DUST Search - Minmitar Assault?

lowratehitman wrote:

James-5955 wrote:

Oh I'm excited to post in this thread...

Before the respec I had gone into Gallente assault and specialized in armor tanking. I very quickly regretted it as heavies I was playing with were getting around just as quickly as I was. I felt like armor didn't really give me much advantages, or at least not enough to make up for the slower rep speed and movement gimp.

After talking with some friends yesterday about the options I figured between Caldari logi or Minmitar Assault... I went Minmitar assault. I've only played 4 matches in it so far but I'm enjoying it much more than I did the Gallente assault suit. It wasn't difficult to fit; with an enhanced CPU & PG mod I was able to fit my advanced and proto fits how I wanted (though I'd need proto CPU/PG mods to finish it, just not enough SP yet).

On the prototype suit I'm running 5 complex shield mods so my tank is pretty good, however my hybrid build I haven't tried yet is 3 complex shield & 2 complex dmg mods which I think will work out better. Generally sticking to the advanced suit since with the mods I can fit 3 complex shields, proto AR, proto uplink, toxin SMG & packed AV nades; which has been working out great.

It doesn't have the potential to reach a ridiculous EHP, even though my skills aren't maxed I believe I'm still around 600 or so. But hell.. that's still more than I had with armor tanking, recharging faster, and giving me 2 complex dmg mods.. so... YEAH! Can't wait to play it again.

Excited to get further spec'd into AV with all that dmg mod potential.

I had to use a proto cpu mod as well. i have to tweek it a lil bit but I am running 4x complex shield extender, 1 enhanced sheild recharger and regulator and the cpu mod. GEK , proto smg, hives, packed av.

From a logical standpoint it was a tremendous step down from funning the caldari logi proto, but i had to get away from the hip crowd and go a diff path. I would like to see the % 's of what the population of dust is in regards to logi, assault, heavy, and scout.

