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TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:44:00 -
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While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge. |
Zekain K
Expert Intervention Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:46:00 -
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Buff the TAC, it is clearly under-powered Vs these weapons. |
Aqua-Regia
Ahrendee Mercenaries
115
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:49:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Buff the TAC, it is clearly under-powered Vs these weapons. This ^ |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
13
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:49:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Buff the TAC, it is clearly under-powered Vs these weapons. Get out. |
DJINN Marauder
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
691
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:50:00 -
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SMG and pistols are fine. Imo no weapon should do more damage than the pistol (besides AV weapons and sniper)
The SMG is pretty good..not OP though... |
Eldest Dragon
D3LTA ACADEMY
19
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:55:00 -
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1st off assault imo should be about closer range anyway, I say boost the gex damage or at least lower the tac's range, the tac is like a super fast semi auto sniper wtf! And am I the only one to think assault- (frontlines you know)- means mostly close to mid range combat, further reasoning to boost the full autos and, (take the tac's rng or lower damage one)! OFC your thinking, he prob uses the gex right now, and your right I do quite often bc the price and 60 bullets in the clip, but that dosn't change the facts. When it comes to tac's your just outta luck most of the time, as far as gex's hey keep your distance, prob solved! CCP please dont nerf the gex or variants, that would be ridiculous there the real assault rifles atm, unlike the tac which can most of the time get sniped at and turn around and snipe the sniper! |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
86
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:57:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge.
You are what is wrong with gamer's AND why game companies have a hard time balancing games. They just cant listen to ppl like you. You think just because you get killed by a weapon a lot... that it's OP.
The only ppl that should offer advice are ones that HAVE ACTUALLY USED MOST OF THE WEAPONS.
Aside from that, you should look at the intended use of the weapon, it's "on paper" stats, and if they seem balanced with other weapons and their "on paper" stats. (ie: comparing range/ROF/dmg per round AND DPS/hip-fire accuracy/etc etc) |
Eldest Dragon
D3LTA ACADEMY
20
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:58:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge. You are what is wrong with gamer's AND why game companies have a hard time balancing games. They just cant listen to ppl like you. You think just because you get killed by a weapon a lot... that it's OP. The only ppl that should offer advice are ones that HAVE ACTUALLY USED MOST OF THE WEAPONS. Aside from that, you should look at the intended use of the weapon, it's "on paper" stats, and if they seem balanced with other weapons and their "on paper" stats. (ie: comparing range/ROF/dmg per round AND DPS/hip-fire accuracy/etc etc)
Thanx bud, I will be giving you a like , =) |
Jenza's Pants
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:00:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge.
SMG has an optimal range of 18-20, max of 34. Truly OP. |
Eldest Dragon
D3LTA ACADEMY
20
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:00:00 -
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Every one, like fargen and myself plz, this author's article is ridiculous, haha! =) |
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Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
89
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:01:00 -
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Eldest Dragon wrote:
Thanx bud, I will be giving you a like , =)
Thank you, kind sir! |
FeaR Ace
Ahrendee Frontlinez
81
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:16:00 -
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Zekain K wrote:Buff the TAC, it is clearly under-powered Vs these weapons.
