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Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
33
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:10:00 -
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im lookin for a bit of advice.
im always trying to get better. every game i play in, i do my best to improve on something. a lot of the time, i fail miserably. a lot of the time, i wreck ****.
ive tried to reach out to lance and cubsfan, but never got a response. i would like to get some conversation going about heavy tactics. i would like to get some suggestions on how to play better. some of u heavies are better than me, and some of u have been wrecked in proto or advanced gear by me in my militia gear. but i wanna get better.
i would appreciate any advice u can offer, and maybe i can do the same. keep the trolling to a minimum, plz.
btw, im also open to some squadding up to get & give pointers if anyone is interested in that. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
78
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:15:00 -
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Avoid the following: Open spaces, Locus grenades, TARs, Sea bears |
Remm Duchax
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
13
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:18:00 -
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Use Flux grenades to get rid of pesky shields. Make them come to you. Make sure you're safe when reloading. Use Assault HMG's on more open maps.
And most important! Join The Unholy Legion of Darkstar and become part of Remm's Rumble Squad! |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
3248
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:23:00 -
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Use assault rifles.
No, seriously.
Use assault rifles. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
79
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:23:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote:And most important! Join The Unholy Legion of Darkstar and become part of Remm's Rumble Squad!
I'm a pretty good heavy if I do say so myself and...... I don't think that's the most important..... if I do say so myself
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
343
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:24:00 -
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I don't recall you 'reaching out' to me but I get a ridiculous amount of mails daily so could possibly have missed it. Biggest advice I can give is to be fearless. Learn your effective range for whatever weapon you prefer and as spongly said, avoid open areas cause 90% of players use either a tac or have absolutely no skill and u will be run over.
This game is all about mob warfare so lead the push to the enemy and identify the logis on your team and make them earn their keep :) |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
97
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:51:00 -
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I'm just getting into heavy myself so not alot of experience here but, I've found the above advice to be true. My addition to the convo is try and find a logi to follow you full time amd protect them as much as possible. I've also found that if you're playing solo as a heavy in a pub match and you push forward, trying to move the line, most of the blueberries won't follow no matter what space you've just secured. I've died so many times waiting for them to catch up I'm beginning to suspect I'm being overly optimistic... |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
79
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Posted - 2013.05.27 00:54:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:I don't recall you 'reaching out' to me but I get a ridiculous amount of mails daily so could possibly have missed it. Biggest advice I can give is to be fearless. Learn your effective range for whatever weapon you prefer and as spongly said, avoid open areas cause 90% of players use either a tac or have absolutely no skill and u will be run over.
This game is all about mob warfare so lead the push to the enemy and identify the logis on your team and make them earn their keep :)
You forgot to mention the sea bears |
N1ck Comeau
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
386
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Posted - 2013.05.27 01:00:00 -
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Use good gear.
Avoid running long distances.
Don't p*ssy out, See that group of 5 guys? Call them out wait for teamamtes to come closer for support, come in kill everybody while they are distracted by your team, or kill them when they are distracted by you. (Easy pickings for teammates to weaken them making them easy to kill).
Find a repper and stay with him.
Use Lavs off spawn in Skirmish and Domination. Running takes way too long.
Put some skill points into forge gun. Being good at AV is helpful to your team.
avoid being with your team unless your all really good or all Reppers, this will draw attention to you, and the biggest guy is always the first target.
You're not unstoppable but 1v1 or even 1v2 you 99% win.
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Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
33
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:37:00 -
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these are all really good suggestions, and i actually do a lot of it.
cubsfan, yeah, i had sent u a message a few weeks ago. i thawt u ignowed me :(
no but seriously. the message was me asking if i could sqd up with u 1v1 and pick ure brain for a few minutes. |
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Akhtar Rhise
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:46:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Use good gear.
Avoid running long distances.
Don't p*ssy out, See that group of 5 guys? Call them out wait for teamamtes to come closer for support, come in kill everybody while they are distracted by your team, or kill them when they are distracted by you. (Easy pickings for teammates to weaken them making them easy to kill).
Find a repper and stay with him.
Use Lavs off spawn in Skirmish and Domination. Running takes way too long.
