DUST Search - CCP, Y U NO RESPEC MY CORPORATION SKILLS?!

SuperKing BigNuts wrote:

GM response about corp management:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82546&p=4

GM Grave wrote:

JERRY 666 wrote:

You are correct. After looking to see how much level 5 corporation skill is, the math works out. Why is it that you can't respec the corporation skills to the amount of member that are in the corporation? I requested in the respec ticket for this, but was only replied that this was not done. When the ability to create a corporation was first made, I didn't know then how it worked and kept buying corporation skill trying to get it too work. Sad

While we try not to meddle with corp skills in order to ensure your corp remains intact. If your issue was not resolved during the skill respec please file a support ticket and we'll see what we can do to help you out:
https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets

in eve, if you dont have adequate corp management as CEO, nothing bad happens aside from error message saying you cant accept new applications without appropriate skills.

as others have stated, exploits are possible, but then again people make CEO alts for a reason. if you arent an active CEO, i see no reason to NOT respec those points... and those attempting to exploit not having corp skills will flounder eventually... people will leave and they will not be able to bolster their forces until they grind out the SP for corp management again... all they are doing is playing on borrowed time trying to exploit in this fashion, just like people who over spent the ISK from yesterday... which i still have after a hotfix yesterday and downtime report stating it was now fixed...

as for why it silly that you are not allowed to respec corp management skills, there are cases where people were CEOs then merged into another corp and become regular members(possibly directors) but they are not CEO anymore, and now have 'wasted' SP after not only one but now TWO respecs.

