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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1657
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:35:00 -
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Hey all,
To better understand the general community opinion on matters, im going to start doing surveys and then publishing the data so we can perhaps better understand the community.
The surveys are completly anonymous and non identifiable, please fill them out and then share it with other people.
I may add more questions from time to time, when i do, ill let people know.
I'll be very interested to see the results.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1KQot5aRmSd3ogJ-oXDxbd4Zj8aWsZYLg0AsdOZ29gEA/viewform |
Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
1713
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:36:00 -
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THIS LOOKS COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE. I AM POSTING MY CREDIT CARD DETAILS IN IT NOW. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
33
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:38:00 -
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The survey looks promising but The forums are fool of a bunch of ass holes so I don't think this will work but I will still post my opinions. |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
84
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:38:00 -
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I like the idea. I hope you get enough responses for the data garnered to be useful. |
Alexandria Havok
Sunset Warriors
Legacy Rising
5
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:38:00 -
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+1 |
Talpa Lute
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:39:00 -
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Wheres the sexy people only survey? |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
614
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:40:00 -
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Love it. Love everything about it.
... Except question 1... Where's the "I drive naked" choice?
EDIT: While I do like it, what's to stop Goonswarm from flooding the election with votes for The Mi - larger corporations from swaying polls away from issues? Like, say, having everyone vote to buff Tac AR's or nerf Dropships (trollish crap)?
Then again, it's an opinion survey, not an official, so who gives a damn? Still like it though, +1. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
342
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:41:00 -
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Submitted! |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
161
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:43:00 -
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yes Lady Jenza I'll take your survey.
I'm 30 yr old.
I'm 5.8
Dark smoldering eyes.
Dark hair long hair.
180lbs. Fit.
I like horror movies and ...what?
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Oh... that survey.
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ReGnUM Public Relations
Imperfects Public Relations
346
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:47:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Hey all, To better understand the general community opinion on matters, im going to start doing surveys and then publishing the data so we can perhaps better understand the community. The surveys are completly anonymous and non identifiable, please fill them out and then share it with other people. I may add more questions from time to time, when i do, ill let people know. I'll be very interested to see the results. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1KQot5aRmSd3ogJ-oXDxbd4Zj8aWsZYLg0AsdOZ29gEA/viewform
Such a leading survey |
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
161
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:47:00 -
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Just did the survey. surprised me lass. 1+ like the question about once a year respec. The Drop suit OP one made me laugh tho. |
Tiel Syysch
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
829
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:48:00 -
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Think the forums ate my reply.
An opinion from someone who has had to design surveys before: Many of these questions/statements are not neutral, and would sway people in one direction more than another if they have no prior feelings on the matter. ie, deliberately relating items and "overpowered" in the statement, rather than asking for an opinion on its relative performance level and allowing the responder to choose between over/underpowered or not. |
DJINN Zact
Purgatorium of the Damned
League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:50:00 -
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I'm disappointing you said AWOXing instead if Jenzaning. Tsk Tsk Tsk. |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
272
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:51:00 -
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I commend the thought and gave the best replies I could muster but yes your questions are leading in nature. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
140
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:52:00 -
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No sniper rifles? I was forced to choose another weapon at random. Add sniper rifles and I will re-submit the application. Thank you. |
Seed Dren
Ill Omens
EoN.
16
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:53:00 -
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Should have done the survuey before awoxing to see what ppl thougth abot it .... you know |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1664
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Posted - 2013.05.29 00:56:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:No sniper rifles? I was forced to choose another weapon at random. Add sniper rifles and I will re-submit the application. Thank you.
whups! thanks for that! |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
1905
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:41:00 -
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Are dropships OP? Talk about a troll question... |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
162
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:44:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Are dropships OP? Talk about a troll question...