Put some skill points into forge gun. Being good at AV is helpful to your team.
avoid being with your team unless your all really good or all Reppers, this will draw attention to you, and the biggest guy is always the first target.
You're not unstoppable but 1v1 or even 1v2 you 99% win.
Nick is trouble. Listen to him. |
THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY
102
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Posted - 2013.05.27 04:55:00 -
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Become friends with a badass prpto logi who can pump upto 105HP/s into your armour. :)
PROTOLOGIBRO POWAH! |
Boomer Dues Mortis
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
106
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:05:00 -
[13] - Quote
Saw that no one posted it so my advice would be to strafe back and forth. Usually other heavies just stand there and they are very easy to gun down. |
TBdaBoss
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. ROFL BROS
13
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:08:00 -
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-Stay in tight areas (duh)
-Try to take on 1 or 2 people at a time. (but you can bully entire squads yourself if you are smart)
-Defend, don't attack. You can make full squads back the hell up
-Bully everything. Nothing can take a good heavy. Intimidation alone can keep entire squads off a position
-Pick up a forge gun and start ruining those LAVs
-Grab a Logi buddy and you're nigh unstoppable |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
325
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:22:00 -
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I like using my heavy with a LLAV. For those dodgy players I simply get out of the car and mow them down. Other than that I don't have much experience as a heavy but will do because I'm respeccing full heavy because I love how the HMG can actually get me some kills (currently using the crappy assault SR). The above guys mentioned very good tactics so maybe we could talk about fittings? I'm aiming to use the sentinel dropsuit for the extra low slot. What about you? |
SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:30:00 -
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A heavy can't count on anyone. Ambush - if you can't Murder Taxi because of AV - then just get used to kill assists and staying next to blue blobs. We're pretty much useless without a forge gun or squad. CQC areas we still dominate - but it's all relative to your play style.
The most effective way to use heavies in pubs is go skirm and camp and objective you see the other team wants and learn choke points. We can bring down people quick who don't realize that objective has a dedicated heavy. And even if they do the nodes were almost made for us to use as great terrain advantage. I suggest equipping flux nades as they'll even help you bring down most LAV's quick and against infantry HMG is killer vs armor.
Get the Saga - it's less then 100,000 SP to aquire, put 1 shield extender, 2 PG upgrades, and a scanner. Always keep it near your objective. Al you need to do is hop on it for a second and activate scan to know where ppl are coming from - it comes back often to use too. IF you get into trouble it's also a great get a way vehicle or a vehicle you can use to close distance against pros who know how to hit an objective.
We're the hardest class to use in pubs - but we're necessary for PC. Keep strong. |
Arcturis Vanguard
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
21
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Posted - 2013.05.27 05:56:00 -
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Some good advice above.
First of all I want it known that I don't run damage mods with my HMG. Forge gun is another story. With the new parameters of the heavy, I find myself with my forge in the start of matches. Removing installations is high priority. For multiple reasons. I'm always on the look out for tanks and drops. Once everything is removed, rejoining sqd with HMG becomes important but always go with the flow of battle.
Strafing will keep you alive longer then you'll realize.
Don't ever push forward without a full clip and flux.
Also as a heavy you need to be aware of your surroundings. Watch your corners and be thinking ahead. Where could someone infiltrate and flank around to your blind side. Survival is out thinking your opponent.
By now you will have noticed the hoppers. Scout will like to jump to your side/behind. So will other classes. Be ready for it and try to anticipate the jump. I will jump in the opposite direction and arc my lead. Usually by the time they hit the ground, they will be dead or very close.
Suit build is also important.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1972
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:13:00 -
[18] - Quote
sorry man, when you wanted to run with me I was just not feeling DUST... like I would hit the cap and wait till next week to do the same.
Haven't played in 2 weeks for personal reasons.
There are different types of heavies out there, and you need to find your playing style. As everyone points out, avoid open areas... it might sound like a derp suggestion, but you'll be surprised at how much heavies make this error.
Map knowledge is key to surviving encounters...aka, always have an escape route in mind lol.