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TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
13
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:17:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge. You are what is wrong with gamer's AND why game companies have a hard time balancing games. They just cant listen to ppl like you. You think just because you get killed by a weapon a lot... that it's OP. The only ppl that should offer advice are ones that HAVE ACTUALLY USED MOST OF THE WEAPONS. Aside from that, you should look at the intended use of the weapon, it's "on paper" stats, and if they seem balanced with other weapons and their "on paper" stats. (ie: comparing range/ROF/dmg per round AND DPS/hip-fire accuracy/etc etc) You trolling me, man? -I didn't call the GEK OP. I was using it to point out that the TAC isn't my biggest problem. -I've used all of these weapons, dickhead. -Look at any of my arguments about the TAC, and you'll see that I know exactly what the intended use of the guns are. It's not like I'm calling for a range buff on he SMG, am I? |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
92
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:21:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:Fargen Icehole wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge. You are what is wrong with gamer's AND why game companies have a hard time balancing games. They just cant listen to ppl like you. You think just because you get killed by a weapon a lot... that it's OP. The only ppl that should offer advice are ones that HAVE ACTUALLY USED MOST OF THE WEAPONS. Aside from that, you should look at the intended use of the weapon, it's "on paper" stats, and if they seem balanced with other weapons and their "on paper" stats. (ie: comparing range/ROF/dmg per round AND DPS/hip-fire accuracy/etc etc) You trolling me, man? -I didn't call the GEK OP. I was using it to point out that the TAC isn't my biggest problem. -I've used all of these weapons, dickhead. -Look at any of my arguments about the TAC, and you'll see that I know exactly what the intended use of the guns are. It's not like I'm calling for a range buff on he SMG, am I?
Apparently, you're not just bad at FPS games, but also at posting in a forum.
By mentioning the GEK, SMG, and Pistols, in your post about "several closet OP weapons going unchecked", you are IMPLYING that those weapons are also OP. Now you're just trying to back-pedal, because you realize you look like a fool. |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
15
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:34:00 -
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Fargen Icehole wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:Fargen Icehole wrote:TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge. You are what is wrong with gamer's AND why game companies have a hard time balancing games. They just cant listen to ppl like you. You think just because you get killed by a weapon a lot... that it's OP. The only ppl that should offer advice are ones that HAVE ACTUALLY USED MOST OF THE WEAPONS. Aside from that, you should look at the intended use of the weapon, it's "on paper" stats, and if they seem balanced with other weapons and their "on paper" stats. (ie: comparing range/ROF/dmg per round AND DPS/hip-fire accuracy/etc etc) You trolling me, man? -I didn't call the GEK OP. I was using it to point out that the TAC isn't my biggest problem. -I've used all of these weapons, dickhead. -Look at any of my arguments about the TAC, and you'll see that I know exactly what the intended use of the guns are. It's not like I'm calling for a range buff on he SMG, am I? Apparently, you're not just bad at FPS games, but also at posting in a forum. By mentioning the GEK, SMG, and Pistols, in your post about "several closet OP weapons going unchecked", you are IMPLYING that those weapons are also OP. Now you're just trying to back-pedal, because you realize you look like a fool. You're right, I am implying that they are OP. But guess what? I never CALLED them OP. I fear that after the next nerf wave, people will complain about these next. Are you done? |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:35:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge.
The Tac is op in the hands of the best players, its not op in the hands of the average players..
I too think there is a few weapons that are more of a threat,. but only in the hands of really good players,..
I gotta be honest, this proto/logi TacAR build is a funny joke, when the good players get bored an play with new things will wish they went back to that TAC logi,,,
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Vickers S Grunt
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
93
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:09:00 -
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i sometimes use a smg with 3 complex damage mods and a tac as sidearm |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1257
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:14:00 -
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The pistol is a skill weapon. Headshot damage one shots most suits.
Also SMGs have super close range but they were always good before last build. Good to see them returned. |
Cpt Merdock
Ninth Legion Freelance
2
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:16:00 -
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by implying..then trying to win an argument by saying "Oh well I never physically said it" Kinda ruins your argument and gives everyone here right to troll you..just saying..anyway, those pesty Militia Locus Grenades that seem to blow on contact everytime and kill me a lot are annoying...whose with me? Oh but im not saying they are over powered ;) |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4667
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:18:00 -
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Usually my number one death generator is the TAC as well... While its not good grounds to get a nerf going I would like some variety and have the TAC match frequency of most other weapons. While its expected the Plasma Rifle to top the list right now one variant shouldn't be that screwed that far ahead of the other variants.