I laughed at that. wonder how many put that they agree? haha. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
42
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Posted - 2013.05.29 01:53:00 -
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Your survey is biased and is presenting multipart questions as a dicadamy. This is a logical fallacy. If I disagree with respects once a year am I disagreeing to have respecs ever? Am I disagreeing that we should have them more often? Less often? Also, you didn't cover all the issues, just ones that pertained to you. You should be asking "what issue matters most to you", or rank these as a priority. Otherwise your using the "community" to pigeon hole the discussion to just about dropships and ARs |
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Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
140
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:02:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Makyre Vahliha wrote:No sniper rifles? I was forced to choose another weapon at random. Add sniper rifles and I will re-submit the application. Thank you. whups! thanks for that!
Awesome, no problem :) |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1670
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:03:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Your survey is biased and is presenting multipart questions as a dicadamy. This is a logical fallacy. If I disagree with respects once a year am I disagreeing to have respecs ever? Am I disagreeing that we should have them more often? Less often? Also, you didn't cover all the issues, just ones that pertained to you. You should be asking "what issue matters most to you", or rank these as a priority. Otherwise your using the "community" to pigeon hole the discussion to just about dropships and ARs
this is just a basic thing, seperate from any official decion making so i can better understand the opinions of people rather than what side is the loudest in a thread. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
44
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:06:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Your survey is biased and is presenting multipart questions as a dicadamy. This is a logical fallacy. If I disagree with respects once a year am I disagreeing to have respecs ever? Am I disagreeing that we should have them more often? Less often? Also, you didn't cover all the issues, just ones that pertained to you. You should be asking "what issue matters most to you", or rank these as a priority. Otherwise your using the "community" to pigeon hole the discussion to just about dropships and ARs this is just a basic thing, seperate from any official decion making so i can better understand the opinions of people rather than what side is the loudest in a thread.
I'm just saying you need to make this surveys without anticipating an answer. Here ill go through it one more time and point out all the bad questions and how to reword them... |
BatKing Deltor
Tank Bros.
DARKSTAR ARMY
32
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:16:00 -
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Do we get to see these survey results when its over? |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
2204
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:17:00 -
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The CPM could actually do an official monthly survey? CCP could then know exactly how to troll us next :P
Submitted, and I think these surveys are a great plan. Be sure to publish the results for all to see though :)
It'll be interesting to see things like how armour tankers feel vs shield tankers about tanks being op. Stuff like that. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
125
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:22:00 -
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Questions 1 and 2 bothered me.
Question 1: I am forced to use a suit i do not wish to use because what would be my primary suit is not in the game, therefore I was forced to select the dropsuit I am stuck with until my proper suit is added.
Question 2: My Race would effect my dropsuit choice IF my dropsuit were in the game, however it is not so I was forced to answer a false response. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
44
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Posted - 2013.05.29 02:25:00 -
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WRONG: Agree/disagree: Awoxing should be harder, but still possible in the game
With 1 being strongly agree and 10 being strongly disagree
FIXED: How difficult should "AWOXing" be? AWOXing is a term used for sabotaging corporations by team killing in a Planetary Conquest match. 1 being extremely difficult, 10 being extremely easy
How effective do you feel the current corporation management system is?
1 being very effective, 10 being very ineffective
How important should spies be in Dust 514?
1 very important, 10 very unimportant
WRONG: Agree/disagree: Once a year, we should have the option of respeccing our skill points.
With 1 being strongly agree and 10 being strongly disagree
FIXED: How often should players be a able to completely reallocate their SP?
when ever they like
Weekly
Monthly
Yearly
At SP quotas
never
Should there be a monetary fee to reallocation of SP?
Agree/disagree
WRONG: Agree/disagree: Tactical Assault Rifles are over powered.
With 1 being strongly agree and 10 being strongly disagree
FIXED: Rank the following Light weapon in their effectiveness in fulfilling a specific battle role:
Rank the following ARs in their effectiveness:
WRONG: Agree/disagree: Tanks are Overpowered
With 1 being strongly agree and 10 being strongly disagree
FIXED: How effective are tanks on the battlefield?