Keep in mind Pub fits SHOULD be different to competitive fits....unless you're going ballsout in every pub game :P
All this being said and all the advice people give, it's just about finding what works for you, trying new things, new approaches to combat, knowing when to push, when to hide, when to chase the kill, or focus on the objective instead. It's instinct, and being a situational class, our choices affects us more than others cuz we can't simply jump over a rail and run off.
Fortune favors the brave though, so you'll only get those "HOLY ****!" moments by getting yourself in the perfect position. Sometimes it works out, you get beasted
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
82
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:15:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:like I would hit the cap and wait till next week to do the same.
That's exactly how I've felt |
Schalac 17
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
172
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:19:00 -
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Both of those players also have lots of SP built up and run with really good squad mates. With my 2.8 million SP character I will be top 5 in just about every match I play because when I am operating in a group the whole group does better, which in turn lets me operate better. That is what you should focus on finding a group that supports your playstyle and get in with them. DUST is not a solo game and while this seems clich+¬, it really isn't. Sure you will meet those guys and get dominated from time to time that have millions more SPs than you do, but on average 6 people with lesser SP will be more effective than a bunch of random raspberries with lots of SP.
Eventually though, you will have millions and millions of SP as well and once you reach the cap in your class, playing with the same people and learning how you operate as a unit will be much more beneficial than latching onto another player in your class and trying to be like them. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4668
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Posted - 2013.05.27 06:21:00 -
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The use of cover and moving about smartly needs to be the focus of self sanity.
Forcing the opponents to be in an inferior position should be noble and just goals of a heavy suit trying to kill as many things as possible. While this normally means putting yourself in a superior position this is not always possible and you have to make due. |
Jenova's Witness
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:13:00 -
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First and foremost, you can't play a heavy like you used to in Chrome. When they said, defender, they meant defender. Get a squad mate to leave behind a few nanohives or hug a supply depot. Find a nice choke point where the enemy has to go through you to get to where they're going and collect kills. Positioning is absolutely key! Don't be afraid to use complex plates. You're going to be slower than molasses, but that extra survivability matters when you can mow down 3-5 guys without having to cower in a corner. Also, if possible, find a good logi to play with on the regular. Having someone around to repair you could mean the difference between 18-0 and 1-9 games.
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Doran Gallen
Empire Ballistic Assault Force
2
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Posted - 2013.05.27 09:36:00 -
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Use and AVOID flux grenades.
Also,scrambler rifles. Scrambler rifles solve everything. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
35
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:53:00 -
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holy ****, guys. thats some great advice!!
dont get me wrong, im hardly a newbie. im at 7.3 mil SP and have been rolling as heavy the entire time, and have been in dust since closed beta. (although i only played off and on then)
its just that i find myself missing the obvious sometimes. and that is unacceptable with my mindset of "never stop getting better"
@lance - yeah, i kno dood. im still hoping u wouldnt mind grouping up sometime, 1v1.
@everyone else: thx for posting and giving me these tips. i hope everyone who posted learned something from someone else while they were at it.
honestly, when i play, i wait for my comrades to drop an uplink b4 i spawn so i dont have to traverse the wild frontier. i run militia gear almost exclusively. i strafe (which is NOT easy to do as a heavy) i aim at faces, i crouch, i do actually find choke points, i do decently against those pesky scouts. sometimes tho......depending on the map or lack of good team mates.....i get absolutely smoked. i do have some good logis to play with, but some of them arent always on. and i am guilty of getting excited and bullrushing ahead without thinking lol
i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:12:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:holy ****, guys. thats some great advice!!
dont get me wrong, im hardly a newbie. im at 7.3 mil SP and have been rolling as heavy the entire time, and have been in dust since closed beta. (although i only played off and on then)
its just that i find myself missing the obvious sometimes. and that is unacceptable with my mindset of "never stop getting better"
@lance - yeah, i kno dood. im still hoping u wouldnt mind grouping up sometime, 1v1.