*PHONICS*

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Icy TIG3R Ametat Security Amarr Empire 209	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:03:00 - [1] - Quote How is this suit? Any opinions or feedback? I'm thinking of skilling into it. Also, could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots?
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 616	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:04:00 - [2] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots? Yes, it does. There was a youtube video montage posted a week ago of someone beasting with proto FP sporting 4 in the clip.
Centurion mkII SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 58	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:06:00 - [3] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: How is this suit? Any opinions or feedback? I'm thinking of skilling into it. Also, could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots? I think level 4 gets you 4 shots. Its similar to caldari but more speedy and less defensive. A shield recharger wouldn't be amiss. Its flat bonus to one armor repair per second is nice. The higher base speed can make you strafe better.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY 60	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:18:00 - [4] - Quote I'm a former Mimnatar nova knife scouter who switched to Minmatar Assault after the current respect. Only did 10ish games so far, but here's my opinion vs the scout suit: Pros - Better tank...you can stay in fights longer. - Easier fitting. - With speed mods still quick enough. - Still decent stamina...as opposed to the logi (which is why I didn't go logi despite it's ok speed) Cons - Slower...yes, it's still quick, but I miss the crazy speeds sometimes. Tougher to dodge damage or make a run for it. - No nova knife damage bonus. - Larger hitbox. Overall I still miss the speed and nova knife damage because I liked knifing. In the end I'm still going to max out scout and logi suits. Having said that, I'm glad I made the switch. In domination maps I am now more useful when my squad has to "bunker up" after taking objectives. I can stay in fights longer which is nice. If I speed fit the assault suit, I can still zoom around quickly like a scout...but I won't be using nova knives. Tried knifing, and while it's still ok, you do notice the difference in damage. The Minmatar assault suit is probably the slowest suit I'd play apart from the Minmatar logi (which I'd speed fit most of the time). Between the scout and assault it's just a different playstyle. With the scout you have to constantly flank and stalk your prey...you can't take on a ton head on. The only thing you can take head on is slow stuff like heavies if you're nova knifing...snipers and forge gunners too. When playing the assault you have more staying power. So if one guy comes at you, you can say "bring it" and battle it out easier. You don't have to be as careful when picking your targets, and a 2vs1 doesn't automatically result in your death. Regarding Flaylocks, you can get 4 shots by training the ammo skill...it rounds it up. So no need for the Minmatar suit if that's your goal. It's a really nice bonus for SMG users though. You'll still be firing when they have to reload :D
StubbyDucky KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 22	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:19:00 - [5] - Quote Centurion mkII wrote: Icy TIG3R wrote: How is this suit? Any opinions or feedback? I'm thinking of skilling into it. Also, could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots? I think level 4 gets you 4 shots. Its similar to caldari but more speedy and less defensive. A shield recharger wouldn't be amiss. Its flat bonus to one armor repair per second is nice. The higher base speed can make you strafe better. So yeah it use to now even the SMG does not have 100 rounds with this suit. Way to go CCP.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 242	Posted - 2013.05.28 23:22:00 - [6] - Quote Sidearm Monster should be the name of it.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed. 398	Posted - 2013.05.29 01:41:00 - [7] - Quote Best Swarm Launcher class dropsuit. Proto gives you 5 high slots and two low. So you can pile the damage mods on. You also get way more rounds for the SMG, which gives you a ton of power against infantry (especially if you use those flux grenades). I'm glad I made the switch. AV 4 LIFE!
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 613	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:04:00 - [8] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: How is this suit? Any opinions or feedback? I'm thinking of skilling into it. Also, could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots? I am having fun with it thats for sure. The only down side I am seeing is the lack of HP. I am stacking 4 complex sheild extenders and have my core skills to 5 on the %5 shield and armour core and have something like 435 shld/143 arm. It is like a little wrecking ball though that has the potntial to be hell on wheels (speed). I had to stray away from the logi with at least 60% of the dust population going that route... I am also still messing with the fitting only sinking around 10 mil sp into it and saving 2.5 mil for tweeking, but as with all the suits, cp is a issue even at core skill 5.
James-5955 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 183	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:13:00 - [9] - Quote Oh I'm excited to post in this thread... Before the respec I had gone into Gallente assault and specialized in armor tanking. I very quickly regretted it as heavies I was playing with were getting around just as quickly as I was. I felt like armor didn't really give me much advantages, or at least not enough to make up for the slower rep speed and movement gimp. After talking with some friends yesterday about the options I figured between Caldari logi or Minmitar Assault... I went Minmitar assault. I've only played 4 matches in it so far but I'm enjoying it much more than I did the Gallente assault suit. It wasn't difficult to fit; with an enhanced CPU & PG mod I was able to fit my advanced and proto fits how I wanted (though I'd need proto CPU/PG mods to finish it, just not enough SP yet). On the prototype suit I'm running 5 complex shield mods so my tank is pretty good, however my hybrid build I haven't tried yet is 3 complex shield & 2 complex dmg mods which I think will work out better. Generally sticking to the advanced suit since with the mods I can fit 3 complex shields, proto AR, proto uplink, toxin SMG & packed AV nades; which has been working out great. It doesn't have the potential to reach a ridiculous EHP, even though my skills aren't maxed I believe I'm still around 600 or so. But hell.. that's still more than I had with armor tanking, recharging faster, and giving me 2 complex dmg mods.. so... YEAH! Can't wait to play it again. Excited to get further spec'd into AV with all that dmg mod potential.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 613	Posted - 2013.05.29 04:24:00 - [10] - Quote James-5955 wrote: Oh I'm excited to post in this thread... Before the respec I had gone into Gallente assault and specialized in armor tanking. I very quickly regretted it as heavies I was playing with were getting around just as quickly as I was. I felt like armor didn't really give me much advantages, or at least not enough to make up for the slower rep speed and movement gimp. After talking with some friends yesterday about the options I figured between Caldari logi or Minmitar Assault... I went Minmitar assault. I've only played 4 matches in it so far but I'm enjoying it much more than I did the Gallente assault suit. It wasn't difficult to fit; with an enhanced CPU & PG mod I was able to fit my advanced and proto fits how I wanted (though I'd need proto CPU/PG mods to finish it, just not enough SP yet). On the prototype suit I'm running 5 complex shield mods so my tank is pretty good, however my hybrid build I haven't tried yet is 3 complex shield & 2 complex dmg mods which I think will work out better. Generally sticking to the advanced suit since with the mods I can fit 3 complex shields, proto AR, proto uplink, toxin SMG & packed AV nades; which has been working out great. It doesn't have the potential to reach a ridiculous EHP, even though my skills aren't maxed I believe I'm still around 600 or so. But hell.. that's still more than I had with armor tanking, recharging faster, and giving me 2 complex dmg mods.. so... YEAH! Can't wait to play it again. Excited to get further spec'd into AV with all that dmg mod potential. I had to use a proto cpu mod as well. i have to tweek it a lil bit but I am running 4x complex shield extender, 1 enhanced sheild recharger and regulator and the cpu mod. GEK , proto smg, hives, packed av. From a logical standpoint it was a tremendous step down from funning the caldari logi proto, but i had to get away from the hip crowd and go a diff path. I would like to see the % 's of what the population of dust is in regards to logi, assault, heavy, and scout. PHONICS