1 extremely effective, 10 extremely ineffective
How would you respond to the following statement: "There is an effective counter to HAVs in this game"
1 strongly agree, 10 strongly disagree
How would you respond to the following statement: "HAVs are needed in every battle"
1 strongly agree, 10 strongly disagree
WRONG: Agree/disagree: Dropships are Overpowered
With 1 being strongly agree and 10 being strongly disagree
FIXED: How effective are Dropships on the battlefield?
1 extremely effective, 10 extremely ineffective
How would you respond to the following statement: "There is an effective counter to HAVs in this game"
1 strongly agree, 10 strongly disagree
How would you respond to the following statement: "Dropships are needed in every battle"
1 strongly agree, 10 strongly disagree |
Cass Barr
Red Star.
EoN.
85
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:24:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:gbghg wrote:Are dropships OP? Talk about a troll question... I laughed at that. wonder how many put that they agree? haha.
I assume this is a control question to weed out the clueless and those who didn't realize the 1-10 ranking system was backwards. |
Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1710
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:38:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:THIS LOOKS COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE. I AM POSTING MY CREDIT CARD DETAILS IN IT NOW.
Also, your scale of 1-10 with ten being DISAGREE is backwards and will skew your results.
Not to mention you can respond infinite times. So any one person with spare time can make it say whatever you please. |
Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1710
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:39:00 -
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DJINN Zact wrote:I'm disappointing you said AWOXing instead if Jenzaning. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
Jenzaning is if you fail despite AWOXing. |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3318
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:40:00 -
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"Are Dropships overpowered?"
ROFL
You be trollin' lady.
I see you trollin'
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Caeli SineDeo
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
551
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:40:00 -
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You need to take a research methods class and stats. Not a very well put together survey. Your questions are leading which will destroy your results. You do not use target/specific questioning well. And your broader questions are way to broad and seem to lead people.
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Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1710
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Posted - 2013.05.29 03:55:00 -
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It is good she is asking for feedback finally. That is the behavior I appreciate in CPM. Execution can improve with time hopefully.
HOWEVER
The only relevant questions for a CPM to be interested in were
Does your Character's Race have any impact on the suit you chose?
Awoxing should be harder, but still possible in the game
There should be model placeholder suits for the missing racial dropsuits.
Once a year, we should have the option of respeccing our skill points.
While the questions are horribly leading, at least they are relevant to CPM. Ironically, none of these are the questions marked required... |
Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1711
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:23:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:SoCal Ninja wrote:Your survey is biased and is presenting multipart questions as a dicadamy. This is a logical fallacy. If I disagree with respects once a year am I disagreeing to have respecs ever? Am I disagreeing that we should have them more often? Less often? Also, you didn't cover all the issues, just ones that pertained to you. You should be asking "what issue matters most to you", or rank these as a priority. Otherwise your using the "community" to pigeon hole the discussion to just about dropships and ARs this is just a basic thing, seperate from any official decion making so i can better understand the opinions of people rather than what side is the loudest in a thread.
It's called questionnaire bias. |
Nebra Tene
Roaming Blades
11
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:26:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:Hey all, To better understand the general community opinion on matters, im going to start doing surveys and then publishing the data so we can perhaps better understand the community. The surveys are completly anonymous and non identifiable, please fill them out and then share it with other people. I may add more questions from time to time, when i do, ill let people know. I'll be very interested to see the results. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1KQot5aRmSd3ogJ-oXDxbd4Zj8aWsZYLg0AsdOZ29gEA/viewform
Tho I like the idea, what's stopping anyone from abusing it by retaking it over and over?
Remember, if something can be abused, there will always be people who will try to do so, no matter if its important or not. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
142
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:30:00 -
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I am not sure whether or not the survey is for CCP or for her personal use, so it is irrelevant to have her change it. It is hers and not ours. If it was actually CCP's, they would have had her change it the way they want it. Everyone has their own opinion on surveying people and I think it's fine the way it is. |
ManDingoWarrior
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:32:00 -
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http://youtu.be/1DRyRNMDM2g |
Noc Tempre
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
1711
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Posted - 2013.05.29 05:34:00 -
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Makyre Vahliha wrote:I am not sure whether or not the survey is for CCP or for her personal use, so it is irrelevant to have her change it. It is hers and not ours. If it was actually CCP's, they would have had her change it the way they want it. Everyone has their own opinion on surveying people and I think it's fine the way it is.