@everyone else: thx for posting and giving me these tips. i hope everyone who posted learned something from someone else while they were at it.
honestly, when i play, i wait for my comrades to drop an uplink b4 i spawn so i dont have to traverse the wild frontier. i run militia gear almost exclusively. i strafe (which is NOT easy to do as a heavy) i aim at faces, i crouch, i do actually find choke points, i do decently against those pesky scouts. sometimes tho......depending on the map or lack of good team mates.....i get absolutely smoked. i do have some good logis to play with, but some of them arent always on. and i am guilty of getting excited and bullrushing ahead without thinking lol
i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
The sentinel suit is the joke of the heavy community. Utterly worthless and anyone who goes full proto in it deserves to be called a bad heavy.
I want to also remind you on how to use HMG - it has a slow turning speed but using R1 to aim makes a difference to your DPS. The trick is aim in front of there movements then using R1 for just a moment to get in some extra damage - never use it for more then a few moments. Strafing - as pointless as it seems for us - is still vital to making sure every bullet doesn't land on us. Every little bit helps in the competitive field. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
35
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:16:00 -
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SoTah Pawp wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:holy ****, guys. thats some great advice!!
dont get me wrong, im hardly a newbie. im at 7.3 mil SP and have been rolling as heavy the entire time, and have been in dust since closed beta. (although i only played off and on then)
its just that i find myself missing the obvious sometimes. and that is unacceptable with my mindset of "never stop getting better"
@lance - yeah, i kno dood. im still hoping u wouldnt mind grouping up sometime, 1v1.
@everyone else: thx for posting and giving me these tips. i hope everyone who posted learned something from someone else while they were at it.
honestly, when i play, i wait for my comrades to drop an uplink b4 i spawn so i dont have to traverse the wild frontier. i run militia gear almost exclusively. i strafe (which is NOT easy to do as a heavy) i aim at faces, i crouch, i do actually find choke points, i do decently against those pesky scouts. sometimes tho......depending on the map or lack of good team mates.....i get absolutely smoked. i do have some good logis to play with, but some of them arent always on. and i am guilty of getting excited and bullrushing ahead without thinking lol
i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
The sentinel suit is the joke of the heavy community. Utterly worthless and anyone who goes full proto in it deserves to be called a bad heavy. I want to also remind you on how to use HMG - it has a slow turning speed but using R1 to aim makes a difference to your DPS. The trick is aim in front of there movements then using R1 for just a moment to get in some extra damage - never use it for more then a few moments. Strafing - as pointless as it seems for us - is still vital to making sure every bullet doesn't land on us. Every little bit helps in the competitive field.
and thats why im glad im getting a respec :D
and everything else u said.....i do. even press R1 to aim
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SoTah Pawp
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:21:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:holy ****, guys. thats some great advice!!
dont get me wrong, im hardly a newbie. im at 7.3 mil SP and have been rolling as heavy the entire time, and have been in dust since closed beta. (although i only played off and on then)
its just that i find myself missing the obvious sometimes. and that is unacceptable with my mindset of "never stop getting better"
@lance - yeah, i kno dood. im still hoping u wouldnt mind grouping up sometime, 1v1.
@everyone else: thx for posting and giving me these tips. i hope everyone who posted learned something from someone else while they were at it.
honestly, when i play, i wait for my comrades to drop an uplink b4 i spawn so i dont have to traverse the wild frontier. i run militia gear almost exclusively. i strafe (which is NOT easy to do as a heavy) i aim at faces, i crouch, i do actually find choke points, i do decently against those pesky scouts. sometimes tho......depending on the map or lack of good team mates.....i get absolutely smoked. i do have some good logis to play with, but some of them arent always on. and i am guilty of getting excited and bullrushing ahead without thinking lol
i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
The sentinel suit is the joke of the heavy community. Utterly worthless and anyone who goes full proto in it deserves to be called a bad heavy. I want to also remind you on how to use HMG - it has a slow turning speed but using R1 to aim makes a difference to your DPS. The trick is aim in front of there movements then using R1 for just a moment to get in some extra damage - never use it for more then a few moments. Strafing - as pointless as it seems for us - is still vital to making sure every bullet doesn't land on us. Every little bit helps in the competitive field. and thats why im glad im getting a respec :D and everything else u said.....i do. even press R1 to aim Lol ops. Too lazy to go back and edit. Deal with it ;)
Heavies have the best community in dust with the best rivalries. Will look forward to seeing you in PC someday. So very few of us stuck in it all the way and a lot of corps are paying for there poor judgement. No one holds an objective like we do. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
35
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:28:00 -
[28] - Quote
SoTah Pawp wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:SoTah Pawp wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:holy ****, guys. thats some great advice!!
dont get me wrong, im hardly a newbie. im at 7.3 mil SP and have been rolling as heavy the entire time, and have been in dust since closed beta. (although i only played off and on then)
its just that i find myself missing the obvious sometimes. and that is unacceptable with my mindset of "never stop getting better"
@lance - yeah, i kno dood. im still hoping u wouldnt mind grouping up sometime, 1v1.