Eldest Dragon D3LTA ACADEMY 25	Posted - 2013.05.29 12:22:00 - [11] - Quote lowratehitman wrote: James-5955 wrote: Oh I'm excited to post in this thread... Before the respec I had gone into Gallente assault and specialized in armor tanking. I very quickly regretted it as heavies I was playing with were getting around just as quickly as I was. I felt like armor didn't really give me much advantages, or at least not enough to make up for the slower rep speed and movement gimp. After talking with some friends yesterday about the options I figured between Caldari logi or Minmitar Assault... I went Minmitar assault. I've only played 4 matches in it so far but I'm enjoying it much more than I did the Gallente assault suit. It wasn't difficult to fit; with an enhanced CPU & PG mod I was able to fit my advanced and proto fits how I wanted (though I'd need proto CPU/PG mods to finish it, just not enough SP yet). On the prototype suit I'm running 5 complex shield mods so my tank is pretty good, however my hybrid build I haven't tried yet is 3 complex shield & 2 complex dmg mods which I think will work out better. Generally sticking to the advanced suit since with the mods I can fit 3 complex shields, proto AR, proto uplink, toxin SMG & packed AV nades; which has been working out great. It doesn't have the potential to reach a ridiculous EHP, even though my skills aren't maxed I believe I'm still around 600 or so. But hell.. that's still more than I had with armor tanking, recharging faster, and giving me 2 complex dmg mods.. so... YEAH! Can't wait to play it again. Excited to get further spec'd into AV with all that dmg mod potential. I had to use a proto cpu mod as well. i have to tweek it a lil bit but I am running 4x complex shield extender, 1 enhanced sheild recharger and regulator and the cpu mod. GEK , proto smg, hives, packed av. From a logical standpoint it was a tremendous step down from funning the caldari logi proto, but i had to get away from the hip crowd and go a diff path. I would like to see the % 's of what the population of dust is in regards to logi, assault, heavy, and scout. PHONICS I currently do not have high sp, but I do have the complex shield ext and there great, my ar is ok atm. I'm having a hard time choosing between cal logi or assault(equipment slots idc about), due to the fact that the assault may have 1 less high and low slot, which means less customization. But the assault auto is faster, has 30 more arm/shields, increased weapon reload, and more shield regen.On a logi I can make up for the hp with an extender and the regen with an extender, but that leaves me slower, with less hp or shield regen (one or the other) unless I want to sacrifice a dmg mod to use both, and less weapon reload speed. As an assault based player, I'm not sure the slots on logi does much more than make up for the losses. The up side of logi ofc is..auto arm repair, shield ext slightly more effective, and more customization options/with less need for core upg's. I do know however, even if I go proto logi, I will first get advanced assault. There is no doubt which adv suit is better, as far as i'm concerned, and the 500,000 sp for advanced suit is nothing compared to the 2,500,000 for the proto. So adv assault 1st, then i'm rlly not sure, anyone care to point out something i've missed or offer some input...it will be read and used accordingly... You all have a nice day =)
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 267	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:22:00 - [12] - Quote I went from Gallante Scout to Mimitar Assault. I put an ehanced kin cat in my low slot, 2 complex and 1 enhanced shield in my high (currently just running advanced). Its a major step up. I have all the speed (and more sprint speed) than the Gallante Scout with like twice as much eHp. I do notice the hit box though I get a lot less "whiz" of bullets in combat and more ouchies. Ive also switched from TAR to SCR so theres a noticible decrease in my personal abilities, but the increase in the suits abilities is making the end result about even. Mimitar Assault + TAR is insane though cause you can just back up out of CQ while hipfiring and put people at that optimal murder range for TAR. Once I learn to not try to charge-headshot everything with my SCR i think it will be almost as solid. The 1hp passive regain is nice too. I run a compact nano in my equipment to suppliment the armor recharge when I need it in an emergency.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 859	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:24:00 - [13] - Quote 4 Core Flaylock missiles and 100 Six Kin SMG bullets agree that this suit is awesome.
