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Buster Friently Rosen Association 536	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:25:00 - [31] - Quote Ok, so here are the real numbers : More than 2.5 million mercs created, and usually a daily max of about 8k online at any one time. For anything else, you're going to have to ask CCP. Sources : http://dustboard.com/global http://eve-offline.net/?server=DUST&history=1
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:28:00 - [32] - Quote 2.5 million is a throwaway number though. +1 to you for the info. Thanks
Buster Friently Rosen Association 537	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:33:00 - [33] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: 2.5 million is a throwaway number though. +1 to you for the info. Thanks If I'm interpreting the graphs correctly, we're currently looking at about 500 to 1000 new mercs per hour. Now, yes, none of this directly tells us how many accounts are currently active. I think only CCP can answer that.
undeadsoldier90 Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 486	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:45:00 - [34] - Quote Fact of the matter is they said monday 6k people. Its monday.... no respec.... ccp lied and or has no idea what they are doing. So everyone who is angry has every right to be. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Shouldn't they have made a post saying " hey guys sorry blah blah blah happened and respecs will be tuesday downtime." Nothing. So it only makes things worse that they will not comment or post anything, a time frame, a " oops sorry we **** up" Ccp who ever runs your customer service department is a ****. Me personally I didn't expect them to keep their word, so now everything they say will be taken with a grain of salt simply because they refuse to bring us in the loop.
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 142	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:48:00 - [35] - Quote Surt gods end wrote: 1) they get to it when they get to it. 2) 9000 playing at a time, while 20,000 total. IS NOT A LARGE NUMBER, COMPARED TO OTHER FPS ... OR MMO GAMES. **** EVE NUMBERS DON"T COME CLOSE TO SOME MMO GAME TOTAL PLAYERS. And it's not going up thanks to reviews over at meta critic. Metacritic Dust514 critic and user score the senseless defending of CCP sometimes borders on "cult mentality" I've heard other mmo refer to core eve players that, but I never knew why. Been here months and I'm starting to see why. geez.. Because there's no criticism of metacritic's methodology at all, because directly comparing absolute numbers is always the only valid metric to asses a product's success and, lastly, because any of his has any bearing whatsoever on the technical implications of manually, thouroughly and correctly modifiying huge automated databases in non trivial ways. Right
Konohamaru Sarutobi Ahrendee Mercenaries 282	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:50:00 - [36] - Quote undeadsoldier90 wrote: Fact of the matter is they said monday 6k people. Its monday.... no respec.... ccp lied and or has no idea what they are doing. So everyone who is angry has every right to be. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Shouldn't they have made a post saying " hey guys sorry blah blah blah happened and respecs will be tuesday downtime." Nothing. So it only makes things worse that they will not comment or post anything, a time frame, a " oops sorry we **** up" Ccp who ever runs your customer service department is a ****. Me personally I didn't expect them to keep their word, so now everything they say will be taken with a grain of salt simply because they refuse to bring us in the loop. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Sorry but they sent 2 CPM at the same time to reply in this thread. You need to respect that. Is the best that they can do after this situation. Don't ask for more "enthusiasm"
Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 142	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:51:00 - [37] - Quote undeadsoldier90 wrote: Fact of the matter is they said monday 6k people. Its monday.... no respec.... ccp lied and or has no idea what they are doing. So everyone who is angry has every right to be. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Shouldn't they have made a post saying " hey guys sorry blah blah blah happened and respecs will be tuesday downtime." Nothing. So it only makes things worse that they will not comment or post anything, a time frame, a " oops sorry we **** up" Ccp who ever runs your customer service department is a **. Me personally I didn't expect them to keep their word, so now everything they say will be taken with a grain of salt simply because they refuse to bring us in the loop. CCP Frame wrote:** The current plan is to run first batch of respec on Monday. Things may change in the meantime though. Stay tuned for more details very soon, guys. That's the kind of absolute certainty that justifies the accusation of lying. For you, that is. How hard is it to chill the kitten out. Seriously?
undeadsoldier90 Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 486	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:57:00 - [38] - Quote Konohamaru Sarutobi wrote: undeadsoldier90 wrote: Fact of the matter is they said monday 6k people. Its monday.... no respec.... ccp lied and or has no idea what they are doing. So everyone who is angry has every right to be. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Shouldn't they have made a post saying " hey guys sorry blah blah blah happened and respecs will be tuesday downtime." Nothing. So it only makes things worse that they will not comment or post anything, a time frame, a " oops sorry we **** up" Ccp who ever runs your customer service department is a ****. Me personally I didn't expect them to keep their word, so now everything they say will be taken with a grain of salt simply because they refuse to bring us in the loop. So what does ccp do? Nothing. Sorry but they sent 2 CPM at the same time to reply in this thread. You need to respect that. Is the best that they can do after this situation. Don't ask for more "enthusiasm" Did these cpms give us any pertinent information? No.
hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7	Posted - 2013.05.27 19:58:00 - [39] - Quote those charts or bogus as hell, 2milion dust 514 mercs. Yeah right, that numb er would mean that 6000 online at any giving time spells failed gamed. I would hide that info if that where true. COD doesn't have that many player for one game on us server.