@everyone else: thx for posting and giving me these tips. i hope everyone who posted learned something from someone else while they were at it.
honestly, when i play, i wait for my comrades to drop an uplink b4 i spawn so i dont have to traverse the wild frontier. i run militia gear almost exclusively. i strafe (which is NOT easy to do as a heavy) i aim at faces, i crouch, i do actually find choke points, i do decently against those pesky scouts. sometimes tho......depending on the map or lack of good team mates.....i get absolutely smoked. i do have some good logis to play with, but some of them arent always on. and i am guilty of getting excited and bullrushing ahead without thinking lol
i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
The sentinel suit is the joke of the heavy community. Utterly worthless and anyone who goes full proto in it deserves to be called a bad heavy. I want to also remind you on how to use HMG - it has a slow turning speed but using R1 to aim makes a difference to your DPS. The trick is aim in front of there movements then using R1 for just a moment to get in some extra damage - never use it for more then a few moments. Strafing - as pointless as it seems for us - is still vital to making sure every bullet doesn't land on us. Every little bit helps in the competitive field. and thats why im glad im getting a respec :D and everything else u said.....i do. even press R1 to aim Lol ops. Too lazy to go back and edit. Deal with it ;) Heavies have the best community in dust with the best rivalries. Will look forward to seeing you in PC someday. So very few of us stuck in it all the way and a lot of corps are paying for there poor judgement. No one holds an objective like we do.
i agree. especially after seeing us all on here after the uprising build came out lol. we were up in arms over that ish.
currently, my corp is biding our time, grinding and training. itll b a while b4 u see superhero in PC. but when u do....... ;)
thx again for posting
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
110
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Posted - 2013.05.27 16:36:00 -
[29] - Quote
Remm Duchax wrote:Make them come to you.
But not to close! If they get within 15 meters and they are not almost dead, you are likely to get outmaneuvered and mercilessly PWND!
I have had shotty assaults and scouts jump over my head and headshot me in mid air.
AR guys strafe circles around you in CQC, stopping behind you to shoot you in the dome! |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
35
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Posted - 2013.05.27 20:00:00 -
[30] - Quote
ehh
i dont have a prob with ppl getting close usually. (unless theyre scouts) i just give them the ol left hook
*BLAM* |
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Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
35
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Posted - 2013.05.28 17:39:00 -
[31] - Quote
bumpety....wanna keep this active...jus cause
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Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
36
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:17:00 -
[32] - Quote
so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
263
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:26:00 -
[33] - Quote
Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
37
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:33:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there.
huh? u mean use the smg as primary? dude, the smg doesnt have that much more range, if any, than the HMG
*hi btw. did someone get in contact with u? |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:36:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there. huh? u mean use the smg as primary? dude, the smg doesnt have that much more range, if any, than the HMG *hi btw. did someone get in contact with u?
No never |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:46:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there. huh? u mean use the smg as primary? dude, the smg doesnt have that much more range, if any, than the HMG *hi btw. did someone get in contact with u?
Iam a forge gunner so i got some Toxin skill. seems to run faster. its way more accurate than the HMG. try it. Back in chrome i perforated many a Heavy with the toxin.
havnt received anything yet. we had a busy day we just absorbed two smaller corps. tons of mail. plus i was grinding for about 12 hours. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:50:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there. huh? u mean use the smg as primary? dude, the smg doesnt have that much more range, if any, than the HMG *hi btw. did someone get in contact with u? Iam a forge gunner so i got some Toxin skill. seems to run faster. its way more accurate than the HMG. try it. Back in chrome i perforated many a Heavy with the toxin. havnt received anything yet. we had a busy day we just absorbed two smaller corps. tons of mail. plus i was grinding for about 12 hours.
yeah, i noticed u were on for a good while. and i KNOW ure a frickin forge gunner......u killed me a few times with it. alright, thx for the feedback. ill give the toxin a try when i put some more sp into smg. im not sure ill go full FG tho.....dont like using them too much.