mikegunnz Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 591	Posted - 2013.05.29 14:58:00 - [14] - Quote James-5955 wrote: Oh I'm excited to post in this thread... Before the respec I had gone into Gallente assault and specialized in armor tanking. I very quickly regretted it as heavies I was playing with were getting around just as quickly as I was. I felt like armor didn't really give me much advantages, or at least not enough to make up for the slower rep speed and movement gimp. After talking with some friends yesterday about the options I figured between Caldari logi or Minmitar Assault... I went Minmitar assault. I've only played 4 matches in it so far but I'm enjoying it much more than I did the Gallente assault suit. It wasn't difficult to fit; with an enhanced CPU & PG mod I was able to fit my advanced and proto fits how I wanted (though I'd need proto CPU/PG mods to finish it, just not enough SP yet). On the prototype suit I'm running 5 complex shield mods so my tank is pretty good, however my hybrid build I haven't tried yet is 3 complex shield & 2 complex dmg mods which I think will work out better. Generally sticking to the advanced suit since with the mods I can fit 3 complex shields, proto AR, proto uplink, toxin SMG & packed AV nades; which has been working out great. It doesn't have the potential to reach a ridiculous EHP, even though my skills aren't maxed I believe I'm still around 600 or so. But hell.. that's still more than I had with armor tanking, recharging faster, and giving me 2 complex dmg mods.. so... YEAH! Can't wait to play it again. Excited to get further spec'd into AV with all that dmg mod potential. We should chat James. I've got Minmatar too. If you experiment, you can get the EHP to almost 750. (if you decide you want to just tank HP) IMO, I picked this suit because it gives you the most flexibility. You can speed tank very well, you can Shield tanks very well, you can glass cannon with this suit, you can even make a decent 50/50 suit for shield and armor tanking. The std/adv suits are arguably a little weaker vs other races, but the proto is awesome. Many overlook it, because of it only having two low slots and less base HP. But it has a built-in 1HP repper, and faster speeds. Meaning, no NEED for a repper (yes I know 1HP is slow) and you can tank armor plates and still be a no slower than the other suits' default speed. Edit: and can't forget that having 100 SMG rounds is awesome for those that love using SMGs.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:24:00 - [15] - Quote @ R'adeh Hunt - Is that confirmed on the FP Ammo Cap giving a 4th shot to the clip? Does that mean if you max that and go to Lv5 Min Assault you can get 5 shots per clip Either way - you guys have inspired me to go Min Assault after I build up my Scout. I'll leave Gallente to my Alt.
fahrenheitM Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 287	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:27:00 - [16] - Quote Icy TIG3R wrote: How is this suit? Any opinions or feedback? I'm thinking of skilling into it. Also, could the 25% clip increase potentially give me 4 Flaylock shots? I enjoyed it for the speed alone.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 859	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:28:00 - [17] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: @ R'adeh Hunt - Is that confirmed on the FP Ammo Cap giving a 4th shot to the clip? Does that mean if you max that and go to Lv5 Min Assault you can get 5 shots per clip Either way - you guys have inspired me to go Min Assault after I build up my Scout. I'll leave Gallente to my Alt. Max is 4. I haven't checked to see if the Breach variant gets 3 though.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 267	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:42:00 - [18] - Quote Does anyone know if the scrambler pistol gains 1 or 2 rounds from the skill? Or, in some crazy world is it 3 (applying the 25% to the 11 rounds from a level 5 scrambler)
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 58	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:45:00 - [19] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: @ R'adeh Hunt - Is that confirmed on the FP Ammo Cap giving a 4th shot to the clip? Does that mean if you max that and go to Lv5 Min Assault you can get 5 shots per clip Either way - you guys have inspired me to go Min Assault after I build up my Scout. I'll leave Gallente to my Alt. Max is 4. I haven't checked to see if the Breach variant gets 3 though. You have FP Ammo Lv 5 and Min Assault Lv5 - or is it stated somewhere that the most the clip can be is 4.
hydraSlav's Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 173	Posted - 2013.05.29 15:58:00 - [20] - Quote Bones McGavins wrote: Does anyone know if the scrambler pistol gains 1 or 2 rounds from the skill? Or, in some crazy world is it 3 (applying the 25% to the 11 rounds from a level 5 scrambler) I've tested Swarm Launcher Operation skill (gives 10% Clip Size). The effect is rounded. At 3.4, my clip size was 3, at 3.6, my clip size went to 4. I've also tested Flaylock pistol with Minmatar Assault suit bonus. The effect is also rounded. At LVL3 skill 3.45, i still had clip size of 3. At LVL4 skill 3.6, clip size increased to 4. As for the scrambler pistol: i have not tested that. However, %-based bonuses are usually applied before the plain-bonus. So it should be 6 * Skill Suit + Skill Operation 6 * 1.25 + 5 = 12.5 However, CCP is using "round-half-down" method (refer to post #115 here), so 12.5 becomes 12. Had it been 12.51, it would have become 13.

