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xprotoman23
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:39:00 -
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Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. |

Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:42:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. AAAAND less recoil. |

Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:43:00 -
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Where range is concerned, all weapons need to be looked at as the hard cap on weapon range really makes the TAR grossly superior. Also, I have outlined some concerns regarding the full-auto SR in my thread here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=875472#post875472
Basically, the full-auto SR's recoil needs to be reconsidered. |

Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:45:00 -
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The Assault variant needs less recoil. That's all I'd change with Scrambler Rifles. |

Skipper Jones
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 04:48:00 -
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Lavirac JR wrote:The Assault variant needs less recoil. That's all I'd change with Scrambler Rifles.
Or a skill to dampen them. I LOVE the Sr, but it seems weird that the Ar gets a skill to reduce recoil and the Sr doent't |

Protocake JR
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:06:00 -
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I just want them to get rid of the stupid yellow tint on the dot sight. Or at least make it so that I can actually see who i'm shooting at in dark and shady places |

Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:08:00 -
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You have a higher DPS phased plasma from an AR out ranging a pulse laser weapon. How in the hell is that fine? |

xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:09:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. AAAAND less recoil.
The "recoil" on the assault variant is perfect. If you are having issues controlling the "recoil" on the assault variant you really don't know what you're doing. |

xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:10:00 -
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Cosgar's Alt wrote:You have a higher DPS phased plasma from an AR out ranging a pulse laser weapon. How in the hell is that fine?
You play as a team and have a buddy pull agro while you get in CQC range and melt his ass. |

Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:10:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. AAAAND less recoil. The "recoil" on the assault variant is perfect. If you are having issues controlling the "recoil" on the assault variant you really don't know what you're doing. No! I don't use assault! Other pplz just say it so i spread le word  |
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Cosgar's Alt
Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:12:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Cosgar's Alt wrote:You have a higher DPS phased plasma from an AR out ranging a pulse laser weapon. How in the hell is that fine? You play as a team and have a buddy pull agro while you get in CQC range and melt his ass. You need to read Templar One... |

The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:15:00 -
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SCAR is fine and with added range I think it would be OP. It is a bad mo-fo, I have been running the proto assault with complexes and it is almost OP. I see many tears and maybe even a nerf in the future. Good luck to any shield tankers who run up on a proto assault, they are fast and hit hard. The charge version is also a killer but I don't do well with it because I am a trigger happy spray n' prayer sometimes and after the charge shot it is quick to provide feedback damage if you didn't one shot them. |

ManDingoWarrior
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:15:00 -
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Kimbo = AR Tank = SR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cshNYbyWEdM |

TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:17:00 -
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Agreed. |

Lavirac JR
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:20:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:SCAR is fine and with added range I think it would be OP. It is a bad mo-fo, I have been running the proto assault with complexes and it is almost OP. I see many tears and maybe even a nerf in the future. Good luck to any shield tankers who run up on a proto assault, they are fast and hit hard. The charge version is also a killer but I don't do well with it because I am a trigger happy spray n' prayer sometimes and after the charge shot it is quick to provide feedback damage if you didn't one shot them.
Yeah with Complex Damage Mods, it rips people apart, this is true. Hell without them it's pretty effective too. |

Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
767
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:21:00 -
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Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time. |

Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:21:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. AAAAND less recoil. The "recoil" on the assault variant is perfect. If you are having issues controlling the "recoil" on the assault variant you really don't know what you're doing.
The recoil is not perfect and should be addressed. The AR doesnt even flinch when firing. |

ManDingoWarrior
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:23:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. AAAAND less recoil. The "recoil" on the assault variant is perfect. If you are having issues controlling the "recoil" on the assault variant you really don't know what you're doing. The recoil is not perfect and should be addressed. The AR doesnt even flinch when firing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrZVASVPsA |

xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:25:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time.
As I said before if you have issues with TAC users have a buddy pull agro while somebody else flanks or gets into CQC range. |

Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
767
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:27:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time. As I said before if you have issues with TAC users have a buddy pull agro while somebody else flanks or gets into CQC range. Yes because to take one person down carrying an easy to use and common weapon should require someone to pretty much pull a suicide move while the other takes a 50/50 chance of survival. |
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xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:36:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time. As I said before if you have issues with TAC users have a buddy pull agro while somebody else flanks or gets into CQC range. Yes because to take one person down carrying an easy to use and common weapon should require someone to pretty much pull a suicide move while the other takes a 50/50 chance of survival.
If your playing with a squad you should have members of your group pulling agro while other players are flanking and stuff. It's actually fairly standard stuff most experienced players should be doing. |

Callidus Vanus
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:39:00 -
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GIVE ME SCORCH CRYSTALS OR GIVE ME SR SHARPSHOOTER! |

The Robot Devil
BetaMax. CRONOS.
310
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:40:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time. As I said before if you have issues with TAC users have a buddy pull agro while somebody else flanks or gets into CQC range.
Works almost every time. TAC user are a little smug because they think they can't be touched and if you let them they will kill themselves trying to get to you. The point is squad up and have the squad use different weapon types, do not play their game and use cover or back off. When a LR fix hits the TAC will be knocked down a peg and the tears will fall. |

Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:43:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:xprotoman23 wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:Vs the regular Ar it's fine, but against the broken one pretty much everyone abuses, it's a waste of time. As I said before if you have issues with TAC users have a buddy pull agro while somebody else flanks or gets into CQC range. Yes because to take one person down carrying an easy to use and common weapon should require someone to pretty much pull a suicide move while the other takes a 50/50 chance of survival. If your playing with a squad you should have members of your group pulling agro while other players are flanking and stuff. It's actually fairly standard stuff most experienced players should be doing. By that logic I have to be in a squad to engage one person using a weapon without meaningful drawbacks? Despite it being simple, it's too troublesome to have to do that for every person you engage carrying a tac ar. Also by that same logic I should have trouble facing anyone with a tac regardless if sp or skill. That doesn't sound like balanced gameplay to me. |

Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
70
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:45:00 -
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ManDingoWarrior wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrZVASVPsA
This shows the TAR which is comparable to the SR. Pull a video of the full-auto AR side by side the full-auto SR and you will see the difference I am talking about.
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ManDingoWarrior
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:48:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:ManDingoWarrior wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYrZVASVPsA This shows the TAR which is comparable to the SR. Pull a video of the full-auto AR side by side the full-auto SR and you will see the difference I am talking about.
http://youtu.be/vuOXS3sboB0 |

Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
70
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:21:00 -
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ManDingoWarrior wrote:http://youtu.be/vuOXS3sboB0
I am not sure what you are trying to say through this video. All it shows is the AR but no SR comparison to show how the SR's recoil needs to be addressed. |

xprotoman23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:23:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:ManDingoWarrior wrote:http://youtu.be/vuOXS3sboB0 I am not sure what you are trying to say through this video. All it shows is the AR but no SR comparison to show how the SR's recoil needs to be addressed.
The scrambler rifle recoil is fine. If you are having trouble controlling the recoil than it's probably overheating on you. |

JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
84
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:31:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Both variants only need more range. Noobs stop posting threads about how the SCAR is inferior to the AR. So the AR having better range, better dps, more accuracy and no heat build up is not inferior?(I know you said give the SCAR a range buff, but ill still add it in there) I will say I do good with SCAR, but lets face it, the AR is better, I switched from the TAR to the SCAR because I got tired of feeling like a noob and a dirty player abusing OP stuff lol |

Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
70
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:36:00 -
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xprotoman23 wrote:Gigatron Prime wrote:ManDingoWarrior wrote:http://youtu.be/vuOXS3sboB0 I am not sure what you are trying to say through this video. All it shows is the AR but no SR comparison to show how the SR's recoil needs to be addressed. The scrambler rifle recoil is fine. If you are having trouble controlling the recoil than it's probably overheating on you. Why dont you actually use the gun? The full-auto SR is flawed greatly by its ridiculous recoil. Compared to the AR, this is a problem. |
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