Setaceous Prime Nexus Prima 35	Posted - 2013.05.27 20:07:00 - [40] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: According to estimates there are not just 6,000 players but possibly 90,000+ players. All those that respect though would have to be manually flagged. Eve GM center only processes about 14,000 tickets a day according to their last GM blog. - You mean characters Has anyone at anytime ever seen over 10,000 players online? Anyway - not adding to the rant, just trying to keep facts straight. 7-8k dropping to 6-7 k off peak, 24 hours a day, every day. You'd have to assume at least some of those are newbies or casuals that only play for a few hours on the weekend and maybe for an hour at a time during the week. The roll through of players suggests that there are a lot more than what shows up as connected. Logic, boys and girls, tells us that there is more to see than our little snapshots of what is happen when we're on.

Malkai Inos The Vanguardians Orion Empire 142	Posted - 2013.05.27 20:08:00 - [41] - Quote hamual jackson wrote: those charts are bogus as hell, 2milion dust 514 mercs. Yeah right, that numb er would mean that 6000 online at any giving time spells failed gamed. I would hide that info if that where true. COD doesn't have that many player for one game on us server. It is completely normal for a free service to retain only a tiny fraction of registered accounts as regular users. Statistically, that number is really nothing out of the ordinary and anyone with some marketing experience is aware of the fact that the vast majority of this this accounts did not login more than twice if at all and will never return. Again, that's expected behaviour in this segment.
EKH0 0ne R.I.f.t 46	Posted - 2013.05.27 20:11:00 - [42] - Quote Wombat in combat wrote: Where do you get the 6000 number from? That's about the average concurrent users playing at any time. Not all Dust players are playing at the same time. That means the Dust population is quite higher, I'd estimate it at 30-50k. Take a look at eve-offline.net and convince yourself. It takes allot of time because the game masters have to manually select and verify every petition that didn't contain the subject "Skill respec". .....no they dont
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2013.05.27 20:39:00 - [43] - Quote Setaceous Prime wrote: Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: According to estimates there are not just 6,000 players but possibly 90,000+ players. All those that respect though would have to be manually flagged. Eve GM center only processes about 14,000 tickets a day according to their last GM blog. - You mean characters Has anyone at anytime ever seen over 10,000 players online? Anyway - not adding to the rant, just trying to keep facts straight. 7-8k dropping to 6-7 k off peak, 24 hours a day, every day. You'd have to assume at least some of those are newbies or casuals that only play for a few hours on the weekend and maybe for an hour at a time during the week. The roll through of players suggests that there are a lot more than what shows up as connected. Logic, boys and girls, tells us that there is more to see than our little snapshots of what is happen when we're on. I understand where you are coming from but you do understand that when you have certain events like the game launching or new builds come out and you see the amount that log on you get an idea of the die hards. The die hards and forum savvy players are the ones asking for respecs - not the casuals that just try or play in between other games. You are also not taking into account the number of players who maybe on many of those hours - it isnt just a rolling number with different people passing through. The reason I highly doubt 90,000 and 2.5 million is obvious - I can constantly create new characters. Many ppl can try the game and never play again. Many die hards have multiple accounts and multiple characters. I kind of guage it by the forum activity, taking into account that the forum is only a fraction of the base, though for a game like this it is probably higher than the norm and obviously events. We will see what the numbers are come the Templar event.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 765	Posted - 2013.05.27 20:50:00 - [44] - Quote This kind of short bus poasting is why CCP should just leave be the respecs. Skilled up in something you don't need? Well **** off kid.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 403	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:01:00 - [45] - Quote OMG, what a mess of ignorant, loud, whiny, entitled little brats with big mouths and tiny brains. Some of you need big steaming mug full of STFU! Seriously, there are more important things in life than getting your respec on time. Frankly, I think we should pay CCP to hold off for a week and see how ape**** some of you ignorami go. Should be fun to watch!
Daxxis KANNAH Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:04:00 - [46] - Quote Welcome to the real New Eden - deal with it bub
ProudHowitzer The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 16	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:13:00 - [47] - Quote i would like an explanation but people dont need to keep raging on them.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:19:00 - [48] - Quote They have started the skill respecs already, they started at A, since your name starts with a T, you'll have to wait some more. It's the alphabet, stupid. also, the UK and US have a day off I believe. I don't know were CCP's CS is located, but it could have something to do with that. My money would be on the alphabet option though.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 2432	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:28:00 - [49] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: They have started the skill respecs already, they started at A, since your name starts with a T, you'll have to wait some more. It's the alphabet, stupid. also, the UK and US have a day off I believe. I don't know were CCP's CS is located, but it could have something to do with that. My money would be on the alphabet option though. 1. CCP stated that it will be on a first come first serve basis. Meaning, if I posted my petition before you did, my petition will be processed ahead of yours regardless of the fact that K comes before M. 2. Iceland is located on the 1200 Time Zone not far North of the UK. 3. We still have until the 31st of this month. If they don't give out the respecs by then, you and I can go ahead and rage on the forums together.
Karl Koekwaus Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 80	Posted - 2013.05.27 21:36:00 - [50] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: 3. We still have until the 31st of this month. If they don't give out the respecs by then, you and I can go ahead and rage on the forums together. I never rage since somehow I allocated most of my SP right were it belongs, although I do like to sit in my cave occasionally. Looking at unsuspecting passers-by.



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