Actually, there are objectively wrong ways to get other people's opinions. As presented now, the questions are useless for anything but confirmation bias. |
Sontie
Ill Omens
EoN.
446
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:44:00 -
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Seriously JEnza, delete this survey and use the wording SoCal gave you. It's 10 times better. |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
57
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Posted - 2013.05.29 06:53:00 -
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Sontie wrote:Seriously JEnza, delete this survey and use the wording SoCal gave you. It's 10 times better.
Heck, Might just make my own surveys that actually try and appropriate a holistic view of the dust player base so that CPMs can actually make the changes the REAL community wants. Or helps address the errors in perception in the community as well.
Already wanting to make a thread about a complete Class redesign and overhaul that is so desperately needed in this game, or i still need to finish my comparison sheet to prove scouts are stupidly underpowered.
Can I get paid for this stuff? |
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Fiddlestaxp
TeamPlayers
EoN.
64
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Posted - 2013.05.29 07:50:00 -
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You should do a survey on CPMs, community satisfaction with the CPMs, and how soon we would like elections of the CPMs.
That should be the first order of business. You aren't legitimate until elected. |
Warpawn Thanos
HongKong n Shanghai Merc Corp
7
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:12:00 -
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is jenza trying really hard after the AWOXing fiasco? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
168
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Posted - 2013.05.29 08:40:00 -
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Warpawn Thanos wrote:is jenza trying really hard after the AWOXing fiasco?
Jenza has been clear in what she's been doing. Had it been me, And I've said I'm having a bloody ol time, so sod off. everyone will cry and THAT'S IT. (Buggers think they gonna tell me what to do..) But that's why I'm not CPM.  Tho From what I've hear The Counsel of jedi's in eve gives you guys one word answers, and mostly with two letters. "NO"
At least the girl keeps trying. Yeah, it's not pretty. and yeah she views herself as player first and CPM second. Well then when it comes time to vote.. vote for me. I got one word answers I've been wanting to use.
Sol cal wording and survey is better then Jenza. **** it's better then one I could have made. And also a lot better then some of the cheeky monkeys here could've made. We all human here. move along.
EDIT: really?! I can't say the word Sh$$%t? |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
629
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Posted - 2013.05.29 09:47:00 -
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Not sure what's the value of such surveys. Forum members are a tiny fraction of the playerbase and the responders are a self-selecting sample, which are both big no-nos when it comes to surveys, making any conclusions from it invalid. More importantly, the sample represents the biggest no-lifers in Dust: people who frequent the forums AND have time to fill out surveys. |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
4067
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:00:00 -
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This survey is surprisingly lacking, I was expecting something more in-depth |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
442
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:03:00 -
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I did the survey, but I think you already have some really strong approval in your other thread for the placeholder suits. As a random sampling of Dust Forum goers/players, I can't recall the last thing that had that much universal acclaim. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
780
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:13:00 -
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Hey, let's all switch the de facto standard of 1 (strongly disagree) and 10 (strongly agree) with the reverse, and then only explain it using a faded out small font text.
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Heidoukan
Forsaken Immortals
Gentlemen's Agreement
10
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Posted - 2013.05.29 10:26:00 -
[48] - Quote
Jenza i'm sure we all appreciate your efforts in creating this survey. It looks good and right to the point.