There are a few weapons that I would like to see buffed up a bit to consider their usage but as long as the TAC remains as is why bother buffing those guns? not many folks who are using the tac now are going to switch. |
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Arcturis Vanguard
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
21
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:19:00 -
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Is this guy for real? SMG....pistol....closet OP? Balanced weapons. Quit QQing. CCP disregard this thread. |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
16
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:37:00 -
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Cpt Merdock wrote:by implying..then trying to win an argument by saying "Oh well I never physically said it" Kinda ruins your argument and gives everyone here right to troll you..just saying..anyway, those pesty Militia Locus Grenades that seem to blow on contact everytime and kill me a lot are annoying...whose with me? Oh but im not saying they are over powered ;) And I said in the very next sentence that my concern is that when the TAC nerf comes, people will start complaining about the weapons I listed (not the GEK). I wasn't even trying to argue with him, and that's not the point of this thread; I just don't put up with being bad-mouthed by strangers.
Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Is this guy for real? SMG....pistol....closet OP? Balanced weapons. Quit QQing. CCP disregard this thread. I'm not complaining. And if this thread was for CCP, it would be in the feedback section. |
lowratehitman
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
597
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:45:00 -
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They just have to adjust the distance dmg on the ar. The tac should have optimal range and dmg from a diastance than lets say the breach variation. And the breach should out dmg the tac in qcq, yet it only does on paper for some reason. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4667
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:49:00 -
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One of the other problems with the TAC might be its close quarters superiority as well and no emphasis on making shots count. |
Kyro Justice
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:00:00 -
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Acezero 44 wrote:[quote=TBdaBoss]While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge.
A scourge? I don't think me or my Thales has shot you once, sir. We are offended.
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Lowkiie
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
12
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:10:00 -
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Pfft, you TAC users are a joke. You are so caught up on getting cheap easy kills so you can be the best guy ever (Sooo cool 'cause I'm a top guy in a video game gimme a god damned break) Someone calls your weapon OP and you jump all over him. Listen they are f*cking OP. Especially with those who are turbo button using bitches. Maybe CCP should make the scope an even darker green. Let's not foget that these guys also probably use Aim Assist (First people to deny it will be immediately called a f*cking liar). All this nonsense needs to fuckin stop. THIS IS A GAME, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN WITH IT!! But you have crappy players who use cheap tactics and just want to get easy kills without a care that it's ruining it for everybody. When that happens people start to leave. When everybody leaves then all you have is yourself to shoot until the server shuts down and then you go wreck something else for people. |
D legendary hero
One-Armed Bandits Unclaimed.
15
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Usually my number one death generator is the TAC as well... While its not good grounds to get a nerf going I would like some variety and have the TAC match frequency of most other weapons. While its expected the Plasma Rifle to top the list right now one variant shouldn't be that screwed that far ahead of the other variants.
There are a few weapons that I would like to see buffed up a bit to consider their usage but as long as the TAC remains as is why bother buffing those guns? not many folks who are using the tac now are going to switch.
before uprising.... i as a heavy was killed by just about everything except nova knives. and in the kill feed you saw everything. it was truely epic battling. ppl used lazers, shotguns, mass drivers, forge guns, all types of AR, snipers, smg, pistols hell even melee i was awesome with the hmg even though i hated the 100 shield 600 armor buisness of the suit. i had fun even when i died.
but now, i only die from tac, glu and gek.
when i first started playing i got owned (2-3 matches then i started owning)! but i had so much fun cuz there was such variety and potential. id have so much fun i didn't realize i had a horrible k/d by games end. and i aid to myself "this game is great! i should try out this gun and that gun, etc."
but now (i dnt die often because im a better player now), its so annoying getting killed over and over by the same weapon, my entire team. on the kill feed it only shows teammates and enemies getting killed by glus, geks, and tacs.
something must be done to bring back the variety! |
Smoky Fingers
Red Star. EoN.
