg matches. fun for a couple rounds a day, can't see hanging the summer on it.
ah well... good things come and go. sad this one seemed to go so fast.
Peace B |
Sinned Deluvian
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:59:00 -
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Some of you make it seem as if every couple of boots on the field is using proto gear. From my experience, that's not true, I rarely see more than 2-4 proto users in pub matches. FW, sometimes I encounter entire corps on the opposing team and if that's the case I play on defense or sit back with a sniper because I know they are going to win (mainly because of organization, not gear). Otherwise its just another disorganized team with a few protos that can easily be avoided, who most of the time are only there to farm kills for their obsession with KDR and as a result couldn't care less if their team wins or loses.
On the game itself, I don't understand all the dramatization. Your logic flaw, as I have said several times before, is that you immediately compare this game to COD and Battlefield (franchises with years of experience.) They are not even the same genre, you should go and check out other mmofps and see what DUST competes with. The only mmofpss I like as much as DUST are Planetside 2 and Blacklight Retribution, though the latter is too COD like for me.
When judging this game, dont have the same expectations you have from the likes of COD, battlefield. |
Sam Tektzby
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
7
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:01:00 -
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I basicaly agree wit first one, DUST is like wierd hybrid between MAG and Battlefield. I loved MAG for me its DEFO the BEST MMFPS on Ps3 system and frankly DUST is like, i dont know. PURE MEDIOCRE, great ideas but really bad finishing. Mechanix are wierd, there is basicaly not scent of comradeship like what i felt in MAG. Its really wierd. For exaple simple design of maps, its like "Oki iam on plain i should run somewhere", mechanix like OP riffles and UP grenadelauchners, whole that fix2nerf, system of P2W and many many more thingies what making this game just like "oki its not bad but can be better". I really feel myslef like in somekind of "longrun" BETA. And if i can compare it with other games, MAG was awesome in many ways just few bugs like freezes and lag, but globaly it was great piece. Battlefield and machinery, tanks in its awesome too. CoD mostly run and hit, neverending rush. But DUST its like everything together without core, just hollow inside. It can be better for sure, but for now its just spent eve with clan in still same boring plains of nothing, runed down by boyo in clowncar or shooted from TAR. And its really sad coz i think this game had some potential. But for now its just MEDIOCRE basicaly iam ingame just because my clan, without my boyos and gals i-Śll be DEFO out after first month. |
2100 Angels
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
129
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Posted - 2013.05.30 05:33:00 -
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Abron Garr wrote: You ignorant mongoloid. Do you realize that no amount of your pathetic white-knighting is going to improve this game one iota? This game is in shambles, and unfortunately, we have no idea if CCP even acknowledges their mistakes. Uprising is a joke and we have no idea how CCP intends to fix it. The dev team working on Dust is night and day different than the EVE development team. At least with EVE you can find logic and progression towards a goal, even if you don't necessarily agree with it. I'm left wondering if Dust's dev team even knows what it's doing at this point because the player base sure as hell doesn't.
haha! white knighting? give me a ******* break. the game is NOT in shambles, and is a gross exaggeration on your part, immediately ruining any credibility you hope to project. who gives two ***** if ccp acknowledges your idiotic and immature forum raging? That doesnt mean that there aren't issues, because there are, but stop being a ******* drama queen. there is a way to provide good meaningful input without being an absolute **** about it, maybe you and the OP should give it a go? I'm so sick of logging on these forums seeing the same ******* issues whined about by 12 year olds demanding their due like they actually have a right to it.
So in terms of improving the game? be damn sure that my input will be more helpful than any dribble you spill out between joints. If you're actually interested in improving the game OR communication with CCP, consider improving the quality of your posts; aside from it being infinitely more helpful, imagine what it would be like dealing with the absolute dross this community generates daily, I know for damn sure I would want very little to do with it |
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