Saying that, what is going to be your sample size for survey analysis ? |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1681
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:36:00 -
[49] - Quote
well this was only the first one and its good to see so many replys, dont worry, there will be more in the future and more polished ones :P
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CrotchGrab 360
Better Hide R Die
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
84
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:54:00 -
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SoCal Ninja wrote:Your survey is biased and is presenting multipart questions as a dicadamy. This is a logical fallacy. If I disagree with respects once a year am I disagreeing to have respecs ever? Am I disagreeing that we should have them more often? Less often? Also, you didn't cover all the issues, just ones that pertained to you. You should be asking "what issue matters most to you", or rank these as a priority. Otherwise your using the "community" to pigeon hole the discussion to just about dropships and ARs
it's like this ''how often would you buy music if it was X amount?'' with ''once a year'' being the only option, doesn't really tell you a lot... |
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Heidoukan
Forsaken Immortals
Gentlemen's Agreement
10
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:57:00 -
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Jenza,
Can i suggest some questions over a wide range of topics? |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta
CRONOS.
330
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:59:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:well this was only the first one and its good to see so many replys, dont worry, there will be more in the future and more polished ones :P
Please do pay attention to the previously proposed changes on the question format, because there-¦s a lot of ambiguity.
I-¦m in favor of Awoxing and i don-¦t think it should be harder, i have no opinion on the TAR being OP or not so i hope a 5 will be enough to answer, the skill respec question doesn-¦t scratch the surface of the main reason the skills would want to be respeced (most of the skills are basically SP sink instead of giving some bonus to something like in EVE).
It-¦s an excellent start, but some of the issues need a deeper approach to hit the core of the problems.
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Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
362
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
Yup definitely a bad survey. Dropsuits and weapons are required questions? I'm a dropship pilot, so yeah, I use a militia medium suit and a militia assault rifle, but that doesn't mean it EVER gets any use. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Molon Labe.
League of Infamy
346
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:48:00 -
[54] - Quote
Mithridates VI wrote:THIS LOOKS COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE. I AM POSTING MY CREDIT CARD DETAILS IN IT NOW.
Also, your scale of 1-10 with ten being DISAGREE is backwards and will skew your results.
Yup. I, like many humans, don't read, so don't count this at all. If it says "drop ships are OP" then you know not to count these results. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1127
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Posted - 2013.05.29 12:52:00 -
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All these madatory questions for vehicle users about dropsuits and whats our primary gun
My dropsuit is a tank and my gun a large railgun yet i have to answer these dumb questions
Your results are already flawed massively flawed |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1694
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Posted - 2013.05.30 02:49:00 -
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this was really mainly a test survey and to clear a few opinion curiosities. i appreciate all of the responses and the next one will be better. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
473
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Posted - 2013.05.30 03:02:00 -
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DJINN Zact wrote:I'm disappointing you said AWOXing instead if Jenzaning. Tsk Tsk Tsk.
Nah, AWOXING (if measures are taken to make it harder to do, which is what the poll was asking) will be legitimate metagame. Jenzaing is more like COD metagame. There is no way to make Jenzaing more difficult to do, as by it's very definition is nothing more than child's play difficulty level, and will never be anything more.
It's like trying to change the definition of noob to MLG pro, it just wouldn't work.  |
SoCal Ninja
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
77
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:03:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:this was really mainly a test survey and to clear a few opinion curiosities. i appreciate all of the responses and the next one will be better.
Kinda our point exactly. Don't make the next survey ask about "opinion curiosities" because they way you structured the survey you're getting confirmation bias. I'm sure the next one will be better. Otherwise, I'll be there. And I'll critique it again. But yeah good to see something constructive. Haven't seen anything like it since closed beta. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:24:00 -
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I honestly think they should do these either weekly or bi-weekly. Not only that i think CCP should step up and do a week poll as-well on the main login screen or throught the mail system (or make a new tab on neocom). Make the player have incentive to do it (either ISK or Sp reward). This would be a more precise way of gauging the majority player thoughts, instead of the more hardcore players on the forums. Then taking both the forum and the ingame thoughts and seeing what can be done to please both (or somewhat please both) |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1748
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:30:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:this was really mainly a test survey and to clear a few opinion curiosities. i appreciate all of the responses and the next one will be better.
Wow look, you get special treatment again. You even dodge forum bans. |
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