26
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Posted - 2013.05.27 07:22:00 -
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I really want to go back to using smgs but that small lag you get before firing them kills me. It was much less apparent on chromosome. |
David Spd
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:07:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:One of the other problems with the TAC might be its close quarters superiority as well and no emphasis on making shots count.
That was my higgest beef. 30 shots and 200+ in storage means you can shoot all day and never have to worry. Cut mag size in half and make capacity closer to 100 and suddenly it becomes a different creature. |
MinivanSurvivor
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:13:00 -
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TBdaBoss wrote:While everyone is busy complaining about the TAC (please stop) and the LAV's, that we have several closet OP weapons going unchecked?
First of all, I die way more from the GEK than I do from the TAC. Just getting that out of the way.
Now, no seems to have noticed that the SMGs do an unholy amount of damage. The Proto version can take down a heavy in one clip. A freaking heavy! Next, the Scrambler Pistols are obscenely powerful in close range. Even the Militia one. So, uh, discuss. What other weapons (not the TAC) do you feel are OP, but are underused/underrepresented?
P.S. I really don't know how to feel about the sniping in this game. One one hand, the rifles themselves seem pretty balanced. On the other hand, those who use them are a bloody scourge.
SMGs have cut down heavies since.... FOREVER! They literally can go head-to-head with Shotties and win if the operator is proficient in using them.
People have been complaining about how OP the GEK is for the last 2 builds if not more. Give it rest already. |
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
54
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:44:00 -
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None of the weapons you listed is as effective at so many ranges as the TAR...so no, I don't consider them an issue. TAR needs to be adjusted as a priority. |
Panther Alpha
Commando Perkone Caldari State
308
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Posted - 2013.05.27 10:51:00 -
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All weapons are OP in the right hands, and rubbish in the wrong ones.
There... that answers you question ? |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens EoN.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.27 11:46:00 -
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Lowkiie wrote:Pfft, you TAC users are a joke. You are so caught up on getting cheap easy kills so you can be the best guy ever (Sooo cool 'cause I'm a top guy in a video game gimme a god damned break) Someone calls your weapon OP and you jump all over him. Listen they are f*cking OP. Especially with those who are turbo button using bitches. Maybe CCP should make the scope an even darker green. Let's not foget that these guys also probably use Aim Assist (First people to deny it will be immediately called a f*cking liar). All this nonsense needs to fuckin stop. THIS IS A GAME, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FUN WITH IT!! But you have crappy players who use cheap tactics and just want to get easy kills without a care that it's ruining it for everybody. When that happens people start to leave. When everybody leaves then all you have is yourself to shoot until the server shuts down and then you go wreck something else for people. Show me on the doll where the TAR touched you.... |
thesupertman
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
35
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Posted - 2013.05.27 12:31:00 -
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Buff the plasma cannon and MD spash damage, buff the lasor's range, and buff the shotgun.
I smile whenever I see these in the killfeed^
I have only seen 2 lasor users......
Once these guns are buffed, we got a balanced game! |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
21
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Posted - 2013.05.27 18:19:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:One of the other problems with the TAC might be its close quarters superiority as well and no emphasis on making shots count. This. IMO, the best way to balance the TAC is to nerf the hipfire accuracy. Not longer viable in CQC, people hopefully stop crying. Other good tweaks are a small RoF reduction, and a magazine reduction to 20 rounds or so. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
403
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Posted - 2013.05.27 19:53:00 -
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We just need to make sure no one weapon is better than or equal to just about any other weapon. I don't want us to get into a nerf contest or none of us will like any of the weapons.
CCP, this is an FPS and everybody dies. Let them die for chrissakes and stop adjusting weapons because people whine about them. Adjust them when they need adjusting -- and no, tears are not a reason.
Finally, please tweak towards the end result... you don't need a sledge hammer to slowly push things into alignment... unless of course you used a sledgehammer to knock things out of alignment. I'd suggest that subtle changes over time will keep the complaints to a much lower level as people may have the ability to adjust without conscious effort. |
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