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Anarchide Greedy Bastards 34	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:53:00 - [1] - Quote Am not mad about it or anything, just a question. I'm curious to know. Both Respec had this effect.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2013.05.29 13:55:00 - [2] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Am not mad about it or anything, just a question. I'm curious to know. Both Respec had this effect. You don't get it? It's so your corp doesn't go away. I would imagine they don't let another person start up a corp name and ticket that has already died, and the last person given up CEO.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 172	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:03:00 - [3] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Am not mad about it or anything, just a question. I'm curious to know. Both Respec had this effect. How many points you put in eh? You wanted 10,000 members huh? what you do? lol
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 519	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:13:00 - [4] - Quote It's so your corp doesn't lolsplode.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 34	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:14:00 - [5] - Quote The fact that anyone can become a CEO, without need of any Corp Skills, induced me to think that I could have kept my Corp anyway but I would have had to Respec into Corporation Skills if I wanted to create new ones and expeand them, that's all.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 34	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:15:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: It's so your corp doesn't lolsplode. That's already happened many times, lol
Zero Harpuia WarRavens 496	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:17:00 - [7] - Quote Anarchide wrote: The fact that anyone can become a CEO, without need of any Corp Skills, induced me to think that I could have kept my Corp anyway but I would have had to Respec into Corporation Skills if I wanted to create new ones and expeand them, that's all. The skill level determines the number of people allowed in the corp. Lets say you had 1000 and they respecced your corp skills. 990 people will be disoriented, pissed, and joining other corps left and right out of spite.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 36	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:24:00 - [8] - Quote Zero Harpuia wrote: Anarchide wrote: The fact that anyone can become a CEO, without need of any Corp Skills, induced me to think that I could have kept my Corp anyway but I would have had to Respec into Corporation Skills if I wanted to create new ones and expeand them, that's all. The skill level determines the number of people allowed in the corp. Lets say you had 1000 and they respecced your corp skills. 990 people will be disoriented, pissed, and joining other corps left and right out of spite. I thought that once a Corp had reached a level, it stays there, even if you give it to a player that hasn't any skills into Corporation. It's just that this player won't be able to expand it, unless he spec into Corp Skills and gets to the desired level.
THE GREY CARDINAL PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 107	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:29:00 - [9] - Quote I specifically asked for my corp skills to be refunded when I sent my petition. I explained that I made an EVE account more or less for this purpose. Come respec, Corp still at level 3. I wrote again and asked what was up, and I got a reply saying that this part of the skill tree wasn't flagged to be part of the refund and that it was tough luck (excpt it was put in a much more polite manner of course). I don't mind either, it's only about 50K SP or something, but I'm O.C.D and I hate having skills trained that I don't need. Dissapointing but oh well.
Delirium Inferno Edoras Corporation 477	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:31:00 - [10] - Quote If they respec'd corp skills I don't believe the corp would explode or anything. I mean a CEO can make anyone else CEO even if they don't have any corp skills and nothing would happen, everyone would stay in the corp. I always thought their reasoning was if they respec'd corp skills then everyone would still be in your corp and you'd have 0 skills invested in corp management (and would have no incentive to put them back). Free corp.
Cody Sietz The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 176	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:34:00 - [11] - Quote Cause that would make problems for corp owners?
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic ROFL BROS 1528	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:54:00 - [12] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Zero Harpuia wrote: Anarchide wrote: The fact that anyone can become a CEO, without need of any Corp Skills, induced me to think that I could have kept my Corp anyway but I would have had to Respec into Corporation Skills if I wanted to create new ones and expeand them, that's all. The skill level determines the number of people allowed in the corp. Lets say you had 1000 and they respecced your corp skills. 990 people will be disoriented, pissed, and joining other corps left and right out of spite. I thought that once a Corp had reached a level, it stays there, even if you give it to a player that hasn't any skills into Corporation. It's just that this player won't be able to expand it, unless he spec into Corp Skills and gets to the desired level. You're right, I'm guessing it's so people don't double dip. You dont get to keep the Skills effect and get the SP back.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 36	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:00:00 - [13] - Quote Makes perfect sense.
Heimdallr69 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 179	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:22:00 - [14] - Quote Anarchide wrote: Am not mad about it or anything, just a question. I'm curious to know. Both Respec had this effect. Atleast you got your respec I'm still waiting...
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 51	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:33:00 - [15] - Quote GM response about corp management: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82546&p=4 GM Grave wrote: JERRY 666 wrote: You are correct. After looking to see how much level 5 corporation skill is, the math works out. Why is it that you can't respec the corporation skills to the amount of member that are in the corporation? I requested in the respec ticket for this, but was only replied that this was not done. When the ability to create a corporation was first made, I didn't know then how it worked and kept buying corporation skill trying to get it too work. While we try not to meddle with corp skills in order to ensure your corp remains intact. If your issue was not resolved during the skill respec please file a support ticket and we'll see what we can do to help you out: https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets in eve, if you dont have adequate corp management as CEO, nothing bad happens aside from error message saying you cant accept new applications without appropriate skills. as others have stated, exploits are possible, but then again people make CEO alts for a reason. if you arent an active CEO, i see no reason to NOT respec those points... and those attempting to exploit not having corp skills will flounder eventually... people will leave and they will not be able to bolster their forces until they grind out the SP for corp management again... all they are doing is playing on borrowed time trying to exploit in this fashion, just like people who over spent the ISK from yesterday... which i still have after a hotfix yesterday and downtime report stating it was now fixed... as for why it silly that you are not allowed to respec corp management skills, there are cases where people were CEOs then merged into another corp and become regular members(possibly directors) but they are not CEO anymore, and now have 'wasted' SP after not only one but now TWO respecs.
Winscar Shinobi Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 230	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:51:00 - [16] - Quote SuperKing BigNuts wrote: GM response about corp management: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=82546&p=4 GM Grave wrote: JERRY 666 wrote: You are correct. After looking to see how much level 5 corporation skill is, the math works out. Why is it that you can't respec the corporation skills to the amount of member that are in the corporation? I requested in the respec ticket for this, but was only replied that this was not done. When the ability to create a corporation was first made, I didn't know then how it worked and kept buying corporation skill trying to get it too work. While we try not to meddle with corp skills in order to ensure your corp remains intact. If your issue was not resolved during the skill respec please file a support ticket and we'll see what we can do to help you out: https://dust514.com/user/help-tickets in eve, if you dont have adequate corp management as CEO, nothing bad happens aside from error message saying you cant accept new applications without appropriate skills. as others have stated, exploits are possible, but then again people make CEO alts for a reason. if you arent an active CEO, i see no reason to NOT respec those points... and those attempting to exploit not having corp skills will flounder eventually... people will leave and they will not be able to bolster their forces until they grind out the SP for corp management again... all they are doing is playing on borrowed time trying to exploit in this fashion, just like people who over spent the ISK from yesterday... which i still have after a hotfix yesterday and downtime report stating it was now fixed... as for why it silly that you are not allowed to respec corp management skills, there are cases where people were CEOs then merged into another corp and become regular members(possibly directors) but they are not CEO anymore, and now have 'wasted' SP after not only one but now TWO respecs. Yeah I did that and was told "we are never refunding SP in corp skills"
SuperKing BigNuts Contract Hunters 52	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:40:00 - [17] - Quote Winscar Shinobi wrote: Yeah I did that and was told "we are never refunding SP in corp skills" gave you the middle finger eh? not terribly surprising. if that petitions still open, i would refrence them back to GM Graves comment and see what gets done. worst thing that can happen is they say no again and you continue as you are.

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