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xIc0n1k
Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.06.10 05:50:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:im lookin for a bit of advice.
im always trying to get better. every game i play in, i do my best to improve on something. a lot of the time, i fail miserably. a lot of the time, i wreck ****.
ive tried to reach out to lance and cubsfan, but never got a response. i would like to get some conversation going about heavy tactics. i would like to get some suggestions on how to play better. some of u heavies are better than me, and some of u have been wrecked in proto or advanced gear by me in my militia gear. but i wanna get better.
i would appreciate any advice u can offer, and maybe i can do the same. keep the trolling to a minimum, plz.
btw, im also open to some squadding up to get & give pointers if anyone is interested in that.
Super...GTFO! Kthnxpal |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:01:00 -
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xIc0n1k wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:im lookin for a bit of advice.
im always trying to get better. every game i play in, i do my best to improve on something. a lot of the time, i fail miserably. a lot of the time, i wreck ****.
ive tried to reach out to lance and cubsfan, but never got a response. i would like to get some conversation going about heavy tactics. i would like to get some suggestions on how to play better. some of u heavies are better than me, and some of u have been wrecked in proto or advanced gear by me in my militia gear. but i wanna get better.
i would appreciate any advice u can offer, and maybe i can do the same. keep the trolling to a minimum, plz.
btw, im also open to some squadding up to get & give pointers if anyone is interested in that. Super...GTFO! Kthnxpal
trolling at its finest |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
263
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:08:00 -
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Always like to see another forge gunner out there. if you do, get the assault. good hunting |
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SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.06.10 06:33:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:Darken-Sol wrote:Superhero Rawdon wrote:so, now i see myself getting my ass handed to me on a almost daily basis.
i run my militia gear and im always going against murder taxis (i know how to counter them, but theyre still a pain in the ass) and lots of try-hards in proto gear.
my flux grenades + hmg + armor repairer serve me well, but manoman is it getting harder and harder to keep enjoying the game.
the ADV heavy dropsuit is sweet @28k. its like the old type b. try your toxin first then whip out that big old HMG. dont run the HMG often but this works well. you can close the gap and have more hp when you get there. huh? u mean use the smg as primary? dude, the smg doesnt have that much more range, if any, than the HMG *hi btw. did someone get in contact with u? Iam a forge gunner so i got some Toxin skill. seems to run faster. its way more accurate than the HMG. try it. Back in chrome i perforated many a Heavy with the toxin. havnt received anything yet. we had a busy day we just absorbed two smaller corps. tons of mail. plus i was grinding for about 12 hours. yeah, i noticed u were on for a good while. and i KNOW ure a frickin forge gunner......u killed me a few times with it. alright, thx for the feedback. ill give the toxin a try when i put some more sp into smg. im not sure ill go full FG tho.....dont like using them too much. you dont need SP into SMG to make toxin any good - it just is. I haven't put a point into it and I get plenty of kills.
Also think of saving 500,000 SP and getting Logi-LAV - murder taxi was never such fun ;) |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
98
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Posted - 2013.06.10 07:51:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:There are different types of heavies out there, and you need to find your playing style. This! Never a greater truism in the Eve Online universe.
Many thanks to you Rawdon for starting the post. There's a little nugget of golden HMG technique in this thread.
When playing solo Death Race 514 has been allot of fun. Ishukone FG, Toxin SMG, Flux, and an Ishukone Watch LAV (militia BPOs for Shld-Booster, 2x Shld Res Amps, 2x CPU enhancers, best $7.20 of AUR I have ever spent). Just cruising the maps for turrets, tanks, snipers, and other drivers taking part in the Race. Occasional roadkill attempts or dismounting when a cluster of blues are fighting some reds (especially if the red have been looking away from my position the whole time). If a good parking spot is available I'll climb a latter to counter snipe or provide some artillery support for blues attacking a position, trying to never linger around.