Nirwanda Vaughns Molon Labe. League of Infamy 53	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:14:00 - [21] - Quote i have the assault 3 on my alt and i have to admit i'm quite enjoying running dual SMGs on it with 92 rounds in the clip. one thing few corp mates have discussed is if it would be possible for the minny assault to actually dual wield twin SMGs though instead. thatd be pretty awesome
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 860	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:37:00 - [22] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: @ R'adeh Hunt - Is that confirmed on the FP Ammo Cap giving a 4th shot to the clip? Does that mean if you max that and go to Lv5 Min Assault you can get 5 shots per clip Either way - you guys have inspired me to go Min Assault after I build up my Scout. I'll leave Gallente to my Alt. Max is 4. I haven't checked to see if the Breach variant gets 3 though. You have FP Ammo Lv 5 and Min Assault Lv5 - or is it stated somewhere that the most the clip can be is 4. The ammo skill doesn't affect magazine size, just your total ammo pool. Only the Min Assault can increase the clip.
Jin Robot Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 668	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:42:00 - [23] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Knarf Black wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: @ R'adeh Hunt - Is that confirmed on the FP Ammo Cap giving a 4th shot to the clip? Does that mean if you max that and go to Lv5 Min Assault you can get 5 shots per clip Either way - you guys have inspired me to go Min Assault after I build up my Scout. I'll leave Gallente to my Alt. Max is 4. I haven't checked to see if the Breach variant gets 3 though. You have FP Ammo Lv 5 and Min Assault Lv5 - or is it stated somewhere that the most the clip can be is 4. The ammo skill doesn't affect magazine size, just your total ammo pool. Only the Min Assault can increase the clip. Yes, it only effects how much ammo you carry, not clip size.
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 59	Posted - 2013.05.29 16:59:00 - [24] - Quote Thanks because the post made it sound like you could get the extra shot from skilling up FP ammo cap.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 267	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:35:00 - [25] - Quote So you only gain 1 for scrambler? Lame-0. I was hoping it would be (6+Skill Operation)Skill Suit So (6+5)1.25 =13.75 = 14 3 extra scrambler bullets would be so sexy.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 61	Posted - 2013.05.29 17:47:00 - [26] - Quote Mhhh, I could have sworn I had 4 shots before switching to assault suits...but I might be wrong. Obviously can't go back in time and check, sry ;) Still standing by it though, the Minmatar assault is a great suit. Don't listen to the stats addicts who don't consider how often the superior speed of the Minmatar suit will save you ;)
TEBOW BAGGINS GHETTOSTAR GALACTICA 577	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:20:00 - [27] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Best Swarm Launcher class dropsuit. Proto gives you 5 high slots and two low. So you can pile the damage mods on. You also get way more rounds for the SMG, which gives you a ton of power against infantry (especially if you use those flux grenades). I'm glad I made the switch. AV 4 LIFE! yea that's the proto minmatar basic.. i see no point in skilling suits any farther, i'm extremely content with this suit
Novawolf McDustingham The514th Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 118	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:46:00 - [28] - Quote If the sidearm ammo bonus is calculating differently for different weapons that sounds like a glitch that needs to be fixed. An 80 round SMG should get 100 rounds at Winmatar assault level 5, but it only gets what? 88? That' means only calculating 2% per level on SMGs. That is wrong. CCP, tell your calculator to go home, it's drunk. This needs to be addressed and clarified. These arbitrary decisions on what gets what while ignoring your own tooltips makes it difficult for new players to plan a career path.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 862	Posted - 2013.05.29 18:48:00 - [29] - Quote Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote: If the sidearm ammo bonus is calculating differently for different weapons that sounds like a glitch that needs to be fixed. An 80 round SMG should get 100 rounds at Winmatar assault level 5, but it only gets what? 88? That' means only calculating 2% per level on SMGs. That is wrong. CCP, tell your calculator to go home, it's drunk. This needs to be addressed and clarified. These arbitrary decisions on what gets what while ignoring your own tooltips makes it difficult for new players to plan a career path. I have 100 SMG rounds. It seems to be working for me.
Novawolf McDustingham The514th Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 118	Posted - 2013.05.29 19:24:00 - [30] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: Novawolf McDustingham The514th wrote: If the sidearm ammo bonus is calculating differently for different weapons that sounds like a glitch that needs to be fixed. An 80 round SMG should get 100 rounds at Winmatar assault level 5, but it only gets what? 88? That' means only calculating 2% per level on SMGs. That is wrong. CCP, tell your calculator to go home, it's drunk. This needs to be addressed and clarified. These arbitrary decisions on what gets what while ignoring your own tooltips makes it difficult for new players to plan a career path. I have 100 SMG rounds. It seems to be working for me. well. ok then. that's the last time i take anyone in this threads word for things... YOU HEAR ME, THREAD?!? THE LAST TIME! Oh, wait... i did it again...



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