I'm strongly thinking of following the path of others for the logistics LAV. The three skills only cost a total of 317,140 Skill Points. Any infantry weapon operation skill from 0 to 5 is around 620,000 and the other vehicle related skills (upgrades/turrets) have scandalously low training multipliers compared to the Dropsuit counterparts. CCP is practically giving them away. For which I say, "thank you." |
PAsReaver
G I A N T EoN.
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:21:00 -
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[/quote] The sentinel suit is the joke of the heavy community. Utterly worthless and anyone who goes full proto in it deserves to be called a bad heavy.
I want to also remind you on how to use HMG - it has a slow turning speed but using R1 to aim makes a difference to your DPS. The trick is aim in front of there movements then using R1 for just a moment to get in some extra damage - never use it for more then a few moments. Strafing - as pointless as it seems for us - is still vital to making sure every bullet doesn't land on us. Every little bit helps in the competitive field.[/quote]
Wait im a little confused because i specialized into sentinal im a bad heavy????? And here i thought i was doing good. Must have been playing heavy wrong the whole time. But then again i like beging able to buy 50 fits for less then a mill isk then goin back out on the battle feild and killing everything i see. |
SoTa PoP
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Posted - 2013.06.10 08:54:00 -
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Maybe saying bad was a tad much - you've just wasted a lot of SP is all |
Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.06.10 09:00:00 -
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Superhero Rawdon wrote: i dont use any modules except shield extender & recharger, and armor plates & repairer. im currently able to use complex repairer & recharger, but only advanced plates & extenders. i use the std smg as my sidearm, and was actually considering going into flux grenades (it dawned on me only recently that that might b a good idea. thats wut im talking about when i say i sometimes 'miss the obvious')
just a side question, btw.......wtf is the difference, if any, between the basic suits and sentinel? and if there is none (besides module slots) then wuts the point of having them? ive seen no difference other than how the slots are placed, so i was wondering if i missed something.
You may want to consider dropping the extender and recharger for two complex damage mods, about 18% gain with stacking penalty. In my experience with the heavy the best defense is a strong offence. Also if you haven't yet invested the SP to get HMG proficiency V, that extra 15% makes a hell of a difference. Especially considering how passive vs mods are multiplied which is for example.
Boundless HMG: 19.8+ù1.15 = 22.77+ù1.18 = 26.86
On the low end modules I use 2x kinetic catalyzers and a Rep module, or one of each on ADV. I do have fits with up to two enhanced plate's for defending null cannon's with a dedicated logi in PC, However I find much more success with no plates and kin cats in pub games.
As for the Sentinel vs Heavy there is a difference beyond just the module layout which is the Sentinel role bonus which in my opinion is absolutely worthless unless you use laser rifles, and the reload reduction is negligible considering the SP cost. You could create some interesting fits with 4 lows such as a track star Heavy or a pile of armor so thick you might as well be a turret emplacement. Despite those possibilities I could never give up my two complex damage mods. |
Superhero Rawdon
Bloodwolves Battalion
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Posted - 2013.06.10 14:28:00 -
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[/quote] you dont need SP into SMG to make toxin any good - it just is. I haven't put a point into it and I get plenty of kills.
Also think of saving 500,000 SP and getting Logi-LAV - murder taxi was never such fun ;)[/quote]
wut i meant was, im not sure if i want to invest MORE sp into smgs or not. i use the basic and it serves me well when i need to pull it out. im at 8.2 mil sp, and im focused on my armor & shields atm.
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Rupture Reaperson
Deadly Blue Dots RISE of LEGION
178
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Posted - 2013.06.10 15:07:00 -
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Remm Duchax wrote: Make them come to you.
This |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.06.10 16:09:00 -
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Damage tanker here... ie. double complex dmg mods.
With the use of flux grenades, this becomes increasingly effective. Very capable at taking out entire squads without letting go of the trigger (prob the most satasfying thing there is).
Command an enguagement. Whoever has the most presance helps dictate what the other does. |
Superhero Rawdon
Chaotic-Intent
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Posted - 2013.07.03 17:11:00 -
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BUUUUUUUUUUUmp |
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